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    HEADS UP: Textdumps coming in next snapshots to aid debugging

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved 2.0-RC Snapshot Feedback and Problems - RETIRED
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      dszp
      last edited by

      Thanks, I saw that right after my above post and already have half a post typed up :-)

      David Szpunar

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        rcfa
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        Great! May I suggest an auto-rotate feature, where the numbered dumps are archival copies with the highest number being the oldest log?

        This way dumping a log doesn't require messing with file names, it's always going to be the one without number, while the proper re-numbering happens during the system reboot.

        More importantly: this allows to set a limit on how many are archived, such that any dumps exceeding that number are being deleted in the same swoop. Otherwise there is a chance that a not too generously measured system disk fills up with these dumps with unsuspecting users…

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by

          Well this feature isn't going to stick with the normal kernels upon release, only the dev kernels.

          Adding some kind of rotation might be OK (or just a symlink to the newest one would be best) but for something that is hopefully a very rare occurrence it may not be worth the effort.

          The way they are numbered now is handled by the savecore utility and that isn't something we'd want to start making custom changes it, it's just the way it works on FreeBSD. Anything we come along and change after savecore is done may alter the behavior of savecore as well… Unless we move the crash info to somewhere else (like /root/crash/) and always leave /var empty after savecore is run.

          Might look into doing that at some point, but it sounds like a fair amount of effort for not a lot of gain.

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            wallabybob
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            I installed 2.0-BETA5 (i386)
            built on Thu Jan 27 20:55:04 EST 2011 (manual upgrade from build on 1 Jan 2011) and it crashed a few hours after installation. It stopped at bt> prompt so I gave the command call doadump to write a crash dump. On reboot I saw savecore report it was writing a crash dump. I now have a vmcore.0 in /var/crash but no textdump.tar.0.

            Something gone wrong?

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            • jimpJ
              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
              last edited by

              Sounds like the textdump code didn't initiate the ddb scripts like it should. No other errors in the boot log (way at the top before the message about writing out the core)

              Though there are newer snapshots out now, they may behave differently.

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                wallabybob
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                @jimp:

                No other errors in the boot log (way at the top before the message about writing out the core)

                It should be in /var/log/system.log? It wasn't in the dmesg output. /var/log/system.log went back only 8 hours (it was full of the once a minute noise from hostapd: group key handshake completed).

                Looks like a "significant" sysctl variable got set on reload:

                sysctl -a | grep panic

                kern.sync_on_panic: 0
                kdb.enter.panic=textdump set; capture on; run lockinfo; show pcpu; bt; ps; alltrace; capture off; call doadump; reset
                debug.ddb.textdump.do_panic: 1
                debug.trace_on_panic: 0
                debug.debugger_on_panic: 1
                debug.kdb.panic: 0
                machdep.enable_panic_key: 0
                machdep.panic_on_nmi: 1

                Maybe I'll upgrade to a newer snapshot in the next couple of days.

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  No, the console errors I'm talking about would be way before the system log starts, they would have been echo'd to the console, not syslog.

                  From those sysctls it looks like it should have been OK though.

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                    wallabybob
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                    I recently upgraded one of my home systems to pfSense 2.0-RC1 (i386) built on Mon Apr 18 23:29:41 EDT 2011. Since enabling Captive Portal I've had a few panics (kernel page faults). On every occasion the system entered the debugger displaying the dbg> prompt. I type bt and call doadump but on reboot I have not seen any textdump.tar files in /var/crash:

                    ls -l /var/crash

                    total 167018
                    -rw-r–r--  1 root  wheel        2 Apr 22 20:31 bounds
                    -rw-------  1 root  wheel      485 Apr 19 23:04 info.0
                    -rw-------  1 root  wheel      485 Apr 22 20:22 info.1
                    -rw-------  1 root  wheel      486 Apr 22 20:31 info.2
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel        5 Apr 19 13:20 minfree
                    -rw-------  1 root  wheel  68562944 Apr 19 23:04 vmcore.0
                    -rw-------  1 root  wheel  51036160 Apr 22 20:22 vmcore.1
                    -rw-------  1 root  wheel  71602176 Apr 22 20:31 vmcore.2

                    more /var/crash/info.2

                    Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b
                      Architecture: i386
                      Architecture Version: 2
                      Dump Length: 71602176B (68 MB)
                      Blocksize: 512
                      Dumptime: Fri Apr 22 20:23:32 2011
                      Hostname: pfsense2.example.org
                      Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
                      Version String: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2 #1: Mon Apr 18 23:21:20 EDT 2011
                        sullrich@FreeBSD_8.0_pfSense_2.0-snaps.pfsense.org:/usr/obj.pfSense/usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense.8
                      Panic String:
                      Dump Parity: 2021776436
                      Bounds: 2
                      Dump Status: good

                    The following sysctl variables are set:

                    sysctl -a | grep panic

                    kern.sync_on_panic: 0
                    kdb.enter.panic=textdump set; capture on; run lockinfo; show pcpu; bt; ps; alltrace; capture off; call doadump; reset
                    debug.ddb.textdump.do_panic: 1
                    debug.trace_on_panic: 0
                    debug.debugger_on_panic: 1
                    debug.kdb.panic: 0
                    machdep.enable_panic_key: 0
                    machdep.panic_on_nmi: 1

                    On reading the textdump man page it looks as if I also need to do:

                    sysctl debug.ddb.textdump.pending=1

                    debug.ddb.textdump.pending: 0 -> 1

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      For some reason certain systems (haven't been able to figure out which) aren't making proper textdumps. If they happen, they should be happening automatically. Try switching to a debug kernel to see if that helps:

                      http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Switching_Kernels

                      If not, switch back to the SMP kernel afterward.

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                        wallabybob
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                        The system crashed again with a kernel page fault at the same PC. Despite having set debug.ddb.textdump.pending=1 it didn't reboot automatically so Ityped in the commands in kdb.enter.panic one per line and then on reboot savecore reported it was writing textdump.tar.

                        This system has a VIA C3 CPU and is running

                        dmesg

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                        FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2 #1: Mon Apr 18 23:21:20 EDT 2011
                            sullrich@FreeBSD_8.0_pfSense_2.0-snaps.pfsense.org:/usr/obj.pfSense/usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense.8 i386
                        Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
                        CPU: VIA Samuel 2 (797.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
                          Origin = "CentaurHauls"  Id = 0x673  Family = 6  Model = 7  Stepping = 3
                          Features=0x803035 <fpu,de,tsc,msr,mtrr,pge,mmx>real memory  = 268435456 (256 MB)</fpu,de,tsc,msr,mtrr,pge,mmx>

                        I'll switch to a debug kernel as suggested.

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