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      luke240778
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      Hey guys, i am hoping to get some info or just a chat with some other people in a similar situation to me.  I am from Australia, and i live in Brazil.  Myse lf and a partner have started a WiSP here, which we are hoping very shortly to have our whole city (smallish, around 5 square Kilometers).

      We are using some fantastic Wireless equipment from Ruckus Wireless, and i am using pfSense 2.0-RELEASE as my gateway/firewall etc..

      What i would like to know is what do you guys use as far as software to manage clients, payments and all that.  Also, Network administration.. I would love to know what tools or software i can use to troubleshoot any networking problems that my customers have.  I already have a few (all connected to us via 2.4ghz directional antennas) who are having slowness problems with general web browsing, and others are not. Traffic graph shows that i have plenty of available bandwidth at the times the people are complaining.. so could pfSense not be giving out all the available bandwidth? or is it an antenna problem?  They all have very good signal and connection to my towers.

      SO basically i am after assistance is knowing how to properly troubleshot these types of issues, and hopefully find out what other WiSP's are using as far as client management software and go from there.

      Thanks in advance.

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        ericab
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        how many users are connected at one time to the ap's that are giving poor performance ?

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          chpalmer
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          What is the transport method between your router and your tower radio's?

          Keep in mind that 2.4gHz is a very busy band. Everything from Microwave ovens, some cordless phones, bluetooth, besides wireless networking reside in and around these frequencies.

          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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            luke240778
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            @ericab:

            how many users are connected at one time to the ap's that are giving poor performance ?

            Currently have 2 towers each with an AP and a PTP.  These AP's can handle 100 concurrent conections.  My first one i currently have 58 conected, the second i have 18 connected.  Bear in mind that of that 58 connected, i have around maybe 10 that are complaingin that the internet is bottlenecking, oscilating alot.. and then others that are connected are telling me hoe got is it.. We give our clients a 2mb down/1mb up connection.

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              luke240778
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              @chpalmer:

              What is the transport method between your router and your tower radio's?

              Keep in mind that 2.4gHz is a very busy band. Everything from Microwave ovens, some cordless phones, bluetooth, besides wireless networking reside in and around these frequencies.

              Basically, the first tower is connected directly into my network via CAT5 cable (its on the roof of my office) and the second tower, which is around 1500meters away is conected via PTPs (the main one being conected to my network via CAT5, the other at the second tower)

              As far as i can see from using inSSIDer, there are other networks around but our AP's auto select the best channel which from looking at seems to be uncongested.

              Just for the record, our AP's are: Ruckus ZoneFlex 2741
              And our PTP's are: Ruckus ZoneFlex 7731

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                dhatz
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                @luke240778:

                Just for the record, our AP's are: Ruckus ZoneFlex 2741
                And our PTP's are: Ruckus ZoneFlex 7731

                Hi, did you have specific reasons for choosing Ruckus gear for your WISP "last-mile" setup? FWIW I think Ruckus products are great, however it seems that most small-/mid-sized WISPs around the world typically deploy Mikrotik and Ubiquity gear.

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                  luke240778
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                  @dhatz:

                  @luke240778:

                  Just for the record, our AP's are: Ruckus ZoneFlex 2741
                  And our PTP's are: Ruckus ZoneFlex 7731

                  Hi, did you have specific reasons for choosing Ruckus gear for your WISP "last-mile" setup? FWIW I think Ruckus products are great, however it seems that most small-/mid-sized WISPs around the world typically deploy Mikrotik and Ubiquity gear.

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                  We did alot of research and testing of all these and none of the others perform, anywhere near as good as the Ruckus.  The main benefits being the larger Backhaul capabilites, More users per radio, simple to install and setup, Beamforming.. etc.  The Ruckus equipment just works fantastically and is very simple to setup.  From talking with someone at Ubiquity, i was told that we could only really get around 30 simultanious connections per radio.. and its 100 with Ruckus currently, and will be 250 with the next firmware upgrade in a couple more weeks.

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                    dhatz
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                    As I wrote in my previous post, I certainly agree that Ruckus performs great, but the other two seem to be primarily geared towards the small-/medium-size WISP niche, and a lot of the necessary functionality you asked for (e.g. managing clients, payments etc) is either built-in or readily available from 3rd party software.

                    I'm a bit surprised that Ubiquity told you that their gear can only get 30 users per AP, because they're marketing their proprietary "AirMax" technology which reportedly supports ~100 clients per AP, as long as both AP and all clients support it.

