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    Successful Install on Watchguard Firebox X700!

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    • V
      Valhalla1
      last edited by

      thanks for those model #'s gives me some stuff to look for

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        David_W
        last edited by

        It may be that the cheapest way ahead is to get a good brand 8 port web managed (or L2 managed) switch and hook that up to the rest of your network.

        As a data point, I'm using ZyXEL level 2 switches in my very large home office network; at the moment, I've got two GS-2024 switches, which are linked by fibre. They're not HP, though they're little more than a third of the price of HP - around £350 as opposed to nearly £900 for an L2 managed 24 Gigabit port HP Procurve. There's a few rough edges, but they do work OK. I've had a fan failure which resulted in an RMA, also I had two DoA 1000BASE-SX GBICs (misshapen latch on one, no link on the other), but things have been OK since.

        The biggest rough edge I know of is that there's no support for port trunking in the STP implementation; with HP you can set STP parameters for the trunk. ZyXEL doesn't support STP for trunks, though I hope it will be added in a future firmware version. That problem aside, the 3.80 firmware for the Dimension range is pretty feature rich, with new features in 3.80 including SNMPv3.

        There's some new ES-2024 switches on eBay right now for just under $200 - these are 24 port Level 2 managed 10/100 plus 2 port 10/100/1000 copper or SFP devices. I suspect that's more ports than you want or could use, and I expect if you're spending that money you'd rather have fewer ports that are Gigabit. Overall, I'd expect ZyXEL to be a minority brand for switches in the US, much as their DSL routers are more common, but it's another direction that you could look in.

        I have no idea about the "Watchguard problem" on these switches; my production firewall is a Dell PowerEdge R200.

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          Krisstian
          last edited by

          someone asked for pictures… this is an Firebox x700

          ![DSC_0030 (Medium).JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/DSC_0030 (Medium).JPG)
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          ![DSC_0045 (Medium).JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/DSC_0045 (Medium).JPG)
          ![DSC_0045 (Medium).JPG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/DSC_0045 (Medium).JPG_thumb)
          ![DSC_0046 (Medium).JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/DSC_0046 (Medium).JPG)
          ![DSC_0046 (Medium).JPG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/DSC_0046 (Medium).JPG_thumb)

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          • S
            Sifter
            last edited by

            Has anyone tried to replace the crypto mini-pci card with a wifi mini-pci card?

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            • S
              Sifter
              last edited by

              So are most of you taking the HD tray out completely?  Do you know where to get a HD that fits in the bracket and slides into place using the connector?

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                Valhalla1
                last edited by

                @Sifter:

                So are most of you taking the HD tray out completely?  Do you know where to get a HD that fits in the bracket and slides into place using the connector?

                my hard drive is in the tray, which if I recall is kind of loose inside there but I had to use it, otherwise the hard drive would just be laying on the motherboard directly, and this caused a short of some kind and it wouldn't power up
                a regular sized ide hard drive might fit properly in the removeable cage, the laptop ones are obv. too small

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                  Sifter
                  last edited by

                  Ive gone ahead and purchased a 4gig hitachi microdrive.  Id like to use this in the x700.  Can I do a full install to the microdrive from my other computer, then slide it into the cf slot in the x700?

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                    moep
                    last edited by

                    I replaced our Firebox X500 for pfsense a few months ago and never noticed this thread.
                    Selling the box isn't worth it so I ripped into it and cleaned it today.

                    Now I'm wondering if anyone has tried installing a 1024 MB PC-133 stick in it?
                    I'd like to run a couple of packages on the box (squid in particular, i guess it's too weak for snort ) so the more RAM the better I'd guess.

                    Also, what's the smartest solution when it comes to the installation?
                    I think I'll go with the "connect cdrom-drive and do the installation via serial console"-route.
                    And I'm definitely going to put a harddrive in there, should I get rid of the CF card and do the full installation on the HD or install the base system on a CF and while leaving all busy partitions on the HD?

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                      Valhalla1
                      last edited by

                      @moep:

                      I replaced our Firebox X500 for pfsense a few months ago and never noticed this thread.
                      Selling the box isn't worth it so I ripped into it and cleaned it today.

