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    Successful Install on Igel 4210 LX Winestra thin client

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      robi
      last edited by

      The motherboard in this box is perfectly recognized by mbmon, so temperature display in the Dashboard is possible.

      Steps to enable this follow (v2.0.1-RELEASE (i386) / nanobsd_vga):

      /etc/rc.conf_mount_rw
      
      setenv PACKAGESITE "http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/"
      
      pkg_add -r mbmon
      

      test to see if mbmon works:

      [2.0.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bubu]/root(4): mbmon -I -r -c 1
      TEMP0 : 49.0
      TEMP1 : 53.5
      TEMP2 :  0.0
      FAN0  :    0
      FAN1  :    0
      FAN2  :    0
      VC0   :  +1.01
      VC1   :  +0.03
      V33   :  +3.36
      V50P  :  +5.03
      V12P  :  +8.27
      V12N  :  -3.56
      V50N  :  -0.67
      
      

      in /usr/local/www/includes/functions.inc.php change functions according:

      function has_temp() {
      	return true;
      }
      
      

      and

      function get_temp() {
      	$cpu_temp_from_mbmon=`mbmon -I -T 2 -c 1`;
      
      	return $cpu_temp_from_mbmon;
      }
      

      at the end, don't forget to

      /etc/rc.conf_mount_ro
      

      pfsense_igel_winestra_temp.png
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        robi
        last edited by

        I just bought a second one, 100% satisfaction with this seller:

        http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270891123063&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:1123

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          robi
          last edited by

          Update: The Intel Dual Port 10/100 PCI Network Card (703875-004, E139761, 9213p referred as Dell, but absolutely no Dell trademark is present on mine) fits perfectly in the box and operates flawlessly in pfSense, it's detected as two Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet cards.

          Can be bought for $10-$20 on eBay.

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            Clinxer
            last edited by

            Hello,
            I bought a IGEL 4210lx winestra on ebay and have administrator password. IGEL not supported and the seller does not give me any solution.
            Maybe if someone could send me the link dump of the compactflash could solve my problem.
            Any help is good.

            Thanks

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              robi
              last edited by

              You don't need the original compactflash to install pfSense. It's too small for that. Get a bigger one. I use 4GB CF cards in both units, they run pfSense perfectly.
              BIOS password can be cleared with a jumper near the battery, old Igel system password goes away with the old CF…

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                Clinxer
                last edited by

                Thank you for your answer.

                Before installing pfSense I would like to try the original software that comes with the IGEL but I can not because there administrator password in linux. Therefore seek a dump of the original CF.

                Thanks again.

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                  robi
                  last edited by

                  Grab a dump from here: CF1_128mb_bak_dump_dd.rar - 82.2 MB

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                    Clinxer
                    last edited by

                    Many thanks for your help. I have it working.
                    I bought it on ebay at the following link

                    http://www.ebay.es/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360430734166&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:ES:1123

                    and the vendor "www-kreher-org" does not respond to the problem. IGEL does not support private clients.

                    Thanks to your help works. If you come to Spain you have a beer paid.

                    A greeting.

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                      robi
                      last edited by

                      You're welcome. I didn't know at first that you actually needed the factory CF image.

                      Cheers!

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                        robi
                        last edited by

                        After further research I found that the motherboard type is WinNET P680, this is the same board that is used in the HP/Neoware e140 thin client (aka CA22).

                        Although the Via CN700 system chip according to the specs supports up to 2GB of RAM, it seems that on this mobo max 1GB can be installed. Additionally, not any DDR2 module of 1 GB is recognized by the bios, looks like this one will only support 4 memory banks on the module.

                        Here's a screenshot performing with the factory 256MB or RAM.

