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    • A
      atamido
      last edited by

      My roommate had a Dell Optiplex GX50 small form factor sitting in a box that he wasn't using, so I grabbed it to install pfsense onto.  Installation went without a hitch.  I purchased 512MB or RAM, the max it could hold ($22 shipped) and a gigabit AirLink NIC ($10 from Fry's) for the LAN connection.  The harddrive had died, so I replaced it with another old IDE drive I had sitting around (I had two, so I picked the one with the lowest amperage ratings on the label).  Once it was installed, I disconnected the power to the floppy and CD drives.

      I'd originally purchased a CF to IDE adapter and a 266x CF card, and it installed fine.  However I ended up not using it as I decided I wanted to proxy traffic and it would probably die too quickly.

      The dmesg:

      # dmesg
      Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
      Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
              The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
      FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
      FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat Sep 13 03:20:38 EDT 2008
          sullrich@freebsd7-releng_1_2.geekgod.com:/usr/obj.pfSense/usr/src/sys/pfSense.7
      Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
      CPU: Intel Celeron (1096.67-MHz 686-class CPU)
        Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x68a  Stepping = 10
        Features=0x383fbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,mmx,fxsr,sse>real memory  = 535261184 (510 MB)
      avail memory = 509825024 (486 MB)
      ACPI APIC Table: <dell  gx50 ="">ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1
      ioapic0 <version 2.0="">irqs 0-23 on motherboard
      wlan: mac acl policy registered
      kbd1 at kbdmux0
      ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
      hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Sep 13 2008 03:20:10)
      cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
      acpi0: <dell gx50 ="">on motherboard
      acpi0: [ITHREAD]
      acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
      acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
      acpi0: reservation of 100000, f00000 (3) failed
      acpi0: reservation of 1000000, 1ee77000 (3) failed
      Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
      acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
      cpu0: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
      acpi_button0: <power button="">on acpi0
      pcib0: <acpi host-pci="" bridge="">port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
      pci0: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib0
      vgapci0: <vga-compatible display="">mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff,0xffa00000-0xffa7ffff irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0
      agp0: <intel 82810="" (i810="" gmch)="" svga="" controller="">on vgapci0
      pcib1: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">at device 30.0 on pci0
      pci1: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib1
      re0: <realtek 8169sb="" 8110sb="" single-chip="" gigabit="" ethernet="">port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xff8ffc00-0xff8ffcff irq 16 at device 7.0 on pci1
      miibus0: <mii bus="">on re0
      rgephy0: <rtl8169s 8110s="" 8211b="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus0
      rgephy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto
      re0: Ethernet address: 00:18:e7:18:54:68
      re0: [FILTER]
      xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe880-0xe8ff mem 0xff8ff800-0xff8ff87f irq 18 at device 12.0 on pci1
      miibus1: <mii bus="">on xl0
      ukphy0: <generic ieee="" 802.3u="" media="" interface="">PHY 24 on miibus1
      ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
      xl0: Ethernet address: 00:06:5b:9d:a9:2e
      xl0: [ITHREAD]
      isab0: <pci-isa bridge="">at device 31.0 on pci0
      isa0: <isa bus="">on isab0
      atapci0: <intel ich="" udma66="" controller="">port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
      ata0: <ata 0="" channel="">on atapci0
      ata0: [ITHREAD]
      ata1: <ata 1="" channel="">on atapci0
      ata1: [ITHREAD]
      uhci0: <intel 82801aa="" (ich)="" usb="" controller="">port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
      uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
      uhci0: [ITHREAD]
      usb0: <intel 82801aa="" (ich)="" usb="" controller="">on uhci0
      usb0: USB revision 1.0
      uhub0: <intel 1="" 9="" uhci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 1.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usb0
      uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
      pci0: <serial bus,="" smbus="">at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
      speaker0: <pc speaker="">port 0x61 on acpi0
      fdc0: <floppy drive="" controller="">port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
      fdc0: [FILTER]
      pmtimer0 on isa0
      orm0: <isa option="" roms="">at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xcffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0
      atkbdc0: <keyboard controller="" (i8042)="">at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
      atkbd0: <at keyboard="">irq 1 on atkbdc0
      kbd0 at atkbd0
      atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
      atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
      ppc0: parallel port not found.
      sc0: <system console="">at flags 0x100 on isa0
      sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
      sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
      sio0: port may not be enabled
      sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
      sio0: port may not be enabled
      sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
      sio0: type 8250 or not responding
      sio0: [FILTER]
      sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
      sio1: port may not be enabled
      vga0: <generic isa="" vga="">at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
      uhub1: <vendor 2="" 9="" 0x413c="" general="" purpose="" usb="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 1.10="" 1.01,="" addr="">on uhub0
      uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
      Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1096672945 Hz quality 800
      Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
      Fast IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
      hptrr: no controller detected.
      ad0: 238475MB <hitachi hds722525vlat80="" v36oa6ma="">at ata0-master UDMA66
      Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
      re0: link state changed to UP
      xl0: link state changed to UP
      re0: link state changed to DOWN
      re0: link state changed to UP
      pflog0: promiscuous mode enabled
      re0: promiscuous mode enabled
      re0: promiscuous mode disabled
      re0: promiscuous mode enabled</hitachi></vendor></generic></system></at></keyboard></isa></floppy></pc></serial></intel></intel></intel></ata></ata></intel></isa></pci-isa></generic></mii></rtl8169s></mii></realtek></acpi></acpi></intel></vga-compatible></acpi></acpi></power></acpi></dell></software></version></dell ></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,mmx,fxsr,sse> 
      
