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    Upgrade from 12/13 to 12/18 -> PPPoE dead…

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved 2.0-RC Snapshot Feedback and Problems - RETIRED
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      jlepthien
      last edited by

      I never had problems with PPPoE when I disabled the additional OPT…

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        _igor_
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        i'll try with assigning the WAN as OPT and report back.

        report:

        I assigned my WAN-if as OPT, but nothing more. Didn't assign anything to that if.
        rebooted pfSense.
        After reboot my PPPOE connected as normal. No problems. Connection was made automatically.

        At advanced options of my PPPOE nothing is activated. So no "Dial on demand", no "idle tieout", nothing ticked.
        My WAN-if is xl0, an old 3com in a dell home-pc. Its an onboard-card. Hope that helps. If you want some more testing from my side, tell me. What i see, the problems with PPPOE are in my case gone.

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          gnhb
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          @clarknova:

          I just updated to last snap from 1/21 and still have to manually connect.

          Are you using OPTX interface(s) for modem management? I just committed an update that will prevent detachment of netgraph nodes on interfaces that are used by PPPoE and also configured as an OPTX interface (netgraph nodes are necessary on interfaces that are used by PPPoE/PPTP/L2TP/MLPPP)

          The way the code is was written before, it would detach the netgraph node from the underlying interface if you assigned that same physical interface to OPTX.

          Warning . . . my update is untested since I don't have access to my PPPoE link right now (I'm away from home). . .

          @_igor_: the problem doesn't have anything to do with whether your WAN link is called WAN or OPTx, it's related to having PPPoE configured on a physical interface (e.g. em0) and having OPTx configured on the same physical interface (e.g. em0).

          In future posts, everyone please state if you have configured the same physical interface for both PPPoE/MLPPP/PPTP/L2TP (WAN) and OPTx(static/dynamic) (e.g. for modem management.)

          Thanks,
          GB

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            clarknova
            last edited by

            OPT6-OPT13 (vlans on em0) – mlppp WAN + static (modem subnets)

            @gnhb:

            Are you using OPTX interface(s) for modem management?

            Yes. I have no choice because said interfaces are vlan interfaces, and they aren't eligible for inclusion in the mlppp bundle without first assigning them IP info and activating them.

            I just committed an update that will prevent detachment of netgraph nodes on interfaces that are used by PPPoE and also configured as an OPTX interface (netgraph nodes are necessary on interfaces that are used by PPPoE/PPTP/L2TP/MLPPP)

            So if I understand you correctly your fix won't work for me because I'm using mlppp. Is that correct?

            I'll try your fix if you think there's a chance of it working, or I can get you LAN access to this install if you want to investigate some. The biggest inconvenience there is that it would have to be between midnight and 7 am MST, as I have a lot of daytime users.

            db

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              _igor_
              last edited by

              In future posts, everyone please state if you have configured the same physical interface for both PPPoE/MLPPP/PPTP/L2TP (WAN) and OPTx(static/dynamic) (e.g. for modem management.)

              To clear it up:

              XL0 is my PPPOE-interface.
              So i assigned that same interface xl0 as OPT-interface. Thats what i was speaking about and what i understood which created the problem. If that is wrong, excuse me. Maybe i was not clear enough too.
              Due to the fact that i don't use the same interface for other things as PPPOE may be that simple assigning is only the half of the problem. The other half could be an assigned vlan to the same physical interface, right?

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                gnhb
                last edited by

                @clarknova:

                So if I understand you correctly your fix won't work for me because I'm using mlppp. Is that correct?

                No, the fix should work for you and everyone else with this problem. :)

                @_igor_: Okay, I mis-understood your last post . . .

                GB

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                  romainp
                  last edited by

                  Seems better with the lastest snap from the 23th. I will test further.

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                    romainp
                    last edited by

                    Still working on 2.0-BETA5 (i386) built on Sun Jan 23 10:30:03 EST 2011.

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                      clarknova
                      last edited by

                      2.0-BETA5 (amd64)
                      built on Mon Jan 24 06:17:59 EST 2011

                      mlppp on vlans
                      vlans configured for modem access

                      No change here, still have to manually connect.

                      db

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                      • jimpJ
                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by

                        I bet the code is still detaching netgraph from the parent interface of the VLANs in your case, and the current fixes just got it one level closer.

                        The code probably needs to take even more things into account, because in theory someone could have:

                        pppoe0 on lagg0_vlan1 on lagg0 on em0, etc, etc. It needs to walk all the way back until it hits a real physical interface.

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                          clarknova
                          last edited by

                          Yeah, I have

                          pppoe>OPTx>vlanx>em1

                          db

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                            jlepthien
                            last edited by

                            Just updated to the latest snap and "my" problem of this thread is gone! Hooray ;-)
                            I have vr0 set as OPT for modem access and as a PPPoE interface.
                            Updated to latest snap, rebooted and everything worked fine. This includes all my package updates! Yeah!

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                              gnhb
                              last edited by

                              @jimp:

                              I bet the code is still detaching netgraph from the parent interface of the VLANs in your case, and the current fixes just got it one level closer.

                              pppoe0 on lagg0_vlan1 on lagg0 on em0, etc, etc. It needs to walk all the way back until it hits a real physical interface.

                              Your right on both counts. :) This is a pain IMO . . .

                              Maybe we should consider the reverse strategy, which is to allow netgraph to attach every node by default and detach ones where the node adversely effects interface performance. Is that feasible? Is there a way to identify such interfaces easily?

                              I'm curious about the motivation for the change to detaching the nodes. Did some customer or user experience some performance increase due to detaching the netgraph nodes?

                              GB

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Ermal would be the one to know for sure. He says detaching netgraph from interfaces that don't need it improves performance a bit. I'm not sure if anyone has run the numbers, but the way it is now we've outpaced a $40k checkpoint firewall :-)
                                (Search the forum, someone posted benchmarks)

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                                  gnhb
                                  last edited by

                                  New stuff committed to try to address clarknova's config. I think is might still use some work. As before, I can't test with PPPoE right now so it might not work.

                                  GB

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                                    clarknova
                                    last edited by

                                    2.0-BETA5 (amd64)
                                    built on Tue Jan 25 07:56:16 EST 2011

                                    Spontaneous connection! Thank you, and well done.

                                    db

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                                      gnhb
                                      last edited by

                                      Nice! :)

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                                        sburgiel
                                        last edited by

                                        I have no problem with my PPPoE DSL WAN link connecting, using the latest snapshots and having an OPTx interface configured for managing my DSL modem.  Thank you! ;D

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                                          jlepthien
                                          last edited by

                                          Oh boy this is soooo annoying. With the latest snap of today it is broken again. Box takes 'forever' to get connected via PPPoE…that is so lame and we are on RC status now. Why do things like this brake? I will stay on a 'stable' RC now and let some other guys do the testing. This is getting old...

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                                            eri--
                                            last edited by

                                            I do not think anybody touched that code.
                                            You sure its something you did or a pacakge did?

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