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    • jimpJ
      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
      last edited by

      That is a normal message and not indicative of any failure.

      If there are no log entries after that, it means that neither side has actually tried to establish the tunnel, or if they have, the traffic was blocked.

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        XIII
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        how would i tell if its even tried to establish a link?

        spd entries are correct

        -Chris Stutzman
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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by

          There would be log entries indicating that phase 1 and phase 2 were negotiated and complete:

          racoon: [Somewhere]: INFO: respond new phase 1 negotiation: x.x.x.x[500]<=>y.y.y.y[500]
          racoon: [Somewhere]: INFO: ISAKMP-SA established x.x.x.x[500]-y.y.y.y[500] spi:4f5d1ab6bdfe76ae:fa4c6e0e3095bd17
          racoon: [Somewhere]: INFO: respond new phase 2 negotiation: x.x.x.x[0]<=>y.y.y.y[0]
          racoon: [Somewhere]: INFO: IPsec-SA established: ESP y.y.y.y[0]->x.x.x.x[0] spi=232796189(0xde0301d)
          racoon: [Somewhere]: INFO: IPsec-SA established: ESP x.x.x.x[0]->y.y.y.y[0] spi=1135985116(0x43b5c1dc)

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            XIII
            last edited by

            so they are not communicating
            the logs show that it is starting

            from main logs:
            Dec 16 20:08:31 check_reload_status: reloading filter
            Dec 16 20:08:28 php: /vpn_ipsec.php: IPSEC: Send a reload signal to the IPsec process
            Dec 16 20:08:07 php: /vpn_ipsec_edit.php: Reloading IPsec tunnel 'Site-Site VPN Tunnel'. Previous IP 'x.x.x.x', current IP 'x.x.x.x'. Reloading policy

            from ipsec logs:
            Dec 16 20:08:17 racoon: [Self]: INFO: LocalLANIP[500] used as isakmp port (fd=15)
            Dec 16 20:08:17 racoon: [Self]: INFO: LocalWANIP[500] used as isakmp port (fd=14)
            Dec 16 20:08:17 racoon: [Self]: INFO: 127.0.0.1[500] used as isakmp port (fd=13)
            Dec 16 20:08:17 racoon: INFO: unsupported PF_KEY message REGISTER

            -Chris Stutzman
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            • jimpJ
              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
              last edited by

              So nothing has tried to start the tunnel up. Do you have keep-alive addresses set on either end of the tunnel?

              Have you tried to initiate a ping from one client LAN to the other side?

              Or from pfSense on the console, see the lower part of this page.

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                XIII
                last edited by

                keep-alive is set, its the gateways lan at the other end
                ping fails (time out)
                looking at page now.

                page didnt help.

                -Chris Stutzman
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                  XIII
                  last edited by

                  i had to forcefully reload the tunnel and its onto phase 2

                  i get:
                  Dec 16 20:27:07 racoon: ERROR: failed to pre-process packet.
                  Dec 16 20:27:07 racoon: ERROR: failed to get sainfo.
                  Dec 16 20:27:07 racoon: ERROR: failed to get sainfo.

                  the above keeps repeating for about 3 times and then this:

                  ERROR: x.x.x.x give up to get IPsec-SA due to time up to wait.

                  -Chris Stutzman
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                    XIII
                    last edited by

                    heres my logs, they repeat

                    Dec 16 21:11:24 racoon: [Site-Site VPN Tunnel]: ERROR: RemoteWANIP give up to get IPsec-SA due to time up to wait
                    Dec 16 21:11:05 racoon: ERROR: failed to pre-process packet.
                    Dec 16 21:11:05 racoon: ERROR: failed to get sainfo.
                    Dec 16 21:11:05 racoon: ERROR: failed to get sainfo.
                    Dec 16 21:11:05 racoon: [Site-Site VPN Tunnel]: INFO: respond new phase 2 negotiation: WANIP[0]<=>WANIP[0]

                    -Chris Stutzman
                    Sys0:2.0.1: AMD Sempron 140 @2.7 1024M RAM 100GHD
                    Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Are you sure that IPsec traffic is able to reach both routers? The logs seem to imply a lack of communication or timeout, as if the traffic is being blocked or going to the wrong IP address(es).

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                        XIII
                        last edited by

                        I had a site-site vpn setup before, that was with openvpn using client -> server. dont know if its been changed but at the time, one had to know the exact ip of the server.

