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    Voip : Only one way speech is working between 2 Sites!

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      fifinon
      last edited by

      In the first time i autorised from 32000 to 32512 IN UDP (i found those ports in Alcatel documentation guide)""sorry for my english :-[""
      also i tried the same ports for TCP and TCP/UDP,
      But no résult ???

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        podilarius
        last edited by

        I would switch that to allow all tcp and udp ports through. Watch your state tables and you can adjust your FW rules based on the connection(s).

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        • pttP
          ptt Rebel Alliance
          last edited by

          Do some packet capture, with wireshark, then check the RTPs stream to check if its go to the right place.

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            fifinon
            last edited by

            what did you mean by state tables and where can i find it?
            thanks very much!

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              podilarius
              last edited by

              @fifinon:

              what did you mean by state tables and where can i find it?
              thanks very much!

              It is under Diag -> States.

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                fifinon
                last edited by

                It is under Diag -> States.

                OK THIS IS A CAPTURE OF TABLE :
                http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/voip.png/

                for info :
                our goal is to use simple telephones(analog & num) between sites and remove telephones IP.

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                  fifinon
                  last edited by

                  can you explain this :

                  stats table :

                  udp 172.16.1.200:2910 -> 172.16.11.200:24124 -> 172.16.2.200:1719 MULTIPLE:SINGLE 
                  udp 172.16.1.200:1719 -> 172.16.11.200:10490 -> 172.16.2.200:1028 SINGLE:NO_TRAFFIC

                  172.16.11.200 = antenne RLAN

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                  • marcellocM
                    marcelloc
                    last edited by

                    Check if there is some nat configurarion for sip at your voip servers and also reduce  the RTP port range for a Easier rule creation.

                    At asterisk its very easy to setup.

                    I just don't understand why are you giving up ip phones?
                    But its a firewall forum, not a voip one, So check these configs and see if ir works.

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                    Help a community developer! ;D

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                      fifinon
                      last edited by

                      Check if there is some nat configurarion for sip at your voip servers and also reduce  the RTP port range for a Easier rule creation.

                      the protocol used for my voip configuration is H323!

                      can you please explain me this ( reduce  the RTP port range for a Easier rule creation )?

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                      • marcellocM
                        marcelloc
                        last edited by

                        @fifinon:

                        the protocol used for my voip configuration is H323!

                        can you please explain me this ( reduce  the RTP port range for a Easier rule creation )?

                        I do not have experience with h323 but 'google'  ;) told me that both(sip and h323) signaling protocols uses RTP for media transport, in this case audio is the media.

                        Every time you get no audio or one way audio, it means you are having RTP issues.

                        At asterisk, default RTP range is from 10000 to 20000. I have no idea how h323 handles this.

                        Returning to firewall….
                        RTP packages sents 'inpackage' information telling other part how(and for who) he will return the package. When you have NAT, or server thinks he is behind NAT, the information inside the package will tell the other side to return the package to a wrong or unreachable destination.

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                          fifinon
                          last edited by

                          @marcelloc:

                          @fifinon:

                          the protocol used for my voip configuration is H323!

                          can you please explain me this ( reduce  the RTP port range for a Easier rule creation )?

                          I do not have experience with h323 but 'google'  ;) told me that both(sip and h323) signaling protocols uses RTP for media transport, in this case audio is the media.

                          Every time you get no audio or one way audio, it means you are having RTP issues.

                          At asterisk, default RTP range is from 10000 to 20000. I have no idea how h323 handles this.

                          Returning to firewall….
                          RTP packages sents 'inpackage' information telling other part how(and for who) he will return the package. When you have NAT, or server thinks he is behind NAT, the information inside the package will tell the other side to return the package to a wrong or unreachable destination.

                          maybe there is a problem in NAT ! i will wait for other idea about this because i'm newbie !
                          thanks alot.

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                            fifinon
                            last edited by

                            this is another captur of my state table in site C :

                            Proto    Source -> Router -> Destination    State   
                            udp 172.16.3.200:1719 <- 172.16.1.200:4562 SINGLE:MULTIPLE 
                            udp 172.16.1.200:4562 -> 172.16.6.200:1719 MULTIPLE:SINGLE 
                            udp 172.16.3.200:48607 <- 172.16.1.200:1719 NO_TRAFFIC:SINGLE 
                            udp 172.16.1.200:1719 -> 172.16.6.200:48607 SINGLE:NO_TRAFFIC 
                            udp 172.16.1.200:4561 <- 172.16.6.200:48607 NO_TRAFFIC:SINGLE 
                            udp 172.16.3.200:48607 -> 192.168.24.25:56773 -> 172.16.1.200:4561 SINGLE:NO_TRAFFIC

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                            • pttP
                              ptt Rebel Alliance
                              last edited by

                              Diagnostics –> Packet Capture

                              Do a "call capture" then open with Wireshark ( Telephony -> VoIP Calls -> Flow ) and check where the RTPs Come & Go, then you can figure what is happening.

