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      jasonlitka
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      @compucoder:

      250GB 7200 drives in Raid 0

      Don't put drives in RAID 0 for any critical system.  If you need better I/O performance then invest in faster drives.

      I can break anything.

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        Bai Shen
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        I have a similar machine that I'm replacing with an i3 2100.  Went from 140W at idle to 40W.

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          compucoder
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          Woops, sorry about the Raid 0… I meant Raid 1. :)

          Thanks for the suggestions. I will check some of those out.

          I am leaning towards the offerings from Hacom right now but am not set on them.

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            compucoder
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            What do you guys think about the Dell PowerEdge r210? Do you think pfSense will work with that server?

            I know it is a bit overkill but I am willing to pay a bit more for a really good system that will last for many years.

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              asterix
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              In my opinion.. build a system rather buying something from Dell or an other company. You can make a system double the speed and performance for half of the price, if you know where to shop for the parts. Warranty is pretty much the same for the parts, typical 1 year.

              I usually like silent/space saving/green enclosures. Not a big fan of rack mounted stuff which are extremely loud with their fans and power hoggers.

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                compucoder
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                I can get a good price from Dell as we are premium partners. I can get a R210 with 4GB Ram, 2 250GB drives in Raid 1 and an I3 processor for $900.

                I don't think I can build a decent server we can rely upon for 3-5 years for that… but I don't know part prices these days or even where to get them anymore.

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                  covex
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                  i'm using devices from portwell.com. two boxes have almost 600 days uptime on them, no probs so far.

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                    asterix
                    last edited by

                    @compucoder:

                    I can get a good price from Dell as we are premium partners. I can get a R210 with 4GB Ram, 2 250GB drives in Raid 1 and an I3 processor for $900.

                    I don't think I can build a decent server we can rely upon for 3-5 years for that… but I don't know part prices these days or even where to get them anymore.

                    Following prices taken from MicroCenter. I do all my shopping from there. They match all NewEgg prices and most of the times are much better in prices. Plus they apply just 3% tax.

                    Intel Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor - $99.99
                    GA-H67N-USB3-B3 LGA 1155 H67 mini ITX Intel Motherboard - $104.99
                    4GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) CL9 Desktop Memory Kit (Two 2GB Memory Modules) - $19.99
                    Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-RK - 49.99 x 2 = $99.98

                    Enclosure, extra dual port NIC ~ $150 (Microcenter, Newegg, eBay…)

                    Total ~ $475 (less than 500 with taxes) <---- Do the math. Pretty much half the price. Dell is $900 plus tax

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                      jasonlitka
                      last edited by

                      @compucoder:

                      I can get a good price from Dell as we are premium partners. I can get a R210 with 4GB Ram, 2 250GB drives in Raid 1 and an I3 processor for $900.

                      I don't think I can build a decent server we can rely upon for 3-5 years for that… but I don't know part prices these days or even where to get them anymore.

                      Assuming you mean with the SAS6/iR controller (this is the only RAID controller available on the R210 that works with pfSense), that's a bit steep and you should push for a larger discount.  I just whipped up something spec'd like that on my Dell Premier page and came out $100 lower.  I typically target 40% off their US list price and consider anything better than 35% (except within 2-3 weeks of end-of-quarter) a win.

                      I can break anything.

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                        jasonlitka
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                        @asterix:

                        @compucoder:

                        I can get a good price from Dell as we are premium partners. I can get a R210 with 4GB Ram, 2 250GB drives in Raid 1 and an I3 processor for $900.

                        I don't think I can build a decent server we can rely upon for 3-5 years for that… but I don't know part prices these days or even where to get them anymore.

                        Following prices taken from MicroCenter. I do all my shopping from there. They match all NewEgg prices and most of the times are much better in prices. Plus they apply just 3% tax.

                        Intel Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor - $99.99
                        GA-H67N-USB3-B3 LGA 1155 H67 mini ITX Intel Motherboard - $104.99
                        4GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) CL9 Desktop Memory Kit (Two 2GB Memory Modules) - $19.99
                        Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-RK - 49.99 x 2 = $99.98

                        Enclosure, extra dual port NIC ~ $150 (Microcenter, Newegg, eBay…)

                        Total ~ $475 (less than 500 with taxes) <---- Do the math. Pretty much half the price. Dell is $900 plus tax

                        … and with that you have no RAID.  Part of the cost in the Dell system is the hardware RAID controller, the rest is the on-site warranty for when it breaks.

                        I can break anything.

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                          asterix
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                          So get a RAID mobo for a few bucks extra. The above config is a typical user config (small form factor). You still can't beat the price by buying Dell. Dell onsite warranty is nothing but parts replacement for one year… it's practically the same with any hardware warranty. You fry the mobo.. the company looks at the warranty and replaces it. Not as smooth as I describe it here but you get what I meant.

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                            vito
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                            Have you looked at Lanner?

                            http://www.lannerinc.com/x86_Network_Appliances/FW-7565

                            Have not run this model, but have run others.
                            PF 1.2.3 and 2.0

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                              jasonlitka
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                              @asterix:

                              So get a RAID mobo for a few bucks extra. The above config is a typical user config (small form factor). You still can't beat the price by buying Dell. Dell onsite warranty is nothing but parts replacement for one year… it's practically the same with any hardware warranty. You fry the mobo.. the company looks at the warranty and replaces it. Not as smooth as I describe it here but you get what I meant.

                              What "RAID Mobo" has a hardware RAID controller that is only a "few bucks extra"?  Some SuperMicro & Tyan boards come with LSI SAS controllers onboard but they tend to be in the $300+ area.

                              As to Dell warranty, for the $900 above, at least by my pricing, that includes next day, on-site service for 3 years.

                              I can break anything.

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                                asterix
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                                A simple google search can give you all the answers.

                                GA-H67N-USB3-B3 - mini-ITX.

                                SATA 6Gb/s - 2 x SATA 6Gb/s
                                SATA RAID - 0/1/5/10

                                http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128484

                                Just 79.99 after rebate.

                                I am using this mobo with an i5 CPU. I don't need raid.

                                You wanted an opinion for new hardware.. I provided mine. If you are leaning with Dell then go for it. I am a person who doesn't like to pay someone if I can do it on my own for less.

                                Good luck !!

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