                      Now I'm wondering if anyone has tried installing a 1024 MB PC-133 stick in it?
                      I'd like to run a couple of packages on the box (squid in particular, i guess it's too weak for snort ) so the more RAM the better I'd guess.

                      Also, what's the smartest solution when it comes to the installation?
                      I think I'll go with the "connect cdrom-drive and do the installation via serial console"-route.
                      And I'm definitely going to put a harddrive in there, should I get rid of the CF card and do the full installation on the HD or install the base system on a CF and while leaving all busy partitions on the HD?

                      not sure anyones reporting attempting a cdrom install,  it might have problems recognizing or booting from a cdrom unless you can get into the motherboard BIOS config, but good luck.  You can always install the system on another machine and swap the disk out

                      here's a question, I just got around to installing phpsysinfo on my Firebox x500 and noticed the temperature sensors seem outragous, is this false info or is something inside my box about to spontaneously combust?  This seemingly hasn't caused any problems but doesn't look pretty

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                        moep
                        last edited by

                        I've finished the installation on my Firebox now, went a different route:

                        Attached the notebook-disk to my Notebook via an IDE-USB adapter, fired up VMware Fusion, used the .iso and installed pfsense to the disk via vmware. It worked fine.

                        The box will boot with a doublesided 1024 MB PC-133 stick but only 512 MB are recognized.

                        And well, keep an eye out for the completely open PSU while working in there. I was stupid enough to accidentally touch a 220V part while swapping the HDD with the box plugged in. Fun, fun.:D

                        @ Valhalla1: 127° is a default temperature for sensors as far as I remember. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless the temperature actually fluctuates over 120°C.

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                          Sifter
                          last edited by

                          Anyone have a good way of removing the heatsink/fan from the Celeron chip that is stock?  I have a PIII 1.4 chip that Id like to throw in, but the heatsink seems bonded pretty tight to the existing celeron.

                          Idea's are welcomed.

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                            moep
                            last edited by

                            My X500 only has liquid thermal compound between the CPU and HSF — no “baked in” thermal pad or anything like it.
                            All it takes is a slight twist and the HSF will come off.
                            If your’s sticks to the CPU, try running the firebox so the thermal compound heats up and gets soft. Then lift it off without applying excessive force.

                            If you have trouble opening the clip, see the picture for how it works. Be careful not to break the little tabs on the socket though.

                            IMG_5223.jpg
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                              familyguy
                              last edited by

                              @Valhalla1:

                              How are you generating this system info page?  It seems a LOT more informative than the default.  Is that some special add-on?

                              Best,

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                              • jahonixJ
                                jahonix
                                last edited by

                                That's a package called 'phpSysInfo'.
                                You can install it from  System|Packages  if you are on a full install.

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                                  familyguy
                                  last edited by

                                  @jahonix:

                                  That's a package called 'phpSysInfo'.
                                  You can install it from  System|Packages  if you are on a full install.

                                  Ah.  It doesn't appear to be available for the 1.2.1-snapshots.

                                  Best,

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                                    Sifter
                                    last edited by

                                    @moep:

                                    My X500 only has liquid thermal compound between the CPU and HSF — no “baked in” thermal pad or anything like it.
                                    All it takes is a slight twist and the HSF will come off.
                                    If your’s sticks to the CPU, try running the firebox so the thermal compound heats up and gets soft. Then lift it off without applying excessive force.

                                    If you have trouble opening the clip, see the picture for how it works. Be careful not to break the little tabs on the socket though.

                                    Worked like a charm, thank you.

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                                      emigrating
                                      last edited by

                                      @Sifter:

                                      It looks like the mini pci slot could be used for a wifi card, so you could choose if you wanted a vpn card or wifi card in that slot.  Granted, both have to be recognized by pfsense.

                                      So has anyone tried sticking a wifi card in there? If not, what's a generally accepted card for FreeBSD which I could try?

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                                        Sifter
                                        last edited by

                                        @emigrating:

                                        @Sifter:

                                        It looks like the mini pci slot could be used for a wifi card, so you could choose if you wanted a vpn card or wifi card in that slot.  Granted, both have to be recognized by pfsense.

                                        So has anyone tried sticking a wifi card in there? If not, what's a generally accepted card for FreeBSD which I could try?

