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    • J Offline
      jdetmold
      last edited by

      i would install mbmon

      if your running embedded u need to make it rw first if not just run the "pkg_add -r mbmon" command

      
/etc/rc.conf_mount_rw
pkg_add -r mbmon
/etc/rc.conf_mount_ro

      then run this to display stats

      
/usr/local/bin/mbmon -I

      it will just loop and keep displaying until you hit <control><c>hope that works</c></control>

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      • CNLiberalC Offline
        CNLiberal
        last edited by

        jdetmold:

        Thanks for your response!  I ran the following commands, however, it doesn't look like my mobo is supported.  Odd as it's an Intel chipset.

        
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(1): pkg_add -r mbmon
Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/mbmon.tbz... Done.
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(2): /usr/local/bin/mbmon -I
No ISA-IO HWM available!!
InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(3):

        It's just so odd that it doesn't happen regularly.  I've ordered a SATA to CF flash adapter, so I'm hoping that taking the HDD out will lower the heat in there.  Thanks for your idea!  Am I just out of luck?

        Jim

        pfSense 2.7.2-RELEASE

        Dell R210 II
        Intel E3-1340 v2
        8GB RAM
        SSD ZFS Mirror
        Intel X520-DA2, RJ45 SFP+ (WAN) and 10Gb SFP+ DAC (LAN)
        1 x Cisco 3850 12XS-S (Core Switch)
        2 x Cisco 3750X PoE Gig Switch (Access Stack)
        3 x Cisco 2802i APs (Mobility Express)

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          mbmon can use other meathods to talk to a sensor, try 'mbmon -d' to look for other chips.

          It probably won't work though as you won't have any smbus drivers loaded, unless you've altered stuff.

          You could try one of the other hardware monitoring programs though.

          Try the superiotool package to see which superio chip you have (usually what monitors temperature).

          Steve

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          • CNLiberalC Offline
            CNLiberal
            last edited by

            After doing a quick search on the "Tubes", I found someone else with the same issue.  So I ran the following commands:

            
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(1): /usr/local/bin/mbmon -I
No ISA-IO HWM available!!
InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(2): /usr/local/bin/mbmon -d
Using ISA-IO access method!!
* Winbond Chip W83627HF/THF/THF-A found.
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(3): /usr/local/bin/mbmon 

Temp.= 46.0, 55.0, 127.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 46.0, 55.0, 127.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69
^C
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(4):

            I'm taking this to mean that the temperatures are actually being detected (~55C).  I don't know what the other numbers mean (55, 127.5).  I'm guessing 127.5 is the max, and 46 the low, but those are guesses.

            pfSense 2.7.2-RELEASE

            Dell R210 II
            Intel E3-1340 v2
            8GB RAM
            SSD ZFS Mirror
            Intel X520-DA2, RJ45 SFP+ (WAN) and 10Gb SFP+ DAC (LAN)
            1 x Cisco 3850 12XS-S (Core Switch)
            2 x Cisco 3750X PoE Gig Switch (Access Stack)
            3 x Cisco 2802i APs (Mobility Express)

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            • CNLiberalC Offline
              CNLiberal
              last edited by

              I happened to catch the router doing it's fan thing.  Here is what mbmon shows.

              
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(4): /usr/local/bin/mbmon

Temp.= 46.0, 55.0, 127.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 46.0, 54.5, 127.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 46.0, 54.0, 127.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 46.0, 53.5, 127.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 45.0, 53.0, 127.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 45.0, 53.0, 127.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 45.0, 53.0, 125.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 45.0, 52.5, 124.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 45.0, 52.0, 122.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 44.0, 51.5, 121.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 44.0, 51.0, 120.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 44.0, 50.5, 119.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 44.0, 50.5, 117.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 50.5, 116.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 49.5, 115.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 49.5, 114.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 49.0, 112.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 49.0, 111.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 49.0, 110.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 48.0, 109.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 48.5, 108.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 43.0, 48.0, 107.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 48.0, 106.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 47.5, 105.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 47.5, 104.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 47.0, 103.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 47.0, 102.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 47.0, 101.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 46.5, 100.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 46.0, 99.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 46.0, 98.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 46.0, 97.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 45.5, 96.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 45.5, 95.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 45.5, 94.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 42.0, 45.5, 93.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 45.0, 92.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 45.0, 91.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 45.0, 90.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 45.0, 89.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 44.5, 88.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 44.5, 88.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 44.0, 87.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 44.0, 86.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.5, 86.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.5, 85.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.5, 84.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.5, 84.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.5, 83.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.5, 82.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.0, 81.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.0, 81.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 43.0, 80.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 79.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 79.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 78.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 78.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 77.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 76.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 40.0, 42.5, 76.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 40.0, 42.5, 75.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 40.0, 42.5, 74.5; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 74.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69