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                      luke240778
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                      @dhatz:

                      As I wrote in my previous post, I certainly agree that Ruckus performs great, but the other two seem to be primarily geared towards the small-/medium-size WISP niche, and a lot of the necessary functionality you asked for (e.g. managing clients, payments etc) is either built-in or readily available from 3rd party software.

                      Do you know of any of these 3rd party softwares that are good?  I am currenly using a FreeRADIUS server for authentication, with daloRADIUS for webgui, but it doesnt seem to be that good.. Freeside is another i have heard of but i can't even get it installed and working after about a month of trying..

                      @dhatz:

                      I'm a bit surprised that Ubiquity told you that their gear can only get 30 users per AP, because they're marketing their proprietary "AirMax" technology which reportedly supports ~100 clients per AP, as long as both AP and all clients support it.

                      The main issue with Ubiquity was on the backhaul, it just couldnt support where we are needing to go. we  needed to go with carrier class gear to support the amount of clients and bandwidth we are aiming at.. Going with Ubiquity gear for us just meant we would need to swap it out for Ruckus later on anyways, so we went with Ruckus from the get go.

                      Are you also a WiSP dhatz?  If so what kind of setup are you using?

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                        dhatz
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                        No, I don't run a WISP, but I was involved in related work a few years ago.

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                          luke240778
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                          Ok great, would love to hear and ideas for software for user management that you might know that works well.

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                            dhatz
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                            You could check Radius Manager (http://www.dmasoftlab.com/) but keep in mind that certain key features are NAS-specific. E.g. Radius Manager has a feature called "instant access service" that allows a user to create a Hotspot-account on the fly, after paying first. But for this feature to work, one would obviously need to add certain sites to captive portal's walled-garden, incl. wildcard domain matches for *.akamaiedge.net servers.

                            Check the filter by hostnam/fqdn threads to understand the issues involved. Latest pfsense2 has a daemon that resolves hostnames into IPs periodically, but I'd have to check to see if CP can be configured to allow traffic to the entire akamai's IP range (if you plan to use a payment gateway that uses it).

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                              bonnecomm
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                              I run a WISP and we're about to try pfSense 2.0-Release. There was a bug in pfSense 1.2.3 where it didn't like our MikroTik Quad-NICs, but 2.0 doesn't appear to have that problem.

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                                luke240778
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                                @dhatz:

                                You could check Radius Manager (http://www.dmasoftlab.com/) but keep in mind that certain key features are NAS-specific. E.g. Radius Manager has a feature called "instant access service" that allows a user to create a Hotspot-account on the fly, after paying first. But for this feature to work, one would obviously need to add certain sites to captive portal's walled-garden, incl. wildcard domain matches for *.akamaiedge.net servers.

                                Check the filter by hostnam/fqdn threads to understand the issues involved. Latest pfsense2 has a daemon that resolves hostnames into IPs periodically, but I'd have to check to see if CP can be configured to allow traffic to the entire akamai's IP range (if you plan to use a payment gateway that uses it).

                                Thanks for this.  I have actually contacted them to do a demo.  They are telling me that their software works best with Mikrotik, and not so great with pfsense… not sure what to do now..  Can i somehow use both Mikrotik and pfSense?

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                                  dhatz
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                                  @luke240778:

                                  Dont be too quick to try pfSense 2.0-RELEASE.. my captive portal worked perfectly before the upgrade to 2.0-RELEASE.. now i am having people bypass the CP and straight onto the net.. big bug in my opinion.

                                  I've noticed you posting about having problems, but IIRC you were just using the MAC-passthrough feature and manually adding/removing MACs.

                                  You'll need to provide more info about your config and ipfw settings (/tmp/ipfw.cp.rules, ipfw show, ipfw table all list), for anyone to attempt a diagnosis.

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                                    luke240778
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                                    dhatz i am not sure what you are saying.. dont know what those ipfw commands you mention are.  I have posted about this in another thread i mentioned.. but no one assisted, just someone else saying they have also got the same problem.

                                    if i run: /tmp/ipfw.cp.rules it tells me i dont have permission (logged in as root)

                                    ipfw table all lsit i get nothing.. it just goes to a new prompt..

