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Pfsense-router doesn't show up in traceroute

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved 2.0-RC Snapshot Feedback and Problems - RETIRED
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  • K
    krisken
    last edited by Sep 29, 2010, 5:17 PM

    I've set up a pfsense 2.0 router (IP 10.0.0.1) with 2 WAN's :

    • VDSL-line (ISP Belgacom) and IP 10.1.0.1 on the modem
    • VDSL-line (ISP Schedom) and IP 10.2.0.1 on the modem

    The wifi.office.it2go.eu is my ddwrt-router for my wireless connections.
    That one does come up like it should be on a tracert, but my pfsense router should be on line 2 as rtr-fw01.office.it2go.eu [10.0.0.1].

    Does someone know how to enable that? :)

    Kris

    1    1 ms    3 ms  <1 ms  wifi.office.it2go.eu [192.168.100.1]
      2    3 ms    2 ms    2 ms  10.1.0.1
      3    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms  1.87-182-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.182.87.1]
      4  2528 ms  3788 ms    *    8.241-183-91.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [91.183.241.8]
      5    27 ms    24 ms    24 ms  18.247-183-91.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [91.183.247.18]
      6    33 ms    32 ms    31 ms  bru-22-r7-t7-2.car.belbone.be [80.84.21.166]
      7  194 ms  229 ms  311 ms  bru-11-r6-t2-2.car.belbone.be [80.84.18.140]
      8    32 ms    32 ms    34 ms  94.102.162.204
      9    32 ms    32 ms    32 ms  74.125.50.21
    10    *      43 ms    46 ms  209.85.252.76
    11    40 ms    38 ms    38 ms  216.239.43.123
    12    41 ms    40 ms    39 ms  72.14.239.197
    13    51 ms    39 ms    *    209.85.255.106
    14    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms  ew-in-f104.1e100.net [74.125.77.104]

    1    1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms  wifi.office.it2go.eu [192.168.100.1]
      2    4 ms    1 ms    1 ms  10.2.0.1
      3    19 ms    21 ms    18 ms  gateway.dyn1.namur.schedom-europe.net [83.101.6.1]
      4    22 ms    21 ms    21 ms  atm-26-32.largo-matisse.bru.schedom-europe.net [83.101.0.26]
      5    22 ms    22 ms    22 ms  4-5.r1.br.hwng.net [209.197.1.105]
      6    30 ms    29 ms    29 ms  3-4.r1.am.hwng.net [69.16.191.85]
      7    31 ms    30 ms    36 ms  1-1.r3.am.hwng.net [69.16.191.26]
      8    30 ms    31 ms    31 ms  core1.ams.net.google.com [195.69.144.247]
      9    31 ms    31 ms    36 ms  209.85.248.93
    10    83 ms    58 ms    33 ms  64.233.175.246
    11    35 ms    38 ms    34 ms  72.14.239.199
    12    *        *        *    Time-out bij opdracht.
    13    35 ms    35 ms    38 ms  ew-in-f104.1e100.net [74.125.77.104]

    De trace is voltooid.

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      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
      last edited by Sep 30, 2010, 12:31 PM

      If you use policy routing, pf takes the traffic and sends it out the WAN selected for that connection - it does not stop on the pfSense box as a hop.

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        krisken
        last edited by Oct 1, 2010, 9:39 AM

        @jimp:

        If you use policy routing, pf takes the traffic and sends it out the WAN selected for that connection - it does not stop on the pfSense box as a hop.

        Strange, because before pfsense did show up at the traceroute?

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          inflamer
          last edited by Oct 1, 2010, 9:57 AM Oct 1, 2010, 9:55 AM

          Hi Krisken,

          you would need to add a reverse record (PTR) in your local DNS server for 10.2.0.1 which is resolvable from the PC you are running traceroute on, in order for having the pfsense hop appear as rtr-fw01.office.it2go.eu [10.0.0.1]. Since the 192.168.100.1 hop appears as wifi.office.it2go.eu [192.168.100.1], it seems you already created a PTR record for this address.

