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    • jimpJ
      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
      last edited by

      Then – as I mentioned before -- make the loader.conf.local changes I suggested. That's what the menu option does, it adds that delay setting.

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        morocon
        last edited by

        ok i will give it a try and come back for feed back.

        regards

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          acjohnson
          last edited by

          I've actually been having the same issue but wanted to search the internet plenty before posting. Glad I waited.

          I have tried the above mentioned fix and it works. I am also using pfsense v2.0 beta 5 and the file on my box was actually /boot/loader.conf

          This file is empty by default and it is there specifically to add overrides to the default loader configuration.

          I am liking the idea of using pfsense to boot off of a flashdrive that is plugged directly to the motherboards usb header using an adapter. This way the flash drive will not get messed with, plus it's almost as good as a solid state drive because it will likely never go bad.

          Seems to me that pfsense loads most of what it does into memory so a slow usb flash drive should affect perf much should it? (besides swap of course)

          Also, will this file be preserved after an update?

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
            last edited by

            Don't touch loader.conf - use loader.conf.local - create it if it does not exist.

            loader.conf.local is not touched by the upgrade process, but loader.conf may be overwritten.

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              morocon
              last edited by

              After a short check, it seems that what i'm looking for is not in loader.conf.

              I took a picture of the menu i would like to modify:

              I would like  menu "3 Boot PFsense Using USB device" to take place as "1 Bot Pfsense [default]". I did not find any mention on this subject in loader.conf.

              Coudl some one put light on this?

              Thanks

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                You cannot change the default of the boot menu in that way.

                I'm not sure how many different ways I can tell you this in the same thread, but you need to edit /boot/loader.conf.local and add

                kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                

                It does not already exist there, you need to add it, not edit the value.

                The boot menu option only sets that variable. Adding it to loader.conf.local sets the value the same way.

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                  morocon
                  last edited by

                  @jimp:

                  You cannot change the default of the boot menu in that way.

                  I'm not sure how many different ways I can tell you this in the same thread, but you need to edit /boot/loader.conf.local and add

                  kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                  

                  It does not already exist there, you need to add it, not edit the value.

                  The boot menu option only sets that variable. Adding it to loader.conf.local sets the value the same way.

                  You could repeat it as long as you want, it doesn't work at all. Same result! If i'm not in front of the computer and select option 3 from the menu, PFsense did not boot up and just comes to prompt waiting for me to give instruction.

                  Delay is not what i'm waiting for…How could i explain you this. I want the device to start on USB hard drive (where Pfsense is installed) even if i do not have keyboard nor screen. If it is not possible just say it.

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    But I'm telling you that all option 3 does it set precisely that variable and nothing else related to bootup. It sets two others but they are related to network cards, not booting. Behold:

                    From our beastie.4th patch that drives the menu:

                    +		dup bootusbkey @ = if
                    +			s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                    +			s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                    +			s" 10000" s" kern.cam.boot_delay" setenv
                    
                    

                    So if you want to try adding the other two to /boot/loader.conf.local as well, try:

                    hw.mca.enabled=0
                    hw.bce.tso_enable=0
                    kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                    

                    Make sure when you edit that file that it's named properly (all lower case letters) and you probably should edit it from the shell with vi or ee to be safest.

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                      acjohnson
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                      morocon-

                      Have you even tried adding these options to the file yet? If you try it you may be pleasantly surprised that it works just as jimp has been telling you.

                      Sorry for causing the confusion with the loader.conf.local file. Didn't realize I had to create it. I have just tested it and it works great.

                      Thank you!

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                        morocon
                        last edited by

