Services Status -NTPD- Reversed

LostInIgnorance

root   12897  0.0  0.2  3656   872  ??  IN   10:32PM   0:00.02 /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/ntpdate_sync_once.sh
root   17460  0.0  0.2  3504  1084  ??  IN   10:32PM   0:00.24 ntpdate -s -t 5 0.pfsense.pool.ntp.org
root   22432  0.0  0.2  3524   996  u0  S+   11:31AM   0:00.01 grep ntp

jimp

How far off from the current clock is that 10:32? It's odd that ntpdate would be stuck there but I ahve seen it do that before. It's supposed to stop itself after 5 seconds, but sometimes doesn't.

Anything in the system log from ntpdate?

I'm going to be replacing ntpdate with just running ntpd with -s instead. Might clear everything up but will take a little work to pull off.

iFloris

Jimp, I've been seeing the same (not running / inverted status).

The output of "ps uxawww | grep ntp" on my machine is:

$ ps uxawww | grep ntp
root    48849  0.0  0.6  3656  1416  ??  S     6:55PM   0:00.00 sh -c ps uxawww | grep ntp
root    49007  0.0  0.5  3524  1252  ??  S     6:55PM   0:00.00 grep ntp
root    54158  0.0  0.6  3656  1364  ??  IN   10:34AM   0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/ntpdate_sync_once.sh
root    56211  0.0  0.6  3504  1356  ??  SN   10:34AM   0:00.20 ntpdate 193.79.237.14 193.79.237.30 1.nl.pool.ntp.org 0.nl.pool.ntp.org 0.pfsense.pool.ntp.org0
root    25863  0.0  0.6  3656  1404  u0- S    10:34AM   0:05.94 /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/ntpdate_sync_once.sh

As for the time 10:34AM, it's 19:00 (7PM) right now.

LostInIgnorance

the 10:32PM is way off, the 11:31A is pretty much exact.

jimp

ok, so it's been stuck for quite a while.

LostInIgnorance

yeah, been stuck since i updated the firewall last night. whats weird is if I uncheck the box, it shows running under services and gives me this as an output for that command

root   55531  1.0  0.2  3316  1052  ??  Ss   12:14PM   0:00.00 ntpd: [priv] (ntpd)
root   12897  0.0  0.2  3656   808  ??  IN   10:32PM   0:00.02 /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/ntpdate_sync_once.sh
root   17460  0.0  0.2  3504   828  ??  IN   10:32PM   0:00.26 ntpdate -s -t 5 0.pfsense.pool.ntp.org
_ntp   55364  0.0  0.2  3316  1060  ??  S    12:14PM   0:00.01 ntpd: ntp engine (ntpd)
root   34601  0.0  0.1  1848   536  u0  R+   12:15PM   0:00.00 grep ntp

the 12:15 is dead on!

jimp

Yes, when ntpdate_sync_once.sh runs it kills ntpd, syncs the time, and then restarts ntpd. If it gets stuck in the sync part, then it never restarts ntpd.

This is going to change here shortly, though. Don't bother investigating any more just yet.

LostInIgnorance

Sweet, thanks pfSense team.

jimp

Try to apply this change (or wait for a new snap dated after this post):

https://rcs.pfsense.org/projects/pfsense/repos/mainline/commits/cd11a1426d3c140918a74cb7e3efc500644e220c

LostInIgnorance

Reboot after making changes?

jimp

That would be an ideal test, yes. At least kill all ntp and ntpdate processes and then edit/save the OpenNTPD settings.

Though a reboot would be the most accurate test.

LostInIgnorance

Showing running on the services menu after making changes and rebooting.

Output of: "ps uxawww | grep ntp"

_ntp   53655  0.0  0.2  3316  1256  ??  S     2:50PM   0:00.01 ntpd: ntp engine (ntpd)
root   53981  0.0  0.3  3316  1280  ??  Ss    2:50PM   0:00.00 ntpd: [priv] (ntpd)
root   10769  0.0  0.2  3524  1096  u0  S+    2:52PM   0:00.01 grep ntp

iFloris

After updating to the latest snap, all is green on my machine.
Thanks a lot jimp!

jimp

Should be good then, ntpd should always be running now, no ntpdate at all anymore.

AhnHEL

Yes! Finally my network feels like Utopia again, many thanks JimP.