Temp.= 41.0, 42.5, 74.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
Vcore = 2.32, 3.73; Volt. = 3.33, 5.59, 14.04,  -2.16,  1.69
^C
[2.0-RC1][root@pfsense.MYNETWORK.localdomain]/root(5):

              The first three numbers went down as the fan was running.  The fan turned off at the end of the code I pasted in.  Now I'm seeing that the three numbers are increasing again.  Obviously, more heat is being generated in there.  Not great.  I really hope this CF adapter puts out less heat.  However, if it comes down to it, I guess I could put in a fan along the back.  Something quiet to keep the whole rig cooler. :-(  I'll try the other program you suggested.  My ultimate goal would be to graph this data, however, that might be out of the range of the RRD graphs.  Thanks!

              Jim

              pfSense 2.7.2-RELEASE

              Dell R210 II
              Intel E3-1340 v2
              8GB RAM
              SSD ZFS Mirror
              Intel X520-DA2, RJ45 SFP+ (WAN) and 10Gb SFP+ DAC (LAN)
              1 x Cisco 3850 12XS-S (Core Switch)
              2 x Cisco 3750X PoE Gig Switch (Access Stack)
              3 x Cisco 2802i APs (Mobility Express)

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                It's hard to say what the three numbers are. If I had to guess I would say the first one is a chipset sensor the second one a cpu sensor and the last one is unconnected and is giving you a value relative to ambient, which will decrease when the fans are on.
                Interesting that it doesn't see the fans spinning up.
                There's no need to try superiotool as you can see it's a Winbond 83627-XX chip.
                The best thing to try is wait until the temperatures are reasonably stable and then reboot into the bios and compare.
                On my own system the reported temperature is dependent on cpu load. If I load the cpu it jumps by 10° instantly! Obviously this can't happen in the real universe.  ::)

                You could try the coretemp(4) driver. I'm seeing mixed reports on Atoms.

                Steve

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                • I Offline
                  indesman
                  last edited by

                  I've been trying to get coretemp(4) working on my 2.0 RC1 box running on an Atom N270 motherboard. I followed the instructions from http://www.unix.com/man-page/freebsd/4/coretemp/ to run it at boot by adding 'coretemp_load="YES"' to loader.conf, which I succeeded in doing. When I SSH in and enter coretemp(4) I get "coretemp: command not found".

                  I then tried to find the kernel configuration file so I could add "device coretemp" to it but couldn't find the file  /usr/src/sys/i386/conf .  Where is the configuration file and how do I add to it?

                  P.S. I also tried mbmon but it didn't recognize my hardware.

                  Thanks,
                  Michael

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Coretemp reports it's results via syscontrols. You need to view them like so:

                    sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature

                    Typed at the command line.

                    Steve

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                    • I Offline
                      indesman
                      last edited by

                      Thanks for the directions.  When I enter it I get:

                      [2.0-RC1][admin@pfsense.brownhome.local]/root(2): sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature
sysctl: unknown oid 'dev.cpu.0.temperature'

                      So I looked up some other permutations which yielded the following results:

                      
[2.0-RC1][admin@pfsense.brownhome.local]/root(3): sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal'
[2.0-RC1][admin@pfsense.brownhome.local]/root(5): sysctl -a |egrep -E "cpu\.[0-9]+\.temp"
[2.0-RC1][admin@pfsense.brownhome.local]/root(6):
[2.0-RC1][admin@pfsense.brownhome.local]/root(8): sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature
sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature'
[2.0-RC1][admin@pfsense.brownhome.local]/root(9):

                      My guess is that if coretemp were to work I might need a different oid.  Is there some place I can find a list of possible oid's to try?  Also, is acpi_thermal typically loaded by the kernel or should I add it to loader.conf? (If I do need to add it is the syntax acpi_thermal _load="YES"?)

                      FWIW, here's the output from mbmon:

                      
[2.0-RC1][admin@pfsense.brownhome.local]/root(22): mbmon -A
InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0
This program needs "setuid root"!!

                      I have not idea how to "setuid root"
                      Many Thanks
                      Michael

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                      • R Offline
                        RedRep
                        last edited by

                        Indesman: Check out this thread
                        http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,39595.0.html

                        To other people searching for monitoring CPU temp on Atom boards and having similar issues as presented in this topic - click the above link too.

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