                                    ipfw show and i get:

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                                    00137  615328    46524778 pipe 20136 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:f8:aa
                                    00138  568334  296974594 pipe 20139 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:fa:14 any
                                    00139  490189    91737144 pipe 20138 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:fa:14
                                    00140  8981296  9393993251 pipe 20141 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:fa:40 any
                                    00141  6054045  590900973 pipe 20140 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:fa:40
                                    00142  1644037  1904953778 pipe 20143 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:fa:4c any
                                    00143  1032831  145128109 pipe 20142 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:fa:4c
                                    00144  853769  868850701 pipe 20145 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:fa:5c any
                                    00145  645901    93591692 pipe 20144 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:fa:5c
                                    00146  4320838  4499445123 pipe 20147 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:fd:b2 any
                                    00147  2905435  749661585 pipe 20146 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:fd:b2
                                    00148  474845  516573968 pipe 20149 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:dd:b8 any
                                    00149  296075    36403578 pipe 20148 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:dd:b8
                                    00150    1439      393932 pipe 20151 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:f6:ac any
                                    00151      748      74389 pipe 20150 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:f6:ac
                                    00152  7476571  6214598572 pipe 20153 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c9:00:cc any
                                    00153  5954648  2546952560 pipe 20152 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c9:00:cc
                                    00154  3181630  4062422740 pipe 20155 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c9:01:f0 any
                                    00155  1883407  165582295 pipe 20154 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c9:01:f0
                                    00156    49210    32270556 pipe 20157 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c9:02:6c any
                                    00157    34342    6889467 pipe 20156 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c9:02:6c
                                    00158 13877616 17589938436 pipe 20159 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c9:02:9e any
                                    00159  8831606  1230984896 pipe 20158 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c9:02:9e
                                    00160  4065141  5326504356 pipe 20161 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c9:04:72 any
                                    00161  2352751  225342377 pipe 20160 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c9:04:72
                                    00162        0          0 pipe 20163 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:59:16 any
                                    00163        0          0 pipe 20162 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:59:16
                                    00164  276006  216198548 pipe 20165 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:e0:92 any
                                    00165  222463    35028691 pipe 20164 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:e0:92
                                    00166  877308  540245232 pipe 20167 ip from any to any MAC 90:00:4e:5a:5a:7f any
                                    00167  692340    86802756 pipe 20166 ip from any to any MAC any 90:00:4e:5a:5a:7f
                                    00168        0          0 allow ip from any to any MAC a4:ba:db:3d:24:5a any
                                    00169        0          0 allow ip from any to any MAC any a4:ba:db:3d:24:5a
                                    00170    48128    4248350 allow ip from any to any MAC ac:67:06:37:90:60 any
                                    00171    48765    5809853 allow ip from any to any MAC any ac:67:06:37:90:60
                                    00172    48273    4255706 allow ip from any to any MAC ac:67:06:37:91:90 any
                                    00173    48831    5775983 allow ip from any to any MAC any ac:67:06:37:91:90
                                    00174      207      45439 pipe 20175 ip from any to any MAC b8:70:f4:92:0f:2e any
                                    00175      437      44620 pipe 20174 ip from any to any MAC any b8:70:f4:92:0f:2e
                                    00176      199      55265 pipe 20177 ip from any to any MAC f8:7b:7a:3a:ce:7f any
                                    00177      218      50668 pipe 20176 ip from any to any MAC any f8:7b:7a:3a:ce:7f
                                    00178  9250394  1277797068 pipe 20179 ip from any to any MAC c8:3a:35:d2:53:cf any
                                    00179 14148558 14986388983 pipe 20178 ip from any to any MAC any c8:3a:35:d2:53:cf
                                    00180        0          0 pipe 20181 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:86:26:fe any
                                    00181      246      14496 pipe 20180 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:86:26:fe
                                    00182        0          0 pipe 20183 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:06:ac any
                                    00183        0          0 pipe 20182 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:06:ac
                                    00184  954445  682284918 allow ip from any to any MAC 00:1e:64:52:a0:16 any
                                    00185  1186802  1104938693 allow ip from any to any MAC any 00:1e:64:52:a0:16
                                    00186        0          0 pipe 20187 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:75:98:9e any
                                    00187      458      24248 pipe 20186 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:75:98:9e
                                    00188        0          0 pipe 20189 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:e9:6c any
                                    00189      62      15572 pipe 20188 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:e9:6c
                                    00190    15236    17844494 pipe 20191 ip from any to any MAC 1c:65:9d:b3:75:42 any
                                    00191    11055    1464218 pipe 20190 ip from any to any MAC any 1c:65:9d:b3:75:42
                                    00192        0          0 pipe 20193 ip from any to any MAC 00:27:22:2e:11:65 any
                                    00193    2051      160090 pipe 20192 ip from any to any MAC any 00:27:22:2e:11:65
                                    00194    87117  128987267 allow ip from any to any MAC 00:0c:29:44:04:2d any
                                    00195    51242    2831873 allow ip from any to any MAC any 00:0c:29:44:04:2d
                                    00196        0          0 pipe 20197 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:bd:14 any
                                    00197      10        2580 pipe 20196 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:bd:14
                                    00198        0          0 pipe 20199 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:75:98:9e any
                                    00199        0          0 pipe 20198 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:75:98:9e
                                    00200        0          0 pipe 20201 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:86:2f:42 any
                                    00201        0          0 pipe 20200 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:86:2f:42
                                    00202        0          0 pipe 20203 ip from any to any MAC 08:10:74:c8:1d:b8 any
                                    00203        0          0 pipe 20202 ip from any to any MAC any 08:10:74:c8:1d:b8
                                    65291        0          0 allow pfsync from any to any
                                    65292        0          0 allow carp from any to any
                                    65301    20191      738580 allow ip from any to any layer2 mac-type 0x0806
                                    65302        0          0 allow ip from any to any layer2 mac-type 0x888e
                                    65303        0          0 allow ip from any to any layer2 mac-type 0x88c7
                                    65304        0          0 allow ip from any to any layer2 mac-type 0x8863
                                    65305        0          0 allow ip from any to any layer2 mac-type 0x8864
                                    65306        0          0 allow ip from any to any layer2 mac-type 0x888e
                                    65307    18936    1012360 deny ip from any to any layer2 not mac-type 0x0800
                                    65310    49077    9426797 allow ip from any to { 255.255.255.255 or 192.168.10.1 or 192.168.5.1 } in
                                    65311      927      569345 allow ip from { 255.255.255.255 or 192.168.10.1 or 192.168.5.1 } to any out
                                    65312        0          0 allow icmp from { 255.255.255.255 or 192.168.10.1 or 192.168.5.1 } to any out icmptypes 0
                                    65313        0          0 allow icmp from any to { 255.255.255.255 or 192.168.10.1 or 192.168.5.1 } in icmptypes 8
                                    65314        0          0 allow ip from table(3) to any in
                                    65315        0          0 allow ip from any to table(4) out
                                    65316        0          0 pipe tablearg ip from table(5) to any in
                                    65317        0          0 pipe tablearg ip from any to table(6) out
                                    65318        0          0 allow ip from any to table(7) in
                                    65319        0          0 allow ip from table(8) to any out
                                    65320        0          0 pipe tablearg ip from any to table(9) in
                                    65321        0          0 pipe tablearg ip from table(10) to any out
                                    65322        0          0 pipe tablearg ip from table(1) to any in
                                    65323        0          0 pipe tablearg ip from any to table(2) out
                                    65531      746      71739 fwd 127.0.0.1,8000 tcp from any to any in
                                    65532      643      154006 allow tcp from any to any out
                                    65533    92768    19184302 deny ip from any to any
                                    65534        0          0 allow ip from any to any layer2
                                    65535      86      79613 allow ip from any to any