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                          WhiteSpy
                          last edited by

                          Hi,

                          on my IGEL (got the same one since a couple of months), 512MB is max. recognized. I've testet a few different 1GB modules, but got only error-beeps after turning it on (with BIOS v5.03.x), only 512MB ones work. After the upgrade to v5.05.x, I get a short glimpse of the screen after turning it on, but a second later the screen goes black (but no beeping). So I'm still with 512MB…it works flawlessly.

                          Maybe you want to try the v5.05 (that's the newest version for the WinNET P680 I could find):

                          required flashing-tool...just flash it under good old plain DOS :):
                          http://www.mediafire.com/?2d2rok3c104wx5l

                          Here is the link for the v5.05:
                          http://www.mediafire.com/?4xhvt8lrfknh7cz

                          Maybe someone got a newer version, so I can test my 1GB modules again :)

                          Greetings from Germany

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                            robi
                            last edited by

                            Is this a bios for Igel 4210 LX / WinNET P680 ?

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                              WhiteSpy
                              last edited by

                              Yes, it is for the WinNET P680 Board :)

                              I suggest to do backup of your installed BIOS (option for that is integrated in the flash.exe) as I did.

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                                robi
                                last edited by

                                Did you try coreboot bios on this motheboard? Compatibility description here.

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                                  WhiteSpy
                                  last edited by

                                  I read about it, but it sounds a bit too "alpha" to me.

                                  For now, my IGEL is running on the v5.05 BIOS with a normal installation of pfsense on a 8GB CF, 512MB module and a Intel PRO 1000GT Dual port NIC. I just wanted to find a way to get the 1GB module working :)

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                                    robi
                                    last edited by

                                    Mee too! I was hoping maybe someone has experience with that open source bios also…

                                    Anyway, thanks for this v5.05, I'll see tomorrow how it performs. Where did you find it btw?

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                                      WhiteSpy
                                      last edited by

                                      I can't remember exactly. The only thing I know, it wasn't easy to find information about that particular board. I got those files off a forum at the end of the internet ;)

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                                        robi
                                        last edited by

                                        WhiteSpy, the BIOS you gave is not v5.05.

                                        My box had originally v5.05, but I just flashed what you gave, and after reboot it displays V:5.07.1B-091208
                                        The BIOS interface looks a bit different, there's a new item in Standard CMOS Features called Firmware Information, which shows product name, version, BIOS version, etc. Also there's a new full-screen bootlogo which shows "Neoware" at startup (can be disabled).

                                        From the 3 pcs of 1GB SO-DIMMs I have, one is seen 'til 512MB, with the other two it doesn't even boot up. Screen goes white, beeps, etc…
                                        Situation was similar before BIOS upgrade.

                                        All SO-DIMMs have 8 chips on them. I think I need to look for a module with 4 chips.

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                                          WhiteSpy
                                          last edited by

                                          Ah ok, you're right. 5.05 to 5.07…my fault ;)

                                          I remember, this BIOS is used in the HP Neoware Thin Client. With the old version (v5.05), I got a problem using the DVI-Port (only half of the screen showed up in BIOS for example). That problem went away with v5.07.

                                          And for the DIMMs...mine also got 8 chips and none of them is beeing recognized correctly. Maybe we have success with 4 chips modules  ;D

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                                            robi
                                            last edited by

                                            Good news!

                                            I found two 1GB modules which work perfectly with this motherboard! They are the following:

                                            • Samsung M470T2953EZ3-CE6 (1 GB, DDR2 RAM, 667 MHz, SO DIMM 200-pin)

                                            • Unifosa GU331G0AJEPN6E2L4GG (1GB ELPIDA DDR2-667 PC2-5300 SODIMM)

                                            They are capable of 667 MHz, but on this board they run at 533, as the spec. says. Surprisingly, the Samsung module is not checked by the bios (it doesn't count up from 0 to 1GB) but it's being recognized correctly by the os.

                                            And guess what, they are both loaded with 16 chips (8 on each side). My colleague got them from broken laptops, gave him in exchange the other incompatible modules I had. :D :D :D

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