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      Unubtanium
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      I am going to make a firewall with Intel Desktop Board DN2800MT plus a dual intel nic and use the box from a dead firebox x550e. I am going to try to use  the LCD from the firebox and use the fans too, but i am going to dump the old power supply from the firebox because the lovely Intel board takes 12V DC  ;D  ;D

      I have made this thread so that other people that are interested may follow my new firewall project.

      The supplyers E.T.A. for my board is 2-3 weeks so here i have to be patient..

      Please do not hesitate to drop me some recommendations and suggestions about this build!

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        Unubtanium
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        Does anyone know if there will be a performances  loose if i user one of this:

        PCI-E 1X Slot Riser Card Extender Extension Ribbon Flex Relocate Cable Ribbon
        http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCI-E-1X-Slot-Riser-Card-Extender-Extension-Ribbon-Flex-Relocate-Cable-Ribbon-/300614117296?pt=FR_GH_Informatique_Composants_Cartes_SCSI_PCI_USB&hash=item45fdff67b0

        ??????

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          dreamslacker
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          It might be more cost effective to use a D2500CC and buy a picopsu instead.  Flexi

          The D2500CC already comes with 2 x 82574L Intel GBe onboard so you won't need an additional PCIe adapter.

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            Unubtanium
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            @dreamslacker:

            It might be more cost effective to use a D2500CC and buy a picopsu instead.  Flexi

            The D2500CC already comes with 2 x 82574L Intel GBe onboard so you won't need an additional PCIe adapter.

            Thanks for the suggestion Dreamslacker

            Most say that i like that board alot, but i have allready ordered my DN2800MT, and i would need extra NIC's.
            because i have a setup like this:
            1 X WAN, 1 X LAN, 1 X WIFI and 1 X LAN2 for NAS

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              dreamslacker
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              Ah..  I see.

              Well, you can get this flexible riser instead:
              http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/PCI-E-Extension-Cable-1X-16X-Riser-Extender-Card-/160616073698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256576c9e2

              Although the riser is still limited to x1 lane PCIe bandwidth, it does open up the doors for other NICs like a dual-NIC with PCIe x4 interface.  The 250MB/s bandwidth of the x1 lane is about enough for 2 x GBe (not that the Atom would do that kind of bandwidth to begin with).

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                Unubtanium
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                @dreamslacker:

                Ah..  I see.

                Well, you can get this flexible riser instead:
                http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/PCI-E-Extension-Cable-1X-16X-Riser-Extender-Card-/160616073698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256576c9e2

                Although the riser is still limited to x1 lane PCIe bandwidth, it does open up the doors for other NICs like a dual-NIC with PCIe x4 interface.  The 250MB/s bandwidth of the x1 lane is about enough for 2 x GBe (not that the Atom would do that kind of bandwidth to begin with).

                Thanks for the info DreamSlacker, i will get one of them to use with my Dual intel nic pci-e x4. 
                And i am looking forward to see what numbers we can get out of this setup when crunch the through output on this setup and see hos much power it it takes on idle and max power!

                And if Anyone have a pointer to how i can solve this little connection problem i would be must grateful:
                I need to make the WG Firebox LCD connector that is 2.0 pitch mm to go into the 2.5 mm pitch on the MB.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Is it 2mm pitch at both ends?

                  You may be able to remove the pins from the 2mm pitch connector block and put them into a similar 0.1" block. Fiddly though.

                  Steve

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                    Unubtanium
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                    @stephenw10:

                    Is it 2mm pitch at both ends?

                    You may be able to remove the pins from the 2mm pitch connector block and put them into a similar 0.1" block. Fiddly though.

                    Steve

                    Jupp it is 2mm in both ends of the cable, think i might get one of this and fiddle with that:
                    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/headers-pcb-receptacles/6706561/ NOt sure yet but will look around on  RS's shop to see if i find something more convenient
                    But i am going to check out the LCD on my old x500 after work, because i like the LCD color in that one more than the x550e LCD..   ;D

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                      Unubtanium
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                      Found this:
                      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IDC-Cable-Mounting-Socket-Connector-26-Way-Pack-5-/300544056066?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item45f9d25b02

                      Will give it a go and see if i can convert one end of the cable.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        That could work.
                        You are going to have to check the connections somehow though.

                        Steve

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                          dreamslacker
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                          You will need to check the pin-out on the Firebox side.  I'm almost certain that it doesn't line up pin for pin with the header on the Intel board.  TBH, it is probably easier to just hack a cheapo HD44780 LCD off ebay into that case.

