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    Successful Install on Watchguard Firebox X700!

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    • S
      Sifter
      last edited by

      So just for fun and curiosity, I wrote a m0n0wall image to a 512meg cf card and stuck it into the watchguard cf slot.  It booted with no issue.  I then put my atheros mini-pci wireless card into the mini-pci slot, and it recognized it immediately.

      I too, am getting watchdog timeout's.  I had a ping going from my desktop and randomly, Id say every 10-20 seconds, my ping would timeout, which would then be followed by a watchdog timeout registering in my serial console window.  At the time, I only had 2 cables plugged in, internet to interface re0, and lan to re1.  Most of the watchdog timeouts were on re1.

      So I find it interesting the watchdog timeouts are both on pfsense and m0n0wall.

      I have also installed a 512meg memory stick, but only 256meg is recognized.  Are there jumpers that need to be moved in order to see the rest of the memory?

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        emigrating
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        What kind of serial cable are you guys using? I picked one of these boxes up on eBay and unfortunately it didn't come with one - figured I could use the console cable for my Linksys SRW2016, but I get nothing on-screen.

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        • jahonixJ
          jahonix
          last edited by

          @emigrating:

          the console cable for my Linksys SRW2016, but I get nothing on-screen.

          But that's due to the fact that the Linksys cable is all but wired in a known standard.
          I have some SRW2008 switches at home and tried that serial cable for a console connection to some other equipment.
          Well, grabbing my Null-modem cable worked as expected, the Linksys did not.
          And my Null-modem cable didn't work with the Linksys switch, of course. Didn't have the gutts to actually measure the pinout, just labeled it 'Linksys switch ONLY'…

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            emigrating
            last edited by

            Figured as much really as the Linksys cables are straight-thru cables.
            Oh well, off I go to eBay to pick up a USB -> null modem combo. Sure it'll come in handy again :)

            On a slightly related note, have anyone found the keyboard pinouts on the x700 motherboard? I've only had a quick look (only received it today) but nothing stands out as the prime suspect.

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            • jahonixJ
              jahonix
              last edited by

              @emigrating:

              Figured as much really as the Linksys cables are straight-thru cables.

              Then they have the connectors wrong!
              Null-modem cable should be  {DB9-female - DB9-female}  and
              straight through should be  {DB9-female - DB9-male}  making it an extension.

              Everything else is proprietary.

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                emigrating
                last edited by

                Well, to be perfectly honest - that's not the only thing they have wrong :) Took me a good while to flash the SRW2016s to an acceptable firmware which actually included all the features they were advertised as having. Good switches once that was done though.

                Oh well, nullmodem cable on it's way now. Grabbed a 5GB microdrive also to see if that'll be recognized so guess I'm shelfing the project for a couple more days.

                Hmm, whilst I'm at it - anyone got ideas on a mini-pci wifi card I could stick in it?

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                • GruensFroeschliG
                  GruensFroeschli
                  last edited by

                  I preferr this card http://pcengines.ch/wlm54g23.htm or this card http://pcengines.ch/wlm54sag23.htm depending on if i need 802.11a support or not.
                  I never had problems with them :)
                  (except on pfSense 1.0 but that was because of a bad client)…

                  We do what we must, because we can.

                  Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                    Sifter
                    last edited by

                    Again, has anyone upgraded the memory on these boxes and gotten it to see the additional?  I placed a 512meg module in the box, and it still registers at 256meg.  I tried 2 separate sticks.

                    Perhaps jumper settings somewhere on the board?

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                      Sifter
                      last edited by

                      Anyone have any updates?  Such as successful additional memory, no more watchdog timeouts, installs on a microdrive?

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                        drvcrash
                        last edited by

                        I have a 512 stick in one of mine and it sees it all. make sure you have pc133 ram.  I also have a 80 gig 2.5in laptop drive in it running the full install

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                          Dayblade
                          last edited by

                          @Sifter:

                          Again, has anyone upgraded the memory on these boxes and gotten it to see the additional?  I placed a 512meg module in the box, and it still registers at 256meg.  I tried 2 separate sticks.

                          Perhaps jumper settings somewhere on the board?

                          Upgraded it to 512 MB just this week:

                          Kingston KVR100x64C2/512 512MB PC100 CL2

                          Also changed out the heatsink and fan - that is the MAJORITY of the noise factor in the x700 - they use a fan designed by Y.S. Tech (?) that was pushing 7200+ RPM's.  I switched and installed a lower/larger fan combo @ 5500 RPM's and temps dropped by 10C and the noise is SUBJECTIVELY quieter.
                          (Granted I did not test decibel levels prior to the fan switch out)

                          Hope that helps - <3 pfSense on my WatchGuard btw - still working on getting the LCD to do its thang…otherwise, it works like a champ.