                                        I havent tried it yet, but I do have one at home.  I finally received my hitachi 4gig microdrive, so I can now install pfsense on the thing and then boot my x700.  Hopefully Ill have time later this week.

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                                          emigrating
                                          last edited by

                                          @Sifter:

                                          I havent tried it yet, but I do have one at home.  I finally received my hitachi 4gig microdrive, so I can now install pfsense on the thing and then boot my x700.  Hopefully Ill have time later this week.

                                          Cool. Do keep us updated.

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                                            Sifter
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok below is my screen from the serial cable.  I ordered a Hitachi 4gig microdrive off ebay, and this morning did a full install to it via a bootable cdrom on another machine.  I had a usb-cf card reader that was attached to the computer.  After it got done installing, I took it out and slid it into the firebox cf slot.

                                            Will ufs:ad0 be my microdrive?

                                            Copyright © 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.                                           
                                            Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994                                                                       
                                                    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.                                                                         
                                            FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.                                                           
                                            FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p11 #0: Sun Feb 24 16:32:58 EST 2008                                                       
                                                sullrich@builder6.pfsense.com:/usr/obj.pfSense/usr/src/sys/pfSense.6                                                                       
                                            Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0                                                 
                                            CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - S         1400MHz (1403.19-MHz 686-class CPU)