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                                      dhatz
                                      last edited by

                                      Well, the idea was to check whether the MAC-addresses you wanted blocked are actually still in the 'ipfw show' list you just posted, even though you've removed them from the MAC-pass-through page of pfsense's webGUI.

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                                        ptt Rebel Alliance
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                                        @luke240778:

                                        Thanks for this.  I have actually contacted them to do a demo.  They are telling me that their software works best with Mikrotik, and not so great with pfsense… not sure what to do now..  Can i somehow use both Mikrotik and pfSense?

                                        Im using pfSense ( failover & Sip Proxy ) + MikroTik ( PPPoE ) and  Ubiquiti Rocket M5 as AP, for CPE: NanoStation, NanoStation Loco & NanoBridge ( all 5M series ), and Linksys SPA2102 for clients with VoIP service . I do the PPPoE & traffic shapping at CPE.

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                                          luke240778
                                          last edited by

                                          @dhatz:

                                          Well, the idea was to check whether the MAC-addresses you wanted blocked are actually still in the 'ipfw show' list you just posted, even though you've removed them from the MAC-pass-through page of pfsense's webGUI.

                                          Ah ok, i see..  i will check that.  Thankyou.

                                          Is it strange that the other ipfw commands that you mentioned before didn't do anything when i ran them?

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                                            dhatz
                                            last edited by

                                            @luke240778:

                                            Is it strange that the other ipfw commands that you mentioned before didn't do anything when i ran them?

                                            Well, perhaps I wasn't clear enough

                                            /tmp/ipfw.cp.rules is a text-file that contains the ipfw configuration, so you just check its contents (using vi, more etc)
                                            ipfw table all list was to check if you had any entries in ipfw tables. Since it came empty, it means you don't (which is to be expected, since you only use MAC passthrough).

                                            So, as I wrote above, you need to check whether any MAC-addresses you want blocked are still in the 'ipfw show' list. And you need to check that you haven't disabled MAC filtering.

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