                        Yes i have tried! but it did not boot on USB drive

                        here is my beastie start section, i suspect something wrong in it

                        
                        : beastie-start
                        	s" beastie_disable" getenv
                        	dup -1 <> if
                        		s" YES" compare-insensitive 0= if
                        			exit
                        		then
                        	else
                        		drop
                        	then
                        	beastie-menu
                        	s" autoboot_delay" getenv
                        	dup -1 = if
                        		drop
                        		10
                        	else
                        		0 0 2swap >number drop drop drop
                        	then
                        	begin
                        		dup tkey
                        		0 25 at-xy
                        		dup 32 = if nip 0 swap then
                        		dup -1 = if 0 boot then
                        		dup 13 = if 0 boot then
                        		dup bootkey @ = if 0 boot then
                        		dup bootacpikey @ = if
                        			acpienabled? if
                        				s" acpi_load" unsetenv
                        				s" 1" s" hint.acpi.0.disabled" setenv
                        				s" 1" s" loader.acpi_disabled_by_user" setenv
                        				s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                        				s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                        			else
                        				s" YES" s" acpi_load" setenv
                        				s" 0" s" hint.acpi.0.disabled" setenv
                                                        s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                                                        s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                        			then
                        			0 boot
                        		then
                        		dup bootsafekey @ = if
                        			s" arch-i386" environment? if
                        				drop
                        				s" acpi_load" unsetenv
                        				s" 1" s" hint.acpi.0.disabled" setenv
                        				s" 1" s" loader.acpi_disabled_by_user" setenv
                        				s" 1" s" hint.apic.0.disabled" setenv
                                                        s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                                                        s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                        			then
                        			s" 0" s" hw.ata.ata_dma" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.ata.atapi_dma" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.ata.wc" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.eisa_slots" setenv
                        			s" 1" s" hint.kbdmux.0.disabled" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                        			0 boot
                        		then
                        		dup bootusbkey @ = if
                        			s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                        			s" 10000" s" kern.cam.boot_delay" setenv
                        			0 boot
                        		then
                        		dup bootverbosekey @ = if
                        			s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                        			s" YES" s" boot_verbose" setenv
                        			0 boot
                        		then
                        		dup bootsinglekey @ = if
                        			s" 0" s" hw.mca.enabled" setenv
                        			s" 0" s" hw.bce.tso_enable" setenv
                        			s" YES" s" boot_single" setenv
                        			0 boot
                        		then
                        		dup escapekey @ = if
                        			2drop
                        			s" NO" s" autoboot_delay" setenv
                        			exit
                        		then
                        		rebootkey @ = if 0 reboot then
                        	again
                        ;
                        
                        previous
                        

                        I'm not confident with freebsd bash coding, but i suposed somewhere at the beginning of this section is defined what dup menu will be loaded as default. I would like ti to be bootusbkey. Unfortunatly, and even with modification you recommended, it doesn't start, but just come to a prompt that talk about vfs.mountfrom.options whish should have been set to read write.

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Nothing is wrong with that. As you can see the section I posted is within the part you posted (mine just had the +'s because it was from a patch file not the actual file, and I trimmed the surrounding irrelevant text).

                          If the menu option worked but adding it to loader.conf.local does not, then you must not be putting the right values into loader.conf.local or the file isn't in the right place, or something else must be wrong.

                          Further, you need to give exact precise error messages and not "a prompt that talk about vfs.mountfrom.options". Take a cell phone picture of the screen if you have to, but be precise.

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                            morocon
                            last edited by

                            here it is:

                            http://pfsensepict.dyndns.org

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                            • jimpJ
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by

                              Sure that's the right URL?

                              Host pfsensepict.dyndns.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
                              

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                                morocon
                                last edited by

                                oops, try again, it should be working now that i activated it! :)

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                                • jimpJ
                                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  Remove this from /boot/loader.conf and /boot/loader.conf.local

                                  autoboot_delay="3"
                                  

                                  It probably is ignoring the other lines because it says there is a syntax error on that line.

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                                    morocon
                                    last edited by

                                    Thaanks, do you have a sample of how it should be written?

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                                    • jimpJ
                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      /boot/loader.conf should probably be empty.

                                      And if you want to mimic option 3 exactly, /boot/loader.conf.local should only contain:

                                      hw.mca.enabled=0
                                      hw.bce.tso_enable=0
                                      kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                                      

                                      Nothing else.

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                                        morocon
                                        last edited by

                                        @jimp:

                                        /boot/loader.conf should probably be empty.

                                        And if you want to mimic option 3 exactly, /boot/loader.conf.local should only contain:

                                        hw.mca.enabled=0
                                        hw.bce.tso_enable=0
                                        kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                                        

                                        Nothing else.

                                        Ok i will do so.

                                        I found a file call loader.conf (<>loader.conf.local)where the " autoboot_delay="3" " is writen, what should i do with this one?

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                                        • jimpJ
                                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          Remove it from both files.

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                                            morocon
                                            last edited by

                                            @jimp:

                                            Remove it from both files.

                                            You are the hitman jimp!

                                            Ok i guess there was some thing wrong in my usb drive, so i decided to start from scrash and re-install f sense on it.

                                            Then i create the file /boot/loader.conf/local (as you recommended it) including

                                            hw.mca.enabled=0
                                            hw.bce.tso_enable=0
                                            kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                                            

                                            Then reboot, then….Miracle! It works!!

                                            Thanks guys

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