          Andreas

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            dragon2611
            last edited by Oct 1, 2010, 10:48 PM

            @inflamer:

            Hi Krisken,

            you would need to add a reverse record (PTR) in your local DNS server for 10.2.0.1 which is resolvable from the PC you are running traceroute on, in order for having the pfsense hop appear as rtr-fw01.office.it2go.eu [10.0.0.1]. Since the 192.168.100.1 hop appears as wifi.office.it2go.eu [192.168.100.1], it seems you already created a PTR record for this address.

            Andreas

            It should still show as an ip address even if the RDNS doesn't resolve.

            Mine shows up, but then i'm not presently using multi-wan for anything.

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            • K
              krisken
              last edited by Oct 2, 2010, 8:38 AM

              All,

              Any idea what option i did checked/non-checked so that my pfsense router don't show up? 
              I think that's the first part of the problem :)

              Kris

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                dragon2611
                last edited by Oct 2, 2010, 2:08 PM

                @krisken:

                All,

                Any idea what option i did checked/non-checked so that my pfsense router don't show up? 
                I think that's the first part of the problem :)

                Kris

                Jimp seems to be suggesting it's because of policy based routing, which may explain things as mine isn't setup to do any policy based routing and is showing up.

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                  inflamer
                  last edited by Oct 4, 2010, 8:59 AM

                  @dragon2611:

                  @inflamer:

                  Hi Krisken,

                  you would need to add a reverse record (PTR) in your local DNS server for 10.2.0.1 which is resolvable from the PC you are running traceroute on, in order for having the pfsense hop appear as rtr-fw01.office.it2go.eu [10.0.0.1]. Since the 192.168.100.1 hop appears as wifi.office.it2go.eu [192.168.100.1], it seems you already created a PTR record for this address.

                  Andreas

                  It should still show as an ip address even if the RDNS doesn't resolve.

                  Mine shows up, but then i'm not presently using multi-wan for anything.

                  In that case I misunderstood, I thought the problem was that 10.1.0.1 was showing up without hostname, but I see now that he is expecting 10.0.0.1 to show up, while it isn't.

                  A

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                    eri--
                    last edited by Oct 4, 2010, 12:46 PM

                    It is correct that pfSense will not show up when used with PBR.
                    Not sure a fix should be done for this or not!

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                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by Oct 4, 2010, 1:51 PM Oct 4, 2010, 12:55 PM

                      An FAQ entry should be enough. I'll add one. I don't think it's worth coding a fix to make it show up.

                      EDIT: FAQ added: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Router_is_Missing_from_traceroute_Output

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                        krisken
                        last edited by Oct 6, 2010, 7:34 PM

                        @jimp:

                        An FAQ entry should be enough. I'll add one. I don't think it's worth coding a fix to make it show up.

                        EDIT: FAQ added: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Router_is_Missing_from_traceroute_Output

                        So if i do understand it all well, that's quite normal and there isn't a solution for it?
                        I tought that my pfsense router did show up in the beginning that i use pfsense.

                        Kris

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                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by Oct 6, 2010, 7:36 PM

                          If you use normal routing, it does show up.

                          If you use policy routing (e.g. selected a gateway in a rule, typically for multi-wan) then it does not show up.

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                            krisken
                            last edited by Oct 6, 2010, 8:06 PM

                            @jimp:

                            If you use normal routing, it does show up.

                            If you use policy routing (e.g. selected a gateway in a rule, typically for multi-wan) then it does not show up.

                            http://krisken.dommel.be/pfsense/rules.jpg
                            So like that…isn't possible?

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                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by Oct 6, 2010, 8:14 PM

                              If you always had gateways set on every rule like that, then pfSense shouldn't have ever shown up as a hop when tracing outbound.

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                                krisken
                                last edited by Oct 6, 2010, 8:30 PM

                                @jimp:

                                If you always had gateways set on every rule like that, then pfSense shouldn't have ever shown up as a hop when tracing outbound.

                                It has always been like that indeed.  So probably i'm wrong :)
                                Thanks for the great help!

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