                          Dayblade

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                            emigrating
                            last edited by

                            Updates…

                            Well, it's not booting from the 5GB microdrive I picked up (although to be honest, I never expected it to). Stuck a 4GB drive in there and it's chugging along nicely though. (PoI: the LCD displayed a very basic BIOS setup selection when I stuck the 5GB drive in there).

                            Also picked up a Atheros mini-pci wificard on eBay (not the one recommended) which seems to be working fine, although it's not much in use yet.

                            As for timeouts, I've had none on the WAN, LAN1, LAN2 or WiFi port. LAN3 gets the occasional dropout, but nothing that worries me too much. Since the last reboot (2 weeks ago) it's logged 17 drops on the dashboard which doesn't seem bad at all.

                            Haven't got the LCD to display anything yet, although haven't spent too much time on it.

                            Also haven't upgraded the memory, but it's currently running at around 30% utilization so not really necessary at this point.

                            All this with a 24/3Mbps connection. Oh, running the 1.3 alpha builds.

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                              CryoGenID
                              last edited by

                              Wow what a great thing  ;D

                              The question I now have is:
                              Does this also work with a FireBox Core x750e ?
                              I have one standing around here and would like to use it with pfSense…
                              It has a lot of CPU-Power, 8 GBit-Ports...

                              I have just tried to boot the Live-CD, install it onto a normal ATA-HDD and
                              plug that one into the standard IDE-Port of the Firebox and connect via
                              Serial-Port to my PC...
                              But unfortunately I don't see anything on HyperTerminal.

                              If you connect your Firebox and for example don't put any HDD's/CF-Cards
                              into your box do you see anything via the serial connection?

                              Thanks a lot for your help!

                              I hope we can get this running  ;D

                              Best regards,

                              Chris

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                                CryoGenID
                                last edited by

                                Update:

                                I have just read the part (missed it somehow in the first place) with the
                                Linksys-Serial-Cable (with which I tried it g), so I have now used
                                another serial-cable (in German: "Nullmodemkabel"), but I only
                                get scrambled output (see attached picture) from the original
                                Watchguard-CF-Card.

                                Does anybody know what is wrong here?

                                I've tried to change the handshake (Hardware, none), speed (9600, 19800, 56000)…

                                But I always get this scrambled output...

                                Help please  ;)

                                Thanks and best regards,

                                Chris

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                                • jahonixJ
                                  jahonix
                                  last edited by

                                  First, forget about HyperTerminal and get TeraTerm Pro:
                                  http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html

                                  Looks like you're using wrong emulation.

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                                  • GruensFroeschliG
                                    GruensFroeschli
                                    last edited by

                                    Also did you make sure that your flow control is set to "none" and NOT to hardware or Xon/Xoff

                                    We do what we must, because we can.

                                    Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                      CryoGenID
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for your replies!

                                      I've just solved it…
                                      It was the speed of the serial console, I had to set it to 115200...
                                      If I used a slower speed, only that garbage could be seen... Now I can see it :-)

                                      I'll now try to get pfsense working on it :-)

                                      Thanks again!!!

                                      Best regards,

                                      Chris

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                                        CryoGenID
                                        last edited by

                                        Ok, Update again:
                                        It is really depressing…
                                        Using the original Watchguard-CF-Card I can see the Serial Output, but NO Output from
                                        pfSense :-(
                                        I have tried the liveCD and used the embedded kernel and have also tried to flash the
                                        embedded image via physdiscwrite...
                                        If I attach the CF-Card to a Vmware-VM, I can see the BootLoader booting and then
                                        (of course) nothing more as it switches to serial console output...
                                        But using the FireBox, I get nothing at all via the serial port (using 115200 and 9800 bps)...
                                        The Display of the FB says "Booting OS...." ...

                                        Do you have any other thoughts to get this finally running? :-)

                                        Thanks and best regards,

                                        Chris

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                                          emigrating
                                          last edited by

                                          Do you not get any serial output at all from the x700?

                                          Did you install the embedded or normal image? I just installed the standard image on my microdrive, changed the bootloader and fstab slightly (as detailed earlier in the thread) and away it went.

                                          Could be the card you're using isn't compatible with the firebox - as noted in one of my previous posts, I had a 5GB card that just would not work (and the LCD would show some bios settings).

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                                            CryoGenID
                                            last edited by

                                            Hey :-)

                                            I installed both images and selected the embedded kernel when I used the normal image…

                                            But I don't get any output at all...

                                            But this is a X1250e, and not a X700 ;-)

                                            I am using a 2 GB CF-Card... But I could try to use another 1 GB Card and see what happens ;-)

                                            Any other ideas?

                                            I gues noone has a schematic for a VGA and KB-Cable (for which the Mainboard of the X1250e
                                            has connectors)?

                                            Thanks and best regards,

                                            Chris

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