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    • J
      jwelter99
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      @Nachtfalke:

      <snipped>PS: Please do not install squid or such stupid things on a LAN party. Not all games like it if you connect through a proxy and it makes no sense to "cache" any data. You want to play and this game data you cannot cache. Forget about squid for that.</snipped>

      In my prior experience a lot of LAN parties involve downloading drivers, games, game levels, etc.  All of these work well coming from Squid and can reduce the bandwidth usage a lot.

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        kxx
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        @jwelter99:

        @Nachtfalke:

        <snipped>PS: Please do not install squid or such stupid things on a LAN party. Not all games like it if you connect through a proxy and it makes no sense to "cache" any data. You want to play and this game data you cannot cache. Forget about squid for that.</snipped>

        In my prior experience a lot of LAN parties involve downloading drivers, games, game levels, etc.  All of these work well coming from Squid and can reduce the bandwidth usage a lot.

        We've been given a very large bandwidth and because of this I'm willing to not install Squid. It simplifies the network setup and I don't really see it necessary.

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        • GruensFroeschliG
          GruensFroeschli
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          We usual provide a "public" r/w fileserver which is intended to store all updates, maps, ect. for everyone.
          If something is missing anyone can upload it.

          We do what we must, because we can.

          Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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            kxx
            last edited by

            @GruensFroeschli:

            We usual provide a "public" r/w fileserver which is intended to store all updates, maps, ect. for everyone.
            If something is missing anyone can upload it.

            Well, considering that we're going to have a large amount of bandwidth and a "larger-than-needed" machine to handle the connections, is it possible to also setup a file hosting server that runs simultaneously with pfSense? I was thinking something like a simple HTTP or FTP server, nothing fancy. It is running on Linux, so maybe we could provide a 3rd party app to run on the kernel that pfSense provides?

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              kxx
              last edited by

              @kxx:

              Is it possible to also setup a file hosting server that runs simultaneously with pfSense? I was thinking something like a simple HTTP or FTP server, nothing fancy. It is running on Linux, so maybe we could provide a 3rd party app to run on the kernel that pfSense provides?

              Does anyone know if this could be accomplished using on of the addons for pfSense?

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                Nachtfalke
                last edited by

                @kxx:

                @kxx:

                Is it possible to also setup a file hosting server that runs simultaneously with pfSense? I was thinking something like a simple HTTP or FTP server, nothing fancy. It is running on Linux, so maybe we could provide a 3rd party app to run on the kernel that pfSense provides?

                Does anyone know if this could be accomplished using on of the addons for pfSense?

                I "fileserver-tool" is not a common package what should be used on a firewall.
                Something similar to pfsense is "freenas".
                http://www.freenas.org/

                You can use "Proxmox"
                http://www.proxmox.com/
                as virtualization basis. Then virtualize pfsense for routing and freenas as storage system.

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                  kxx
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                  @Nachtfalke:

                  I "fileserver-tool" is not a common package what should be used on a firewall.
                  Something similar to pfsense is "freenas".
                  http://www.freenas.org/

                  Silly me, of course not! FreeNAS looks like it's what we'll need! Thank you for that!

                  @Nachtfalke:

                  You can use "Proxmox"
                  http://www.proxmox.com/
                  as virtualization basis. Then virtualize pfsense for routing and freenas as storage system.

                  To me, Proxmox appears as a Mail Gateway. How could I use it to virtualize pfsense and freenas? Also, what does "virutralize" mean? :P

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                    Nachtfalke
                    last edited by

                    @kxx:

                    @Nachtfalke:

                    (…)
                    To me, Proxmox appears as a Mail Gateway. How could I use it to virtualize pfsense and freenas? Also, what does "virutralize" mean? :P

                    :P

                    http://www.proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve

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                      kxx
                      last edited by

                      @Nachtfalke:

                      http://www.proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve

                      I wasn't even looking for that, thank you! The machine we're building for our network doesn't have a harddrive.
                      How would you go about installing Proxmox, FreeNAS and pfSense? Extract the files like so?:

                      
                      G:\ [USB drive root]
                        |
                        +pfSense--- [folder]
                           |
                           |... [files from pfSense image]
                        +FreeNAS--- [folder]
                           |
                           |... [files from FreeNAS image]
                        +Proxmox---  [folder]
                           |
                           |... [files from Proxmox image]
                      
                      

                      then mount the USB drive and … ? The HDD is blank from install, so I don't know how I am going to do something like this.