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                            Unubtanium
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                            @dreamslacker:

                            You will need to check the pin-out on the Firebox side.  I'm almost certain that it doesn't line up pin for pin with the header on the Intel board.  TBH, it is probably easier to just hack a cheapo HD44780 LCD off ebay into that case.

                            Tnx again for the pointer to the LCD, you really know your hardware.  ;)

                            IF the Firebox LCD give me alot of problems, i then will replace it with a cheap HD44780.
                            But will give it a goooood go to get the firebox one to work because i am trying to reuse as much hardware as i can, and i do like a good challenge  when it comes to make things just work..  8)

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                              dreamslacker
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                              @Unubtanium:

                              Tnx again for the pointer to the LCD, you really know your hardware.   ;)

                              IF the Firebox LCD give me alot of problems, i then will replace it with a cheap HD44780.
                              But will give it a goooood go to get the firebox one to work because i am trying to reuse as much hardware as i can, and i do like a good challenge  when it comes to make things just work..  8)

                              It's probably going to be a tough attempt..  If anyone has the pinout for either the LCD or the original board, then it wouldn't be much of a problem.  Otherwise, I reckon a logic analyzer to sniff on the pins would be needed.

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                                joostmnl
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                                I'm on a similar route; I want to build a NAS with the DN2800MT. I'm very interested in your experiences. I haven't ordered yet as I need time to build it. I also need 3 x LAN: 1 x LAN, 1 x WAN and 1 for WiFi.

                                All dual port NIC's I came across have a x2 or a x4 card size. I believe these card would work in a x1 slot but it just doesn't fit.
                                I selected these PCIe risers to convert from the x1 slot on the board to the x2 for the card: http://www.ameri-rack.com/ARC1-PEX16_m.html

                                Best regards, Joost

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                                  Unubtanium
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                                  @joostmnl:

                                  I'm on a similar route; I want to build a NAS with the DN2800MT. I'm very interested in your experiences. I haven't ordered yet as I need time to build it. I also need 3 x LAN: 1 x LAN, 1 x WAN and 1 for WiFi.

                                  All dual port NIC's I came across have a x2 or a x4 card size. I believe these card would work in a x1 slot but it just doesn't fit.
                                  I selected these PCIe risers to convert from the x1 slot on the board to the x2 for the card: http://www.ameri-rack.com/ARC1-PEX16_m.html

                                  Best regards, Joost

                                  Hi Joost

                                  I am more than happy to share any experience with this MB, just keep an eye on this thread for i will update it with all the info i think is relevant.

                                  But one thing you should think about is what Dreamslacker said is that with the 1x Pci-e bandwidth we are limited and that the atom cpu is not too great for shoving alot info… Just mentioning it because you said you are using it for a NAS.

                                  8)

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                                    dreamslacker
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                                    Just to confirm, I have used the Intel PT dual port gigabit server adapter with PCIe x1 (x1 in x4 open back slot) before and it works just fine.

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                                      Unubtanium
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                                      @dreamslacker:

                                      It's probably going to be a tough attempt..  If anyone has the pinout for either the LCD or the original board, then it wouldn't be much of a problem.  Otherwise, I reckon a logic analyzer to sniff on the pins would be needed.

                                      After taking the LCD board of the 2nd board with the 4 buttons on, it shows 16 pins connector.
                                      See pics attached, so here is the question, is there ANY chance that they are using a HD44780 controller and that i can use this schema to connect it??  http://lcdsmartie.sourceforge.net/circuits.htm

                                      Will look for and old PC with a parallel port and test.. Have nothing to loose  ;D  ;D

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        @Unubtanium:

                                        is there ANY chance that they are using a HD44780 controller

                                        Nope!

                                        The keypad is just connected across 4 of the input lines on the parallel port.

                                        Steve

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                                          Unubtanium
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                                          @stephenw10:

                                          Nope!

                                          Steve

                                          Damn, so in you best opinion should i just give it up and get a cheap HD44780 LCD??
                                          Would be like a small defeat, but i can take that..

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                                            dreamslacker
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                                            @Unubtanium:

                                            Damn, so in you best opinion should i just give it up and get a cheap HD44780 LCD??
                                            Would be like a small defeat, but i can take that..

                                            Probably the most cost effective method.  A HD44780 LCD can be had for less than US$12 inclusive of shipping on ebay.  i'm sure your time spent trying to reverse engineer the Firebox LCD would be worth more than that.

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