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                                fifinon
                                last edited by

                                i created  this rules but no résult

                                source (ports)  => destination (ports)

                                adresse PBX site A : 172.16.1.200 (UDP 32000-32512 ) => adresse PBX Site B 172.16.2.200 (UDP 32000-32512)

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                                • marcellocM
                                  marcelloc
                                  last edited by

                                  Create one with serverA => serverB and serverB => serverA.

                                  Free all traffic between voip servers.

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                                  Help a community developer! ;D

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                                    fifinon
                                    last edited by

                                    @marcelloc:

                                    Create one with serverA => serverB and serverB => serverA.

                                    Free all traffic between voip servers.

                                    i did it !! no résult >:(

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                                      fifinon
                                      last edited by

                                      I think the problème is in the NAT !! because when i turn off NAT filtre in advance setup the voip work very good, but the navigation in internet don't work (no internet acces) so i don't know how to give acces to internet !!! do you have any idea ????

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                                      • marcellocM
                                        marcelloc
                                        last edited by

                                        The server is on the same subnet as machines?

                                        If so, disable automatic nat and create your own nat out rules.

                                        Ps.
                                        It sounds strange to me that some services will need nat and some don't.

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                                        Help a community developer! ;D

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                                          fifinon
                                          last edited by

                                          @marcelloc:

                                          The server is on the same subnet as machines?

                                          If so, disable automatic nat and create your own nat out rules.

                                          Ps.
                                          It sounds strange to me that some services will need nat and some don't.

                                          Yes the server is on the same subnet as machnies !

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                                            fifinon
                                            last edited by

                                            I really don't understand this problème!!!
                                            i tired every thing to resolve it but no solution until now!!

                                            now i'm trying to make the VOIP work just between 2 sites but the firewall still block the voip!

                                            the ping between 2 sites A and B is good also the transfer of DATA from A => B and B => A!

                                            Site A :172.16.1.0
                                            ALCATEL PBX A : 172.16.1.200
                                            Site B :172.16.2.0
                                            ALCATEL PBX B : 172.16.2.200

                                            i created those rules,

                                            in Server A :

                                            Rule 1 :

                                            Lan Interface :

                                            Action : Pass

                                            Interface : LAN

                                            Protocol : Any

                                            Source  : Lan subnet

                                            Destination : Single Hoste Or Aliace (Site B)

                                            Geteway : default

                                            Rule 2 :

                                            Lan Interface :

                                            Action : Pass

                                            Interface : LAN

                                            Protocol : TCP/UDP

                                            Source  : Single Hoste Or Aliace (172.16.1.200)

                                            Port : from 32000 to 32512

                                            Destination : Single Hoste Or Aliace (172.16.2.200)

                                            Port : from 32000 to 32512

                                            Geteway : default

                                            –-----------------------------------------------------------

                                            in Server B :

                                            Rule 1 :

                                            Lan Interface :

                                            Action : Pass

                                            Interface : LAN

                                            Protocol : Any

                                            Source  : Lan subnet

                                            Destination : Single Hoste Or Aliace (172.16.1.0)

                                            Geteway : default

                                            Rule 2 :

                                            Lan Interface :

                                            Action : Pass

                                            Interface : LAN

                                            Protocol : TCP/UDP

                                            Source  : Single Hoste Or Aliace (172.16.2.200)

                                            Port : from 32000 to 32512

                                            Destination : Single Hoste Or Aliace (172.16.1.200)

                                            Port : from 32000 to 32512

                                            Geteway : default

                                            –------------------------------------------------------------

                                            Alcatel support say that the VOIP need just port from 32000 to 32512 but i also tried to autorise all port!! but no résult!

                                            in Diagnostics: System logs: Firewall : the firewall still block the voip !!!

                                            Act       Time         If            Source                Destination              Proto
                                            X Oct 2 15:32:01 LAN 172.16.1.200:4489 172.16.2.200:58615 UDP
                                            X Oct 2 15:31:59 LAN 172.16.1.200:4491 172.16.2.200:34195 UDP


                                            Do you have any idea? ???

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