                        but those logs say that its not connecting? I will check with my isp (one is qwest (they dont block anything) other is cox (they block but dont say what, will only say after you tell them what our trying to do and you have to call corporate, will elaborate if anyone wants to know more)

                        -Chris Stutzman
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                        Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by

                          With IPsec on 1.2.3 you can use hostnames for the remote peer, so it shouldn't be a problem to use dyndns there if you don't know the exact IP.

                          You could do some tcpdump/packet captures on the WAN of both sites to see if you are receiving any traffic. There is a bit about that kind of troubleshooting in the book.

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                            XIII
                            last edited by

                            heres the dump log

                            12:53:59.308806 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 292
                            12:53:59.337224 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 316
                            12:53:59.457402 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 52
                            12:53:59.459263 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 84
                            12:54:00.496691 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 300
                            12:54:10.495514 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 300
                            12:54:20.497094 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 300
                            12:54:51.497879 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:54:56.498759 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:55:01.499686 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:55:06.503968 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:55:11.507307 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:55:59.341119 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:55:59.341697 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:55:59.341928 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: UDP, length 92
                            12:55:59.433219 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: UDP, length 92

                            with regards to the book, i am getting it, its on order from amazon i just have to wait.

                            -Chris Stutzman
                            Sys0:2.0.1: AMD Sempron 140 @2.7 1024M RAM 100GHD
                            Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
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                            • jimpJ
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by

                              That's all you see with tcpdump? Or was that a packet capture from the GUI?

                              Usually tcpdump will do some protocol analysis on IPsec, and it will look more like:

                              14:01:24.566352 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: isakmp: phase 1 I agg
                              14:01:24.623288 IP y.y.y.y.500 > x.x.x.x.500: isakmp: phase 1 R agg
                              14:01:24.653504 IP x.x.x.x.500 > y.y.y.y.500: isakmp: phase 2/others

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                                XIII
                                last edited by

                                you are correct, that was just a packet capture.
                                i will do a tcpdump and post results when i can access the other system

                                -Chris Stutzman
                                Sys0:2.0.1: AMD Sempron 140 @2.7 1024M RAM 100GHD
                                Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
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                                • X
                                  XIII
                                  last edited by

                                  well, I think it may be cox or my modem. If i cant find one for cheap I will be switching to qwest, i have them at another location and they have been very reliable. Cox doesnt even know how much they sell the motorola modems for, i have been told 30-60.

                                  when pinging location 1, i would get 1 response for every 10-20 pings. connection keeps getting dropped with no activity at the location and it goes away for several hrs. but after looking at the modems logs it looks as if it is getting the wrong info from cox, one entry will have the correct timestamp then the net will have 1970 and a level 3 error (mostly dhcp, or oid response errors) then the next couple have the correct timestamp.

                                  -Chris Stutzman
                                  Sys0:2.0.1: AMD Sempron 140 @2.7 1024M RAM 100GHD
                                  Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
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                                  • X
                                    XIII
                                    last edited by

                                    well i swaped the modem, that helped with the connectivity issues but not the vpn, there is no data for port 500, the ssh and other web stuff is there but no port 500 or any isakmp stuff

                                    -Chris Stutzman
                                    Sys0:2.0.1: AMD Sempron 140 @2.7 1024M RAM 100GHD
                                    Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
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                                    • X
                                      XIII
                                      last edited by

                                      i will try to redo the site to site following your instructions in the book either later today or tomorrow

                                      -Chris Stutzman
                                      Sys0:2.0.1: AMD Sempron 140 @2.7 1024M RAM 100GHD
                                      Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
                                      freedns.afraid.org - Free DNS dynamic DNS subdomain and domain hosting.
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                                      • X
                                        XIII
                                        last edited by

                                        well, i rebuilt the vpn and now it is working.

                                        Thanks for all your help.

                                        The book is very helpful, who do i contact about errors? (is there a central place to do it?) Most can be solved by reading the entire section (the subnetmask.info topic is one example)

                                        -Chris Stutzman
                                        Sys0:2.0.1: AMD Sempron 140 @2.7 1024M RAM 100GHD
                                        Sys1:2.0.1: Intel P4 @2.66 1024M RAM 40GHD
                                        freedns.afraid.org - Free DNS dynamic DNS subdomain and domain hosting.
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                                        • jimpJ
                                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          Good to hear it's working. There is an errata page here:

                                          http://www.reedmedia.net/books/pfsense/errata.html

                                          Check there first, and if it's not a known error, they can be sent to me (jimp (a) pfsense.org) or Chris (cmb (a) pfsense.org) and we'll see what can be done about them.

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