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      asterix
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      Maybe i can make it a good hacintosh.

      Steve,
      The only traffic I see on the dash is WAN to VLAN and VLAN to WAN. Is there any documentation on VLAN?

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        Metu69salemi
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        Vlan in general is well documented just use search engines
        Vlan in pfsense? what you want to know it?
        pfsense wiki

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          asterix
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          I started a new thread for VLAN here..

          http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,39833.0.html

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            wallabybob
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            @asterix:

            The only traffic I see on the dash is WAN to VLAN and VLAN to WAN. Is there any documentation on VLAN?

            Are you expecting to see VLAN to VLAN traffic show up on pfSense? In many cases VLAN to VLAN traffic is handled entirely within the switch and doesn't get to  the router.

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              asterix
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              Yes, that is what I am suspecting.

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                asterix
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                Can anyone recommend a good Atom based passively cooled motherboard with the fastest Atom dual core processor. Dual gigabit with 8GB RAM support preferred but not a critical requirement.

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  @wallabybob:

                  Are you expecting to see VLAN to VLAN traffic show up on pfSense? In many cases VLAN to VLAN traffic is handled entirely within the switch and doesn't get to  the router.

                  I'm not actually running any VLANs at the moment so I can't check but if the VLANs are assigned as different interfaces in pfSense then I would expect any traffic between them to have to go through pfSense?
                  If traffic is bypassing pfSense and being routed by the switch then that's a big security hole! No?

                  Steve

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                    GruensFroeschli
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                    That's what i thought first as well.
                    However i think he means with VLAN to VLAN traffic actually traffic within a single VLAN.
                    At least it's formulated like this in the other thread.
                    http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,39833.0.html

                    We do what we must, because we can.

                    Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Ah! I see.

                      Steve

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                        wallabybob
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                        Yes, I took the question as VLAN traffic to same VLAN.

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                          GruensFroeschli
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                          @asterix:

                          Can anyone recommend a good Atom based passively cooled motherboard with the fastest Atom dual core processor. Dual gigabit with 8GB RAM support preferred but not a critical requirement.

                          Not sure if such a thing even exists.
                          The closest thing i currently see is this: http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2i-specifications/
                          (only 1 core and quite expensive at that….)
                          I have one to play around and get about 600Mbit throughput.
                          Or in the future: http://www.fit-pc.com/fit-pc3/ (not yet out).

                          We do what we must, because we can.

                          Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Yep, I don't think you'll find an Atom chipset that supports 8GB.

                            Steve

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                              Bai Shen
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                              The i3's support 8GB and you can get them down to near Atom power levels.  The hard part is finding the power supply in my experience.

                              http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/d510mo-intel-atom,2616-11.html

                              My i3 with an ATX board and 3 PCI NICs idles at 40W, but that's with a 430W PSU.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                The graphs at that link are quite revealing. Those desktop Atoms have no powersaving features. Look at the D510, 28W at 0 load, 33W at 100% load.  :o The Netbook atoms are much better <10W at idle.

                                Steve

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                                  asterix
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                                  fit PC is overrated and extremely expensive for the hardware config.

                                  Yes I realized 8GB is not achievable for Atom mobo's yet. Which is the best Atom mobo with the fastest Atom processor that I can get right now? I may switch to FTTH in the coming months and would definitely need good WAN to LAN throughput.

                                  How can I get the power down for the i5 Sandy Bridge I have right now? The thermaltake enclosure has zero air circulation and my processor runs 62C at idle times.. yeah I know it's hot. To make matters worse the PSU is almost touching the processor.. it's that close.. so a lot of heat is generated and no fans except of the PSU which is a joke. I even removed the stock thermal paste, got the expensive $15 CPU thermal paste from Staples and reapplied a good thin layer. But the that has not changed the temperature by even a degree. Tried cleaning and reapplying thrice but no change.

                                  I need to get the power consumption on this down and maybe it will cool itself a bit.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Have you enabled powerd?

                                    Steve

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                                      asterix
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                                      Yes. It tries to bring down the the processor to about 400 but it's not constant. Thinking about lowering the CPU and RAM power in the BIOS.

                                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz
                                      Current: 400 MHz, Max: 3601 MHz

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                                        Metu69salemi
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                                        You could find also next opportunity: Diagnostics:Command prompt, run```
                                        sysctl -a | grep cpu

                                        then you should find next kind text```
                                        dev.cpu.0.freq: 3000
                                        

                                        Then you can go to /boot/loader.conf.local and create a line with a smaller frequency, like 200.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Powerd should take care of all that for you. It depends which driver it's using though. It's only really effective when it uses a driver that can scale back the voltage as well as frequency. I'm not sure FreeBSD will have caught up with i5 yet.

                                          Steve

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                                            Bai Shen
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                                            @stephenw10:

                                            The graphs at that link are quite revealing. Those desktop Atoms have no powersaving features. Look at the D510, 28W at 0 load, 33W at 100% load.  :o The Netbook atoms are much better <10W at idle.

                                            Steve

                                            Yeah, for some reason they didn't include speedstep in the desktop versions, so they run at full power all the time.  It's another reason I went with the i3 instead.

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