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                        Metu69salemi
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                        usb-drive? i wouldn't even dream about running virtualhost with two clients on usb-drive. It just taste like bad christmas meal

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                          kxx
                          last edited by

                          @Metu69salemi:

                          usb-drive? i wouldn't even dream about running virtualhost with two clients on usb-drive. It just taste like bad christmas meal

                          The install will be from an usb-drive, as in, we will boot from an usb drive to install different things. The installation itself will be on a hard drive (as mentioned in my original post).

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                            Metu69salemi
                            last edited by

                            aah ok, I haven't used Proxmox-ve by myself so i don't know if it supports or not installing from usb-drive

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              You could try this:
                              http://code.google.com/p/pfsense-cacheboy/wiki/Pfsense_Samba
                              Though I haven't tried it and I can't recommend it!  ::)

                              Steve

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                              • GruensFroeschliG
                                GruensFroeschli
                                last edited by

                                Is there a special reason why you want to have everything on the same machine?
                                Keep everything as simple as possible.
                                I bet you have somewhere a 5 year old machine lying around that noone uses.
                                It doesn't have to be fast, just be able to serve files :)

                                We do what we must, because we can.

                                Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                  kxx
                                  last edited by

                                  @GruensFroeschli:

                                  Is there a special reason why you want to have everything on the same machine?
                                  Keep everything as simple as possible.
                                  I bet you have somewhere a 5 year old machine lying around that noone uses.
                                  It doesn't have to be fast, just be able to serve files :)

                                  After realizing that the built-in CPU doesn't even support Proxmox VE (due to the lack of VX-T on the Intel Atom), I decided that we'll just run the fileserver on another machine. The reason why I wanted to have things on one machine was because that the machine we're building has the capacity to support it, albeit not the hardware requirements. Plus, it makes things look neat! :-)

                                  Also: I managed to get both pfSense and FreeNAS up and running in a virtual environment yesterday, although the pfSense wasn't running as I wanted it to (because I only have 1 NIC in my computer). But still, things are looking brighter and brighter! I'm actually excited for this project: Getting the budget approved, ordering the hardware, having it delivered, installing, configuration… Everything! I really look forward to the setting up the hardware and installing pfSense, it actually excites me!

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                                    kxx
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10:

                                    You could try this:
                                    http://code.google.com/p/pfsense-cacheboy/wiki/Pfsense_Samba
                                    Though I haven't tried it and I can't recommend it!  ::)

                                    Steve

                                    Although it looks like the exact thing that I'd want, I've decided to just run the FreeNAS fileserver on a separate machine.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Good decision.  :)

                                      Steve

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                                        kxx
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10:

                                        Good decision.  :)

                                        Yeah, I figured since I already knew how to setup FreeNAS that it wouldn't be a problem running it from another machine. By the way, I tried installing the pfSense-Mamba in my Virutal Machine setup of pfSense… Turns out the whole installation will fail, as the requested package repository is offline (seems to have been permanently removed).

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                                          skipzoid
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                                          I would suggest you also set your self up a free opendns account and turn on most of the options.

                                          Two reasons, it will help you control your users in the form of stopping them accessing high bandwidth source sand consuming your bandwidth -although I don't think you're going to have bandwidth issues per say.

                                          The other thing it will help with is that you have a responsibility to prevent the cconnection being used for illegal use. Sounds very big brother, but sadly the digital economy bill does apply to what you are doing.

                                          You can't possibly know what is installed on each computer on your network, what they are going to download. Etc,

                                          We use pfsense in two locations, one is holiday apartments and the other is a leisure facility, you'll be surprised what appears on the blocked domains list report generated by opendns. And these are family environments…...oooooo

                                          Good luck with your project.

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