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    • R
      rkelleyrtp
      last edited by

      You may need to set the "native vlan" statement on this port:

      • config t
      • int gig 0/22
      • switchport native-vlan 13

      BTW - Cisco does not have VLAN0, the VLANs start at 1.  I would renumber your VLANs such as vlan1, vlan2, vlan3 just to keep things consistent.

      Also, what does "sh int gige0/22" give you?  What about "show int trunk"?

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        rkelleyrtp
        last edited by

        @vatson:

        
         switchport nonegotiate
        
        

        Curious, why do you have nonegotiate set on the link?

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by

          @rkelleyrtp:

          BTW - Cisco does not have VLAN0, the VLANs start at 1.  I would renumber your VLANs such as vlan1, vlan2, vlan3 just to keep things consistent.

          I'd take that a step further and not use VLAN1 either. Start numbering at 10 or 100 if it's easier, but avoid VLAN1. Too much stuff defaults to going there, and it's typically things that shouldn't be mixed into a network exposed to end users.

          The OP may also want to try without the "allowed" line and see if it works.

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            rkelleyrtp
            last edited by

            Agree about vlan1.  Normally, network guys start at >1 because vlan1 is considered the Admin vlan.

            If it were me, I would start at 100 and work my way up from there.  In fact, I have this identical config on a pair of 3750G switches using this interface config:

            
            interface GigabitEthernet1/0/38
             description CAB-B pfSense1 INSIDE TRUNK
             switchport access vlan 300
             switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
             switchport trunk allowed vlan 300,2000-2999
             switchport mode trunk
            
            

            Here, I am trunking VLANs 300 and 2000-2999.  The "switchport access vlan 300" statement seems to be necessary on pfSense because that is the primary (native) vlan on that interface.

            Hope this helps…

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              vatson
              last edited by

              Thanks a lot for all the comments, and sorry for not replying sooner. I've been overwhelmed with other, non-pfSense-related issues. I really appreciate all your advice, but unfortunately I can't try it out until maybe Sunday. I'll certainly let you know how it goes.

              The most significant thing that I seem to be missing is the native-VLAN setting.

              I have nonegotiate set on all the trunk ports. My thinking with this was that I really don't want the switch to "negotiate" and start carryng some VLANs across the trunks that I didn't intend. Maybe I'm missing the point here.

              BTW, I only have this one Catalyst in my network, all the other equipment connecting to it is non-Cisco.

              I totally agree with you regarding not using VLAN 1, and if I'd start creating my network today I would avoid it. Unfortunately I wasn't aware of this practice many years ago when I first implemented VLANs, and now migrating away from VLAN 1 would mean reconfiguring dozens of switches…

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                rkelleyrtp
                last edited by

                No problem.  Let us know how it goes.

                BTW - I would make sure the VLAN IDs match between your pfSense box and your Cisco switch.  In your original email, you mentioned:

                pfSense      CISCO
                –-------    --------
                vlan0    --> VLAN1
                vlan1    --> VLAN13
                vlan2    --> VLAN16

                I would make sure the VLAN IDs match (like this:)

                pfSense        CISCO
                –-------    --------
                vlan1      --> VLAN1
                vlan13    --> VLAN13
                vlan16    --> VLAN16

                This way, you probably won't run into the native vlan problem…

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  @rkelleyrtp:

                  No problem.  Let us know how it goes.

                  BTW - I would make sure the VLAN IDs match between your pfSense box and your Cisco switch.  In your original email, you mentioned:

                  pfSense      CISCO
                  –-------    --------
                  vlan0    --> VLAN1
                  vlan1    --> VLAN13
                  vlan2    --> VLAN16

                  That is just how pfSense numbers them in 1.2.x. The first one is 0, next is 1, etc, etc. In pfSense 2 they are tagged with the vlan id, but not in 1.2.x. That's fine, as long as their VLAN IDs are set right.

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                    vatson
                    last edited by

                    Yes, in my understanding also the numbers behind interface name are not the same thing as VLAN tags. VLAN tags appear separately in ifconfig, as seen below:

                    vlan0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>ether 00:0a:e4:01:38:f0
                            inet6 fe80::20a:e4ff:fe01:38f0%vlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
                            inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
                            media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <half-duplex>)
                            status: active
                            vlan: 1 parent interface: em0
                    vlan1: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>ether 00:0a:e4:01:38:f0
                            inet6 fe80::20a:e4ff:fe01:38f0%vlan1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                            inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.14.255
                            media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <half-duplex>)
                            status: active
                            vlan: 13 parent interface: em0
                    vlan2: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>ether 00:0a:e4:01:38:f0
                            inet6 fe80::20a:e4ff:fe01:38f0%vlan2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
                            inet 192.168.6.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.6.255
                            media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <half-duplex>)
                            status: active
                            vlan: 16 parent interface: em0</half-duplex></rxcsum,txcsum></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></half-duplex></rxcsum,txcsum></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></half-duplex></rxcsum,txcsum></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Yeah those look fine.

