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    PfSense on re-purposed Firebox or other like hardware w/ Gigabit

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    • stephenw10S Offline
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Only the X-Peak (X5000, X6000 and X8000) has Intel NICs. It has 3 Gigabit and 6 10/100, all Intel.

      The newer X-E boxes have 8 Gigabit NICs (except the X550e which has 4) but they are Marvel. They are supported by pfSense. Some boxes had 4 fibre NICs but I have no information on those.

      The X-peak is easiest to setup. The X-e boxes require a bios change but it is well documented.

      Steve

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        gaping46and2
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        @stephenw10:

        Only the X-Peak (X5000, X6000 and X8000) has Intel NICs. It has 3 Gigabit and 6 10/100, all Intel.

        The newer X-E boxes have 8 Gigabit NICs (except the X550e which has 4) but they are Marvel. They are supported by pfSense. Some boxes had 4 fibre NICs but I have no information on those.

        The X-peak is easiest to setup. The X-e boxes require a bios change but it is well documented.

        Steve

        Thanks, Steve!  It looks like I should be looking for one of the X-Peak models, but they seem to be fairly difficult to find on ebay, are there any other reliable sources? There seems to be a greater number of the X-E models.  There seems to be a relatively wide range of prices for both the X-Peak and X-E models, though. What gives?

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Well when you originally paid £10,000 for a piece of equipment it's hard to put it on Ebay for £50.  ;)

          The X-E boxes are still supported by Watchguard so may still have valid software etc making them more valuable.

          Steve

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            ddavis
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            The Fireboxes still suffer from watchdog timeouts due to the Realtek nics, correct?

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            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              It's hard to say for certain.
              What can be said is that only the X-Core (x500, x700, x1000) models have Realtek NICs and that many people are using them without any problems with a current snapshot.
              It seems to be largely dependent on what equipment you have connected to them and how much tarffic you're trying to push. I don't have access to one at the moment.

              Steve

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                gaping46and2
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                Looking more like I'll be getting an X-Core-E box, but I may have a problem.  Looking through the X550e Thread, this post:

                http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,20095.msg190456.html#msg190456

                states I'll be needing a null modem cable to get through the bios work around. What would be the best solution if I didn't have a computer with a serial port?  Would this TrendNet serial to USB adapter work:

                http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Serial-Converter-TU-S9-Blue/dp/B0007T27H8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

                Also, going through the serial port, would I still need to set up the keyboard on the firebox unit, or would I be making any alterations through the terminal program?

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                  fastcon68
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                  I never had any issues with time outs on my x-500 (all realtec nics).  The only reason I replaced it with a x-6000 was the performance improvement.  I have unique requirements for my home networks and the use of VPN's for business and personal reasons.
                  RC

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    You can use a USB to serial converter for console access.
                    You don't need a keyboard attached to the firebox, everything is done via a terminal program.

                    Steve

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                      Unubtanium
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                      HI gaping46and2

                      Just a bit of info 2 u, i just got my x550e up and running yesterday with a 512mb cf card and th 2.0 rc3 img and did not have to do anything in the bios.  And i added the expansion card from a dead x1250e to it and all runs fine now.

                      Wish you the best with pfsense and watchguard, it is a good combo, have been running x700 with 1.2.3 on cf now for as long as i can remember and have not had any problems.

                      It is just power up, config and forget (Almost, needs updating some times) ;D  ;D

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                        gaping46and2
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                        @Unubtanium:

                        HI gaping46and2

                        Just a bit of info 2 u, i just got my x550e up and running yesterday with a 512mb cf card and th 2.0 rc3 img and did not have to do anything in the bios.  And i added the expansion card from a dead x1250e to it and all runs fine now.

                        Wish you the best with pfsense and watchguard, it is a good combo, have been running x700 with 1.2.3 on cf now for as long as i can remember and have not had any problems.

                        It is just power up, config and forget (Almost, needs updating some times) ;D  ;D

                        I should be getting my x750e in sometime today. I've got a 4gb CF card w/ 2.0 rc3 already installed and steve's bios image installed on a 64mb card, and that serial to usb cable I linked to up above. So, I think I should be good to go and be up and running pfsense this evening.

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                          Unubtanium
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                          I think you are as ready as you can be  ;D

                          Now of to finaly let my old x500 take a break and let my new x550e take over(Network heart transplant starting)

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                            gaping46and2
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                            Not ready enough, apparently.  I just realized the USB to Serial adapter I have is a male serial connection. Hopefully Micro Center or Fry's has a Female to Female adapter that I can pick up tomorrow during lunch.

                            On another note, apparently the box I got was supposed to already had pfsense installed onto a 4gb CF card, but it doesn't seem to be booting properly.  It passes the memory test and gets to the Booting OS… dialog on the front LCD, then a few seconds later the 4,5,6,7 LEDs flash in sequence followed by 0,1,2,3. After that, it doesn't seem to do anything else.  I can see the Storage LED on the front lights up during the boot process, but after the link LEDs blink in sequence, nothing happens.  Any ideas?

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                              Unubtanium
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                              @gaping46and2:

                              It passes the memory test and gets to the Booting OS… dialog on the front LCD, then a few seconds later the 4,5,6,7 LEDs flash in sequence followed by 0,1,2,3. After that, it doesn't seem to do anything else.  I can see the Storage LED on the front lights up during the boot process, but after the link LEDs blink in sequence, nothing happens.  Any ideas?

                              Do you have a pcie graphics card ??  If so i would recommend hocking it up and have a proper look at at the bootup and see on what and where it hangs/crashes

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