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      Metu69salemi
      last edited by

      only thing what i can figure out is to drop out voltage from fans with some kind of voltagecontroller (resistor or 5-9v regulator) or change fans to quiter ones

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      • Cry HavokC
        Cry Havok
        last edited by

        Any reason for not going for the final release (not that I expect it to solve your fan problem)?

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          McFuzz
          last edited by

          I just noticed that the final release is available today; I did the install yesterday so it's not like it is configured to my liking just yet. Slapping the final rev would not be a big deal. Nevertheless… without me getting those fans to shut up, I don't think I'll be able to test it out any time soon.

          Regulating voltage via a resistor is a novel idea however I do want to be able to crank those fans up in the event it's super hot and I am away from home (i.e. work, etc).

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            mikeg
            last edited by

            You could add a SPDT switch to select between 5V and 12V patched from a drive connector.  Although many 12V fans won't start with 5V, they'll run OK once started.  If you need more than 5V, use 12V with a Zener diode across the fan and an appropriate power resistor in series.

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              McFuzz
              last edited by

              @mikeg:

              You could add a SPDT switch to select between 5V and 12V patched from a drive connector.  Although many 12V fans won't start with 5V, they'll run OK once started.  If you need more than 5V, use 12V with a Zener diode across the fan and an appropriate power resistor in series.

              That would probably be my last resort assuming I can't find a suitable software solution.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                If you have fan speed control in the bios then you have the possibility of a software sollution.
                It is probably controlled by the superIO chip. If you're lucky it might be one with auto control built in. If so you just need to set the right registers to activate it.

                Steve

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Does your motherboard's ACPI implementation get fully picked up by the OS?

                  Check the output of:

                  $ sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
                  hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
                  hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
                  hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 35.5C
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 70.0C
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 100.0C
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 70.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 4
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3
                  hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 60
                  

                  Check acpi_thermal(4), in particular the active part (if supported by your BIOS).

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                    McFuzz
                    last edited by

                    I'll try to pull some data today… thanks gents!

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                      McFuzz
                      last edited by

                      Darn - I guess this is not good news  :(

                      
                      [2.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(2): sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
                      sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal'
                      [2.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(3): sysctl hw.acpi
                      hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S4 S5
                      hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5
                      hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1
                      hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE
                      hw.acpi.standby_state: S1
                      hw.acpi.suspend_state: NONE
                      hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1
                      hw.acpi.s4bios: 1
                      hw.acpi.verbose: 0
                      hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0
                      hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0
                      hw.acpi.reset_video: 0
                      hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
                      
                      
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                      • jimpJ
                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by

                        Nope, if that's the case then the fans can't be controlled by the OS.

                        There may be some other package/utility out there though.

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                          McFuzz
                          last edited by

                          I bet there is but alas, my FreeBSD knowledge is not as good as it is with Linux or Windows :\

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Whats the superI/O chip on that board? I bet the fan is controlled by that.

                            Steve

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                              McFuzz
                              last edited by

                              The board has a Intel® E7525 chipset; I am no sure if that would help figure out what Super I/O chip it has… any hints on how to check via CLI?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                You look for it with SuperIOtool.
                                You can pkg_add it:

                                pkg_add -r superiotool
                                

                                You may have to use the full path since the 8.1 package repo no longer exists.

                                Or just look at the board, it's probably Winbond or ITE.

                                Steve

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                                  McFuzz
                                  last edited by

                                  Update!

                                  My local fry's had these awesome rheostat based fan controllers so I bought two and wired them to the outside of the case! Woohoo!

                                  The bad news are, though, that I did not count the PSU fan - that guy gets loud on his own and is… hummy to say the least. At least now it does not sound like a thousand angry wasps... just 10.

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                                    pf123user
                                    last edited by

                                    You are never going to be able to quiet down a (non-passive) rack server. I went through something similar with a few workstation PCs that I use and found a few things that helped - instead of running 8x 1GB sticks of RAM I realized I can easily get away with 4GB so I installed 1x 4GB sticks of RAM. This generated less heat and also very much slowed down the memory cooling fans (making them quieter).

                                    I also changed out my CPUs - I went on eBay and found a lot of Xeon x5063 CPUs (vs the x5060's I was running) which draw less power (the x5063 is a low-voltage CPU). I also realized that some of my boxes didn't need to be running two CPUs so I was able to cut down to only single CPU.

                                    Additionally I turned on PowerD and turned off anything extra not in use (including pulling the video card). This greatly reduced my power consumption, lowered the heat and reduced fan usage. Its still not perfect but this is with a Dell stock BIOS and no other modifications.

                                    You may want to look at alternative fans that have a different blade pitch - they may require more power to operate but be quieter. You are going to have a tradeoff but should be a simple plug & play swap with the super-O chassis/motherboard combo.

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                                      reyoolmot
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi,

                                      Did anyone ever get a resolution for controlling fan speed?

                                      Thanks.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Are you using the same board? Super Micro X6DAL-G.

                                        @http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon800/E7525/X6DAL-G.cfm:

                                        Total of six 4-pin fan headers
                                           6x fans with status monitoring
                                           Status monitor with firmware/software on/off control
                                           Low noise fan speed control
                                           Pulse Width Modulated (PWM) fan connector

                                        It is definitely possible with this board it just needs some coding to do it.

                                        Steve

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                                          jsbsmd
                                          last edited by

                                          I have the same issue, but with a proliant dl380 running the latest build.

                                          Is there anyway to install the freebsd proliant tools?  http://people.freebsd.org/~jcagle/  :'(  or can the developers create a package?

                                          The issue is that when the system board senses a high temp alert, it kicks the fan into high speed and without software it remains in high speed until you reboot the box.

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