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      • GruensFroeschliG
        GruensFroeschli
        last edited by

        ??? What's your question?

        We do what we must, because we can.

        Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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          atamido
          last edited by

          No question, just thought to post hardware that had no issues.  I wasn't sure where else to put it, so I posted in the hardware forum.

          Do people not post successful hardware here?

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          • GruensFroeschliG
            GruensFroeschli
            last edited by

            Ah sorry.
            Yes some do, but usually it's connected with some kind of issue, so i didnt know what to make of your post :D

            Do you know how much power the whole system draws?

            We do what we must, because we can.

            Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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              atamido
              last edited by

              I finally picked up a Kill-A-Watt device to check power draw.  Just sitting there and with light web browsing using a transparent proxy and traffic shaping the system pulls around 35W.

              While downloading at 15Mbps and 300Kbps upload and around 300 active states, the system pulls around 49W.  With this load the CPU is running around 40% with the occasional spike to 80%, so I'm guessing the system could handle 30Mbps or so fine.

              While booting and accessing the harddrive, it pulls around 62W.

              Any ideas how this compares with other more embedded solutions?

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              • GruensFroeschliG
                GruensFroeschli
                last edited by

                http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm

                The ALIX which can push over 50 Mbit/s can be powered over PoE.
                The page says it uses about 5W, but the PoE specs and the PSU provided in the onlineshop are for up to 15W.

                So even if it's not as low as 5W it's maximum 15W.

                We do what we must, because we can.

                Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                  atamido
                  last edited by

                  I could probably shave off a few watts by using a CF instead of a harddisk.  Still, five times the power envelope for a six an a half year old fat system isn't too bad.  Cost for power is around $3/month (plus cooling costs), which I can live with.  And considering the small out of pocket cost, it'd take me years just to make that up in power costs.

                  Still, I really want to get one of those embedded boards to play with.  Maybe when this system dies?

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                    atamido
                    last edited by

                    After monitoring the power for 30 days, the system used 27.5 KWH of power, and transferred 428GB of data.  I feel pretty satisfied with the functionality for $3/month electricity usage (+ cooling costs).

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                    • GruensFroeschliG
                      GruensFroeschli
                      last edited by

                      For the other readers:
                      27500 Wh / 720 h

                      = 38.2 W power consumption.
                      Not that bad, considering it's not an embedded system.

                      We do what we must, because we can.

                      Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                        atamido
                        last edited by

                        My 1.86 GHz Core 2 Duo desktop pulls about 115 Watts while idling, and about 200 Watts under load.  So yeah, for what is basically an old desktop it's doing really well.

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                          Darkk
                          last edited by

                          I am using an old Dell OpiPlex GX150 desktop which is a 1Ghz PIII with 512MB ram and 40gig IBM Deathstar hard drive which only draws about 32 watts at idle and about 45 watts max.  For something that is big as a desktop with a fan I'd say it's pretty darn good.

                          One of these days I'm going to convert the PC into a hybrid embedded system meaning no fans and no hard drive.  It'll save a few watts but not so much.  Still cheaper than buying a $300 embedded device.

                          For remote office environments I always go embedded since no moving parts to worry about.  However, if I am successful of taking an old Dell PC with low power draw and convert it into a hybrid it'll save it from going to e-waste since for a router it's got plenty of life left in it and save some money too.

                          Darkk

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                            atamido
                            last edited by

                            Do you plan on converting the existing power supply to fanless, or are you going to purchase a new fanless power supply?

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                              Darkk
                              last edited by

                              @atamido:

                              Do you plan on converting the existing power supply to fanless, or are you going to purchase a new fanless power supply?

                              I may have to replace the power supply with a fanless model.  The entire PC doesn't need alot of power to run so I can probably get away with a small factor 100 watt PS unit once I change the hard drive to a CF or laptop hard drive and no fans.  I'd very happy if the entire thing runs under 20 watts but not likely due to the PIII.  Lucky it's not a P4, power hungry little beast.

                              Darkk

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