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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • B Offline
      BattleCruiser
      last edited by

      Thank you every one for your help.

      dotdash I am going to try the write on another machine when I get a sata to msata adapter in and try that.

      Jimp I have been able to do an embedded install from the memstick file but everyone has scared me about this due to the msata being a Transcend 16GB MLC mSATA SSD.

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      • jimpJ Offline
        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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        Once you boot that you can run something like:

        fetch -o - http://files.chi.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-4g-amd64-nanobsd.img.gz | gzip -dc | dd of=/dev/ad4 obs=64k

        Where ad4 is the mSATA disk, not sure if it will be ad2, ad4, or ad6.

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          BattleCruiser
          last edited by

          @jimp:

          Once you boot that you can run something like:

          fetch -o - http://files.chi.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-4g-amd64-nanobsd.img.gz | gzip -dc | dd of=/dev/ad4 obs=64k

          Where ad4 is the mSATA disk, not sure if it will be ad2, ad4, or ad6.

          Just to make sure Jimp:

          but do you mean, when I get to the pfsense boot menu and i use menu #7 the enter the fetch line?

          Once again thanks for helping a newbie, and sorry for the silly questions I ask, its been 30 years since I have really worked with anything but windows and dos.

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          • jimpJ Offline
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
            last edited by

            boot the memstick I linked, then press 8 to go to a shell prompt, then type that

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              BattleCruiser
              last edited by

              Thank you Jimp, I will try tonight and let you know tomorrow.

              and once again thank you for the help it is much appreciated.

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              • B Offline
                BattleCruiser
                last edited by

                Hi Jimp,

                Just to give you and update, I could not get the install going as you suggested with the memstick version.  When it completed booting in the serial console, it would stop at Booting Complete, and not allow me to go to the shell command.

                This is not an issue at this time as I have an adapter in shipment and will write the nanobsd to the msata and then change the drive location.

                Thank you for your help, it was greatly appreciated, and I look forward to getting pfsense up and going next week.

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                • dotdashD Offline
                  dotdash
                  last edited by

                  Somebody has some notes on the 6501 which I'm too lazy to search for, but if it fails trying to mount root you need to hit a key at the countdown to interrupt the boot. Then you have to
                  set kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                  boot
                  Once it boots, you have to create a loader.conf.local in /boot with
                  kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                  to make it permanent.

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                  • C Offline
                    caldwell
                    last edited by

                    @dotdash:

                    Somebody has some notes on the 6501 which I'm too lazy to search for, but if it fails trying to mount root you need to hit a key at the countdown to interrupt the boot. Then you have to
                    set kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                    boot
                    Once it boots, you have to create a loader.conf.local in /boot with
                    kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                    to make it permanent.

                    No matter which image I use, I get the soekris memory test, the 5-4-3-2-1 countdown, and then nothing after that.  I've ordered an mSATA converter, but it's frustrating that there isn't a good solution to this other than more hardware.

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                    • jimpJ Offline
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                      The fact that it works for everyone else but not you might indicate something wrong with your board or the process you're doing. Before anything else, make sure you're on the latest BIOS.

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                        caldwell
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                        @jimp:

                        The fact that it works for everyone else but not you might indicate something wrong with your board or the process you're doing. Before anything else, make sure you're on the latest BIOS.

                        Either Soekris is in the habit of shipping bad boards, or something has changed.  I read this thread and said, "Hmm.  Sounds a lot like the thread I started 2-3 days ago saying the same things."

                        I used dd on a Mac to copy numerous images to the 4 GB USB drive.  It never would boot on the Soekris 6501.  I got the same thing:  memory check, countdown 5-4-3-2-1.  Then nothing.

                        How many people buy into the odds that Soekris shipped two bad units to two pfsense users scattered remotely apart from each other?  I don't.

                        My firmware is 1.41a (USB-bootable, according to Soekris).