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                        vatson
                        last edited by

                        I did some tests, but without success…

                        First I tried this, on top of my existing setup:

                        config t
                        int gi0/22
                        switchport access vlan 1
                        
                        

                        This seemed to have no noticeable effect on the config. Also, when connecting pfSense to the port, things still didn't work

                        'switchport native-vlan' doesn't seem to be an accepted command.

                        Then I reduced the port config to just:

                        switchport mode trunk
                        switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
                        

                        Still no joy…

                        Then I tried this

                        switchport mode access
                        switchport access vlan 1
                        switchport mode trunk
                        swithcport trunk encapsulation dot1q
                        switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,3,16
                        
                        

                        No change…

                        I also tried fixing the speed to 100FD, which also didn't help, so I changed back to auto.

                        This is the output of "sh int gi0/22" when pfSense is connected:

                        GigabitEthernet0/22 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
                          Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is 0025.8306.4096 (bia 0025.8306.4096)
                          MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
                             reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
                          Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
                          Keepalive set (10 sec)
                          Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX
                          input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
                          ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
                          Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
                          Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
                          Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
                          Queueing strategy: fifo
                          Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
                          5 minute input rate 326000 bits/sec, 44 packets/sec
                          5 minute output rate 37000 bits/sec, 47 packets/sec
                             41587 packets input, 46170281 bytes, 0 no buffer
                             Received 24 broadcasts (0 multicasts)
                             37 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
                             98 input errors, 61 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
                             0 watchdog, 8 multicast, 0 pause input
                             0 input packets with dribble condition detected
                             62462 packets output, 8175017 bytes, 0 underruns
                             0 output errors, 0 collisions, 1 interface resets
                             0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
                             0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output
                             0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
                        

                        And the output of "sh int trunk" (I removed other ports for brevity):

                        Port        Mode         Encapsulation  Status        Native vlan
                        Gi0/22      on           802.1q         trunking      1
                        
                        Port        Vlans allowed on trunk
                        Gi0/22      1,13,16
                        
                        Port        Vlans allowed and active in management domain
                        Gi0/22      1,13,16
                        
                        Port        Vlans in spanning tree forwarding state and not pruned
                        Gi0/22      1,13,16
                        

                        I'm starting to suspect the issue may not be in VLAN tagging but something else entirely… But what might it be?

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                          rkelleyrtp
                          last edited by

                          I was mistaken before about the native vlan command.  Use this:  "switchport trunk native vlan <xxx>".  But, since you are trunking VLAN 1, that should be the native vlan.

                          Can you give me the output of "sh run | int gig 0/22" ?</xxx>

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                            vatson
                            last edited by

                            Current configuration : 137 bytes
                            !
                            interface GigabitEthernet0/22
                            switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
                            switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,13,16
                            switchport mode trunk
                            end

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                              rkelleyrtp
                              last edited by

                              What kind of NIC are you using in your pfSense box?  I have seen other with NICs that have hardware VLAN support causing similar issues.  Disabling the hardware VLAN support fixed the problem.

                              Aside from that, I would do the following:

                              • Disable VLANs all together (conf t ; no switchport trunk ; no switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,13,16; no switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q ; no switchport trunk)
                              • Enable the port for static VLAN of 13 (conf t ; switchport host ; switchport access vlan 13)
                              • Ping something in the 13 subnet (assuming you gave pfSense "em0" and ip address in vlan 13)

                              If this works, the pfSense box has good connectivity to your switch and network.  Next:
                              –--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                              • Enable VLANs 13 and 16 (conf t ; no switchport host ; no switchport access vlan 13 ; switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q ; switchport trunk; switchport trunk allowed vlan 13,16)
                              • Set pfSense with the corresponding VLAN  13 and 16 IP addresses
                              • Ping something in both VLANs

                              Let me know what you find.

                              BTW - I specifically left out VLAN1 in the second test case.

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                                vatson
                                last edited by

                                Well, I finally got it working.

                                What I needed to do was set the native VLAN on the trunk port to something other than one of the VLANs which I actually want to connect to pfSense. So I set

                                conf t
                                int gi0/22
                                switchport trunk native vlan 2
                                

                                and everything is working now. VLAN 2 is not actually used anymore on our network, so I'll probably keep it as a "ghost native vlan" for the pfSense uplink port.

                                For future reference, this is my final working port config, for linking VLANs 1, 13 and 16 to pfSense:

                                interface GigabitEthernet0/22
                                 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
                                 switchport trunk native vlan 2
                                 switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,13,16
                                 switchport mode trunk
                                end
                                
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                                • valnarV
                                  valnar
                                  last edited by

                                  @vatson:

                                  VLAN 2 is not actually used anymore on our network, so I'll probably keep it as a "ghost native vlan" for the pfSense uplink port.

                                  Interesting.  I do that for all my Cisco switches as a matter of best practice, but I've never seen it required.

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