[OFF-TOPIC] - FreeBSD 9.0 RELEASE
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Great news!
AFAIK in FreeBSD 9.0 pf was upgraded from OpenBSD 4.1 to 4.5 (released in May-2009).
Will the latest OS support CARP with only one public IP?
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Will the latest OS support CARP with only one public IP?
good question!
Just testing to verify. If you have any information about it, be sure to share! :-)
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I believe there were some CARP changes but they didn't go into 9.0, they are in 9-STABLE though if I heard right.
We might be pulling those in before 2.1 goes, but first we're still trying to get 9.0 builds to work at all. :-)
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Now is the time of PC BSD 9.0 - For those who use or want to use FreeBSD on your desktop! ;)
mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/9.0/amd64/PCBSD9.0-x64-DVD.iso
mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/9.0/i386/PCBSD9.0-x86-DVD.iso[]'s
Jack -
Do you use PC-BSD?
How does it compare with Ubuntu? I guess not being stuck with Unity would be a huge advantage! ::)Steve
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Do you use PC-BSD?
How does it compare with Ubuntu? I guess not being stuck with Unity would be a huge advantage! ::)Steve,
Tools are fundamentally different. Actually the KDE/GNOME/LXDE/XFCE windows manager (a very robust applications) gives a certain advantage to the PC-BSD compared to Ubuntu. Unity used by Canonical is still premature because new concepts and pays back the price of natural maturation.
Anyway, the differences between Ubuntu and PC-BSD go far beyond the window manager, obviously (Linux X BSD). These are projects with different objectives and philosophies. Particularly like the two solutions and use in according to the situation. ;)
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Jack -
Actually the KDE/GNOME/LXDE/XFCE windows manager (a very robust applications) gives a certain advantage to the PC-BSD compared to Ubuntu. Unity used by Canonical is still premature because new concepts and pays back the price of natural maturation.
Actually you can use all of the abovementioned desktop environments with Ubuntu … In fact am using Ubuntu 11.04 w/ GNOME to type this post.
But I imagine that PC-BSD won't be a suitable desktop OS for most people, at least until hardware driver support (particularly wifi support) improves considerably. On the other hard, support for new hardware by Linux is becoming almost as good as for Windows lately, i.e. one doesn't have to wait years before one can use the latest hardware (graphics cards, wifi etc).
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Actually you can use all of the abovementioned desktop environments with Ubuntu … In fact am using Ubuntu 11.04 w/ GNOME to type this post.
Certainly … But the colleague asked about the Unity (which is the default environment) on Ubuntu. So I commented on the Unity be "naturally" premature. ;)
But I imagine that PC-BSD won't be a suitable desktop OS for most people, at least until hardware driver support (particularly wifi support) improves considerably. On the other hard, support for new hardware by Linux is becoming almost as good as for Windows lately, i.e. one doesn't have to wait years before one can use the latest hardware (graphics cards, wifi etc).
I agree with you. As mentioned above, are actually tools with focus, histories, philosophies and different levels of maturity. There is no way "mathematics" as possible for comparison.
But I recommend installing and testing the PC-BSD … Especially if you're a sysadmin and BSD like to have a homogeneous environment to support server and desktop while working! ;)
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Jack -
I think we could all agree that anyone posting here does not fall into the category "most users". For the majority of computer users if it can run any web browser it can do 90% of what is required.
I currently run Ubuntu 11.04, with unity turned off, on my laptop which is the computer I usually use. I would like to use PC-BSD since it would occasionally make life easier for me interacting with pfSense, especially when 2.1 builds become available. Also only having to remember one set of command line instructions would be nice!
The majority of what I do can be accomplished in any web browser which would obviously not be a problem but I agree I think the decision will come down to how the hardware is supported. I guess I'll try it and see. :)
Steve
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FreeBSD 9.0 ISOs were re-generated because there was a missing file. Who has fallen to download again. Ideally, wait for the official announcement before use.
The file was missing the "cdrom.inf," and because of that the installation of packages at installation did not work.
Source: http://www.fug.com.br/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,81/
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Jack -
Yep, that's why it's always best to wait. :-)
I used freebsd-update to get my VM to up -RELEASE and that worked wonderfully though.
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Now it's official :D
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes.html
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buildkernel power!!! :D
