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    • A Offline
      abadger1406
      last edited by

      /etc/rc.reload_all
      appears to be the command to read /cf/conf/config.xml file and apply it, so that is my second question answered.

      My second question is still puzzling me, do you have to use type - 'CARP' to get public WAN IP addresses to map to internal IP addresses behind the firewall ?

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      • GruensFroeschliG Offline
        GruensFroeschli
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        No you dont "have" to use carp IP's.

        http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7001.0.html
        @http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic:

        Virtual IP's:
        A Service cannot bind to an Proxy-ARP VIP. (Services on pfSense) use for that CARP instead.

        You can NOT ping Proxy ARP VIP's
        Use CARP VIP's instead.
        http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,4499.0.html

        A description of what the differences between the 3 types of VIPs are:
        http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,3987.msg24632.html#msg24632

        We do what we must, because we can.

        Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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          abadger1406
          last edited by

          Thanks for the quick response .. now thing I understand CARP and ProxyARP's, but don't see the ProxyARP VIP's getting configured on the WAN interface - i.e no change in ifconfig output ?

          If you use type ProxyARP for the VIP - which seems the more logical choice -  what should ifconfig output show me?

          I don't see it adding an interface to listen for this VIP address, hence none of the NAT forwarding rules will work ??

          thx dave

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          • GruensFroeschliG Offline
            GruensFroeschli
            last edited by

            I dont know if ifconfig will show the change.
            Probably not since you say it doesnt show up ;)
            But i know that PARP VIP's work as how they should.

            We do what we must, because we can.

            Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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              abadger1406
              last edited by

              Thanks for the replies…I would like to know from others using ProxyARP VIP's whether their ifconfig shows up these addresses - I cannot see how the box would receive these packets if this was not the case ?? Just go to option 8, and run ifconfig command to see this.

              Had to put my firewall back to IPCop untill I get this working cleanly.

              One thing that bite me hard was making a mistake in editing config.xml and you are hosed if doing remote admin of the firewall. Is there a parse checker for this - or is it everybody uses the webGUI and never hand edits ??

              Still in the dark over proxyARP and why they would not work for me, but have a spare machine setup on pfsense to play with and hopefully post back something intelligent as to why it was not working.

              Lastly, general question - is pfsense more aimed at home user firewalls and not firewalls to be used to protect servers running in a hosted environment.

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              • jahonixJ Offline
                jahonix
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                @abadger1406:

                Lastly, general question - is pfsense more aimed at home user firewalls and not firewalls to be used to protect servers running in a hosted environment.

                Just to give you an idea what others are using it for:
                http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7668.0.html
                I'd think it is more business. The feature set far exceeds the needs of regular home users.

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                • jahonixJ Offline
                  jahonix
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                  @abadger1406:

                  Q2. How can should you manually edit /rc/conf/config.xml and then get the server to re-read this file. I want to do this to enable WAN access to the Web GUI, so if there is a better way of acheiving this when I am outside of the Internal WAN, then please let me know.

                  @abadger1406:

                  One thing that bite me hard was making a mistake in editing config.xml and you are hosed if doing remote admin of the firewall. Is there a parse checker for this - or is it everybody uses the webGUI and never hand edits ??

                  Usually most (if not all) of the configuration is done through the WebGUI.
                  I don't gain much by editing config.xml by hand.

                  If you don't want to open up the WebGUI for secure WAN access (e.g. https on a non standard port) I would use OpenVPN to tunnel into that network and use the WebGUI from within. IPsec is another option.

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                  • dotdashD Offline
                    dotdash
                    last edited by

                    Proxy-ARP VIPs are handled by a proxy-arp daemon. They do not show up in ifconfig. They should work just fine. If you don't like that, go ahead and use CARP VIPs, they should also work fine for your purposes.

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                      abadger1406
                      last edited by

                      I think I might have figured out why the proxy - ARP VIP's did not work immediately for me….

                      Proxy-ARP VIP's may not have worked for me, as the routing service within my hosted environment would have already cached MAC addresses for these IP addresses, as currently an IPCOP firewall is set to listen to those IP addresses, so when I turn the ipcop firewall off, and turn the pfsense firewall on, the arp cache in the router will continue to try to contact that MAC address of the ipcop firewall  for these ipaddress sometime after.

                      So I should have just added the MAC address of the existing ipcop firewall to the list of mac addresses served by the pfsense firewall, and I think all work have worked immediately.

                      Or is there a way to tell external machine to delete certain artp cache entries ?

                      Will let you know if this works, next time I attempt the upgrade.

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                      • dotdashD Offline
                        dotdash
                        last edited by

                        If you don't have control of the router, you have to wait for their arp-cache to expire. Although it will be cleared if the provider's router just happens to get power cycled accidentally. You could also call them and ask them to clear it.

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