                                            Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b4  Stepping = 4                                                   
                                              Features=0x383f9ff<fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,p   =""  <br="">T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>                     
                                            real memory  = 268435456 (256 MB)                                 
                                            avail memory = 253263872 (241 MB)                                 
                                            wlan: mac acl policy registered                               
                                            kbd1 at kbdmux0               
                                            ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)                                                                         
                                            cpu0 on motherboard                   
                                            pcib0: <intel 82815="" (i815="" gmch)="" host="" to="" hub="" bridge="">pcibus 0 on motherboard                                                                           
                                            pir0: <pci 11="" interrupt="" routing="" table:="" entries="">on motherboard                                                             
                                            $PIR: Using invalid BIOS IRQ 9 from 2.13.INTA for link 0x63                                                           
                                            pci0: <pci bus="">on pcib0                       
                                            pcib1: <pcibios pci-pci="" bridge="">at device 30.0 on pci0                                                     
                                            pci2: <pci bus="">on pcib1                       
                                            pci2: <unknown>at device 6.0 (no driver attached)                                                 
                                            re0: <realtek 10="" 8139c+="" 100basetx="">port 0xd500-0xd5ff mem 0xefefa000-0xefefa1ff                                                                               
                                            irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci2                           
                                            miibus0: <mii bus="">on re0                         
                                            rlphy0: <realtek internal="" media="" interface="">on miibus0                                                     
                                            rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto                                                             
                                            re0: Ethernet address: 00:90:7f:31:0e:f2                                       
                                            re0: [FAST]           
                                            re1: <realtek 10="" 8139c+="" 100basetx="">port 0xd600-0xd6ff mem 0xefefb000-0xefefb1ff                                                                               
                                            irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci2                           
                                            miibus1: <mii bus="">on re1                         
                                            rlphy1: <realtek internal="" media="" interface="">on miibus1                                                     
                                            rlphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto                                                             
                                            re1: Ethernet address: 00:90:7f:31:0e:f3                                       
                                            re1: [FAST]           
                                            re2: <realtek 10="" 8139c+="" 100basetx="">port 0xd900-0xd9ff mem 0xefefc000-0xefefc1ff                                                                               
                                            irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci2                             
                                            miibus2: <mii bus="">on re2                         
                                            rlphy2: <realtek internal="" media="" interface="">on miibus2                                                     
                                            rlphy2:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto                                                             
                                            re2: Ethernet address: 00:90:7f:31:0e:f4                                       
                                            re2: [FAST]           
                                            re3: <realtek 10="" 8139c+="" 100basetx="">port 0xda                                         
                                            irq 12 at device 12.0 on pci2                             
                                            miibus3: <mii bus="">on re3                         
                                            rlphy3: <realtek internal="" media="" interface="">on miibus3                                                     
                                            rlphy3:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto                                                             
                                            re3: Ethernet address: 00:90:7f:31:0e:f5                                       
                                            re3: [FAST]           
                                            re4: <realtek 10="" 8139c+="" 100basetx="">port 0xdd00-0xddff mem 0xefefe000-0xefefe1ff                                                                               
                                            irq 9 at device 13.0 on pci2                           
                                            miibus4: <mii bus="">on re4                         
                                            rlphy4: <realtek internal="" media="" interface="">on miibus4                                                     
                                            rlphy4:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto                                                             
                                            re4: Ethernet address: 00:90:7f:31:0e:f6                                       
                                            re4: [FAST]           
                                            re5: <realtek 10="" 8139c+="" 100basetx="">port 0xde00-0xdeff mem 0xefeff000-0xefeff1ff                                                                               
                                            irq 6 at device 14.0 on pci2                           
                                            miibus5: <mii bus="">on re5                         
                                            rlphy5: <realtek internal="" media="" interface="">on miibus5                                                     
                                            rlphy5:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto                                                             
                                            re5: Ethernet address: 00:90:7f:31:0e:f7                                       
                                            re5: [FAST]           
                                            isab0: <pci-isa bridge="">at device 31.0 on pci0                                             
                                            isa0: <isa bus="">on isab0                       
                                            atapci0: <intel ich2="" udma100="" controller="">port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x37                                                                               
                                            6,0xff00-0xff0f at device 31.1 on pci0                                     
                                            ata0: <ata 0="" channel="">on atapci0                               
                                            ata1: <ata 1="" channel="">on atapci0                               
                                            pmtimer0 on isa0               
                                            orm0: <isa option="" rom="">at iomem 0xe0000-0xe0fff on isa0                                                       
                                            atkbdc0: <keyboard controller="" (i8042)="">at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0                                                               
                                            atkbd0: <at keyboard="">irq 1 on atkbdc0                                     
                                            kbd0 at atkbd0             
                                            atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
                                            ppc0: <parallel port="">at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
                                            ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
                                            ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold
                                            ppbus0: <parallel port="" bus="">on ppc0
                                            lpt0: <printer>on ppbus0
                                            lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
                                            ppi0: <parallel i="" o="">on ppbus0
                                            sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
                                            sio0: type 16550A, console
                                            sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
                                            sio1: port may not be enabled
                                            unknown: <pnp0c01>can't assign resources (memory)
                                            unknown: <pnp0303>can't assign resources (port)
                                            speaker0: <pc speaker="">at port 0x61 on isa0
                                            unknown: <pnp0501>can't assign resources (port)
                                            unknown: <pnp0401>can't assign resources (port)
                                            RTC BIOS diagnostic error 20 <config_unit>Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1403186855 Hz quality 800
                                            Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
                                            Fast IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
                                            ad0: 3906MB <hms360604d5cf00 dp4ec30h="">at ata0-master UDMA33                                                       
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=7999485                                             
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=7999471                                             
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=7999484                                             
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=7999487                                             
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=7999425                                             
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=7999487                                                           
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=7999487                                                             
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=7999487                                             
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=7999487                                                           
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=7999487                                                             
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=7999487                                             
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=128                                                       
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=128                                                         
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=128                                         
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=16                                                     
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=16                                                       
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out L                                 
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0                                                     
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=0                                                       
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=0                                       
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=512                                                       
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=512                                                         
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=512                                         
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=64                                                     
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=64                                                       
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=64                                       
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=0
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=0
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=2
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=2
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=2
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=16
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=16
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=16
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=128
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=128
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=128
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0
                                            ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=0
                                            ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=0
                                            Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a

                                            Manual root filesystem specification:
                                              <fstype>:<device>  Mount <device>using filesystem <fstype>eg. ufs:da0s1a
                                              ?                  List valid disk boot devices
                                              <empty line="">       Abort manual input

                                            mountroot></empty></fstype></device></device></fstype></hms360604d5cf00></config_unit></pnp0401></pnp0501></pc></pnp0303></pnp0c01></parallel></printer></parallel></parallel></at></keyboard></isa></ata></ata></intel></isa></pci-isa></realtek></mii></realtek></realtek></mii></realtek></realtek></mii></realtek></realtek></mii></realtek></realtek></mii></realtek></realtek></mii></realtek></unknown></pci></pcibios></pci></pci></intel></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,p >

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