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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved 2.0-RC Snapshot Feedback and Problems - RETIRED
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      thespazz
      last edited by

      Hi all,

      I have a stock 2.0 release (upgraded to latest snapshot, as always) with no other packages installed. I've only enabled UPNP and NAT-PMP and changed the lan net from 192.168.1.x to 10.6.0.x.

      I can VNC to computers in the LAN, I can see shared iTunes libraries in the LAN, but I cannot connect to shared folders. I'm using OS X to connect to my Windows 7 computer and it always fails. This worked under my last router (dlink dir-655) without hassle.

      Am I missing a setting? I've been tearing my hair out trying to search the net and most results have to do with accessing shares over VPN. I just want to access on my network.

      Thanks guys.

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        Nachtfalke
        last edited by

        if both systems are on the same subnet 10.0.6.x/24 then the traffic will not use pfsense.
        if the systems are on different subnets, what firewall rules did you use?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          ^ exactly your pfsense box has nothing to do with traffic on the same lan.

          UPnP and NAT-PMP has nothing to do with lan traffic either.

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            thespazz
            last edited by

            @Nachtfalke:

            if both systems are on the same subnet 10.0.6.x/24 then the traffic will not use pfsense.
            if the systems are on different subnets, what firewall rules did you use?

            They are on the same subnet. I guess it's a problem with my Windows 7 box, then.

            Why did it work with my old router, but not with pfsense?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              Did you change your network on your software firewalls, did they use to be 192.168.x.x and you changed them to 10.x.x.x ?  Or were they running the 10.x network before?

              When windows 7 sees a new network, it classifies it for its firewall - should of asked you, is network public or home, etc.  If thinks it unknown or public then windows 7 would block access to file shares for sure.

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                thespazz
                last edited by

                UUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHH. It had auto-assigned public. Back to Home and working. :)

                Edit: So now I can access servers by IP, but cannot access by hostname. Any tips on this?

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Are you trying to broadcast for them, use dns what?

                  from a command line what do you get when you ping hostname of computer, example

                  C:\Windows\System32>ping p4-28g

                  Pinging p4-28g.local.lan [192.168.1.4] with 32 bytes of data:
                  Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
                  Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
                  Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

                  See how it resolved to fqdn there.

                  What happens with your machine?  Do you want to use dns or just broadcast?  You may have to enabled netbios over tcp, look at output of ipconfig /all

                  example

                  C:\Windows\System32>ipconfig /all

                  Windows IP Configuration

                  Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : quad-w7
                    Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : local.lan
                  **  Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid**
                    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan

                  Ethernet adapter gig:

                  Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
                    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
                    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-9B-03-AC-A7
                    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:470:snipped:b85::666(Preferred)
                    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::794f:b5ca:8dc7:92d7%10(Preferred)
                    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100(Preferred)
                    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2001:470:1f11:b85::1
                                                        fe80::209:5bff:fee2:ccdb%10
                                                        192.168.1.253
                    DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234889627
                    DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-99-CA-17-00-21-9B-03-AC-A7
                    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:470:snipped:b85::1
                                                        192.168.1.253
                  **  NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled**

                  Also look at your node type - if sent in wrong mode it will not broadcast but only ask wins server, seen this on machines coming from schools where they were in P-node and would never broadcast.

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                    thespazz
                    last edited by

                    I have node type hyrbid as well as netbios over tcpip enabled. What is the difference between using broadcast or dns? I'm pretty sure I'm using broadcast.

                    edit: when trying to ping by hostname, it failed to find the host. pinging by IP works splendid.

                    edit2: to clarify, i do NOT have my own DNS servers.

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                      thespazz
                      last edited by

                      bump

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                        wallabybob
                        last edited by

                        @thespazz:

                        I have node type hyrbid as well as netbios over tcpip enabled. What is the difference between using broadcast or dns? I'm pretty sure I'm using broadcast.

                        edit: when trying to ping by hostname, it failed to find the host. pinging by IP works splendid.

                        edit2: to clarify, i do NOT have my own DNS servers.

                        If you don't have your own DNS servers then what are you expecting will translate a hostname given to ping into an IP address?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Is there no way of getting pfSense to translate hostnames to IPs based on it's dhcp table?

                          Steve

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                          • GruensFroeschliG
                            GruensFroeschli
                            last edited by

                            Yes there is.
                            But you have to enable it under:
                            Services –> DNS forwarder
                            Enable the checkbox: "Register DHCP leases in DNS forwarder"

                            If your devices on the LAN use the pfSense as DNS server, it will resolve the DNS names for them.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              "then what are you expecting will translate a hostname given to ping into an IP address?"

                              Well if netbios over tcp/ip is enabled and not blocked by firewall and node type set to allow for broadcast.  And devices are on the same segment what will happen is a windows machine will broadcast for the name.  Now will some other non windows machine answer this I have no idea.

                              http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727005.aspx
                              Local broadcast

                              Up to three NetBIOS Name Query Request messages are broadcast on the local subnet to resolve the IPv4 address of a specified NetBIOS name.

                              Can do a network capture and show you these packets.  But just because your machine puts them on the wire, does not mean the other machine will answer.

                              You could also setup host or lmhost file to resolve your hostnames to ip, if your not wanting to use dns.  But as mentioned you have a dns server right at your fingertips - your pfsense box, more than capable of resolving your your local hosts for you.

                              here you go is my windows machine broadcasting for a test123 machine.  Nothing answers of course, but here is what goes out on the wire when a windows machines falls to broadcasting for netbios names.

                              broadcastfor.jpg
                              broadcastfor.jpg_thumb

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                @GruensFroeschli:

                                Yes there is.

                                
                                C:\Documents and Settings\Steve>ping voip841
                                
                                Pinging voip841.fire.box [192.168.3.2] with 32 bytes of data:
                                
                                Reply from 192.168.3.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63
                                
                                

                                Sweet!  ;D

                                Steve

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