4GB NanoBSD Snapshots
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For me, I hope there will also be 8GB NanoBSD snapshots soon. It is hard to justify buying 4GB CF cards or even 2GB when the 8GB is cheaper, about $15US this week. I also heard it is now slightly more expensive to make a 2GB CF card than an 8GB.
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Why not just buy the card and put the 2GB image on? For nanobsd, bigger is the opposite of better!
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The 4GB snaps should appear again: http://redmine.pfsense.org/repositories/revision/3/da7dd453100643a5a93170cd16c2577103c27547
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Why not just buy the card and put the 2GB image on? For nanobsd, bigger is the opposite of better!
Won't having a bigger image means much more space for future addons/packages?
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Why not just buy the card and put the 2GB image on? For nanobsd, bigger is the opposite of better!
Won't having a bigger image means much more space for future addons/packages?
Yes. But packages are the domain of spinning disk and the beauty of nanobsd is its compactness. I appreciate that people want to use ALL the space on the card, but the developers need to prioritize resources. How long before people ask for 16GB card images? Right now a 2GB upgrade slice copy (1GB itself) takes ~220 seconds to copy on my ALIX 2D3 when the upgrade is applied. I'm in the camp that packages should remain unsupported on the embedded flavor of pfSense.
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One of the package I'm thinking of adding is the FeeSWITCH package. Even the author thinks at least 4GB is best. For a simple home setup, not needing a power hungry small PC, the Alix+CF would be ideal. I just saw a few new low power Intel Atom-based embedded network appliances w/ GigE ports pci-e & CF slots from Taiwan & China. They look like excellent Alix replacements.
Yeah, not sure why the Alix writes SO SLOWLY on CF cards. Maybe it's the CPU/Bus/driver issues. The same high speed CF cards when placed into a regular PC w/ an adapter writes much quickly.
Also, I just bought a new HP desktop, and it writes the image in a matter of seconds to my year old "high speed" 4GB CF card.
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I just saw a few new low power Intel Atom-based embedded network appliances w/ GigE ports pci-e & CF slots from Taiwan & China. They look like excellent Alix replacements.
Where? ;D
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Since we're getting a bit off topics, what the heck ::):
I'm sure some of these will show up, re-branded by others with a price premium slapped on top of them, but one of the newer ones is this one: http://www.ibase.com.tw/2009/fwa6104.html
Not exactly sure who "really" makes them. Oftentimes they are the exact same board sold by several dealers at very different prices. Another one is: http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/norco-rachel/offer-detailJqaQLpoKOucb/1-Fanless-Network-Appliance-Based-on-Atom-N270-CPU-with-4x-LAN.html
Right now, they are mostly sold to resellers and are purchased in large quantities. Runs about 1.6GHz & is fansless & can add a mini-pci VGA card if not planning on wireless.
The cpu uses about 2.5 watts & chipset is about 6 watts, so it's not as bad as those 1st gen. Atoms, where the chipset needed a fan.
I'm gonna wait till the end of the year when the're a bit cheaper :-) Just ignore the price they show, as it is ALWAYS very negotiable, once you discuss volume.
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The 4GB snaps should appear again: http://redmine.pfsense.org/repositories/revision/3/da7dd453100643a5a93170cd16c2577103c27547
I can't find the snapshot for the 4GB, when will be available?
Edit: Thanks for the new build. Found it now with date Aug 19, 2009 http://snapshots.pfsense.org/FreeBSD_RELENG_7_2/pfSense_RELENG_1_2/nanobsd/
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just wondering..
1. is there any reason there are daily version of the different images? bug fixes/enhancemmentS?
2. i've tried to do the auto upgrade and after that, it blew up.. i had to reburn the image on my test 1GB CF card.
3. so, i have decided to get a 4GB.. instead of 2GB.. only $2 differences… now it won't even find the card when i use the physdiskwrite.. anyone has any clue?
4. i am also trying to use it on the alix 2c3 board.. anyone has any 'friendly' advise as far as.. what 'not' to do?thank you
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just wondering..
1. is there any reason there are daily version of the different images? bug fixes/enhancemmentS?
2. i've tried to do the auto upgrade and after that, it blew up.. i had to reburn the image on my test 1GB CF card.
3. so, i have decided to get a 4GB.. instead of 2GB.. only $2 differences… now it won't even find the card when i use the physdiskwrite.. anyone has any clue?
4. i am also trying to use it on the alix 2c3 board.. anyone has any 'friendly' advise as far as.. what 'not' to do?thank you
Hi
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The builds are automated. There's no guarantee that today's build will have different code than yesterday's. But newer code is generally better. YMMV.
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Auto upgrade is still broken for nanobsd as far as I know. Manual update works, assuming you're running a manually flashed nanobsd instance
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Can you copy and paste the contents of the DOS window that gave the error(s)?
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Do you know what version of the ALIX BIOS you're running?
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just wondering..
1. is there any reason there are daily version of the different images? bug fixes/enhancemmentS?
2. i've tried to do the auto upgrade and after that, it blew up.. i had to reburn the image on my test 1GB CF card.
3. so, i have decided to get a 4GB.. instead of 2GB.. only $2 differences… now it won't even find the card when i use the physdiskwrite.. anyone has any clue?
4. i am also trying to use it on the alix 2c3 board.. anyone has any 'friendly' advise as far as.. what 'not' to do?thank you
Hi
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The builds are automated. There's no guarantee that today's build will have different code than yesterday's. But newer code is generally better. YMMV.
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Auto upgrade is still broken for nanobsd as far as I know. Manual update works, assuming you're running a manually flashed nanobsd instance
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Can you copy and paste the contents of the DOS window that gave the error(s)?
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Do you know what version of the ALIX BIOS you're running?
1. thank you for the clarification.
2. does that mean i should do a daily manual download and apply it to the '1st' slice?
3.–i will try to capture it next time
4. 0.99h. maybe i am not clear aout my question.. i am just wondering if there's anything i should watch out for? like.. performance will degrade after certain amount of time...blah blah.thank you :D
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2: No. Assuming you already have a recent nanobsd instance (that you presumably flashed by hand), you can download an update suitable for the size of your CF card and use System:Firmware:Manual Update. I just looked and I guess I hadn't noticed that Auto Update has been removed from the later snapshots.
4: The later snapshots seem quite stable. I have not had issues for quite some time on my 2D3. -
2: No. Assuming you already have a recent nanobsd instance (that you presumably flashed by hand), you can download an update suitable for the size of your CF card and use System:Firmware:Manual Update. I just looked and I guess I hadn't noticed that Auto Update has been removed from the later snapshots.
4: The later snapshots seem quite stable. I have not had issues for quite some time on my 2D3.Great! thanks!
now, just wondering is there a special forum for the nanobsd package setup? i have installed the imspector and denyhost and they both don't seem to be working.(no log for imspector and nothing with denyhost)…
thanks