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                        • jimpJ Offline
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                          If you read back on the Soekris boards you'll also find that it's very picky about the USB sticks it will boot from, I was posting in a thread when the USB code came out with Soren and out of the dozen or so USB sticks I have, I only managed to get it to boot from one. He was trying to acquire a bunch of different sticks to try to narrow down the issue but I'm not sure what happened there, hasn't had an update in a while.

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                            caldwell
                            last edited by

                            @jimp:

                            If you read back on the Soekris boards you'll also find that it's very picky about the USB sticks it will boot from, I was posting in a thread when the USB code came out with Soren and out of the dozen or so USB sticks I have, I only managed to get it to boot from one. He was trying to acquire a bunch of different sticks to try to narrow down the issue but I'm not sure what happened there, hasn't had an update in a while.

                            Well, this unit is using the 4GB Sandisk Cruiser (tiny thing) that Soekris sells WITH the unit.  You'd think it would work…

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                            • jimpJ Offline
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                              You'd think so… I haven't had my hands on one of those, though. The one stick I was able to boot from was a Sandisk though. You might try some of the other ports on the box.

                              I have had lots of positive feedback from people using my serial memstick and it works for most of us.

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                              • dotdashD Offline
                                dotdash
                                last edited by

                                @caldwell:

                                Well, this unit is using the 4GB Sandisk Cruiser (tiny thing) that Soekris sells WITH the unit.  You'd think it would work…

                                I used the 4GB Sandisk from Soekris in the last two 6501's I setup. They had the 1.41a bios. It works for me (TM)
                                Either you did something wrong, or there is an issue with your 6501 or USB stick.
                                I would try to boot a laptop or something with the USB image. If you can boot another machine with the USB stick, you will know the image is good.
                                P.S. It's generally considered poor form to hijack a 'related' thread when you have one of your own open.

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                                  dendt
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                                  I installed my first Soekris 6501 today with cheapo usb stick, using the jimp serial image on files.pfsense.org.
                                  I installed it to a 32GB Kingston SSD.
                                  Worked like a charm.

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                                    caldwell
                                    last edited by

                                    @dotdash:

                                    P.S. It's generally considered poor form to hijack a 'related' thread when you have one of your own open.

                                    Yeah ….  hijack  .......   right.  Someone started a new thread almost identical to the one I had started a day before with the same issue.  You think I might be interested in comments on both threads since they relate ? ? ? ? ?  Or did you think that someone might respond to mine and not his with different answers?  In case you don't think so, read the two discussions.  They have.

                                    If he had commented on my already-open-thread and said, "I have the same issue," I wouldn't have minded a bit.

                                    For those who miss the other thread, here's the update I posted there:

                                    BUT NOW IT WILL BOOT OFF USB if I do not put the SSD card in the unit.

                                    Here's what I did.  Plugged an ethernet cable into the unit.  That's it.  No changes of any other kind.

                                    It will boot off USB with the SATA drive in the Soekris but without the internal SSD.

                                    It will NOT boot off the USB if the SSD drive is installed in EITHER SSD slot.

                                    I don't know if this indicates a bad SSD drive, bad Soekris motherboard or what.  It was all purchased from Soekris, so presumably they will make it good for the end customer who purchased it.

                                    Strange…

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                                    • dotdashD Offline
                                      dotdash
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                                      It's also poor form to cop an attitude with people trying to help you. Good luck, I'm out of this one.

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                                      • J Offline
                                        Jeff_Aus
                                        last edited by

                                        I have the exact same problem on soekris 6501, boots happily off the Sandisk USB but if I plug in my mSATA drive supplied by Soekris it won't boot anything :(

                                        I wanted to boot off the USB then install onto my SATA drive in the installation menu.

                                        Any update on this?

                                        Cheers

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                                        • J Offline
                                          Jeff_Aus
                                          last edited by

                                          Just to wrap this up for any future searchers on this problem I have found a solution that works for me.

                                          With the USB SanDisk and mSata in the Soekris 6501 change the BootDrive to

                                          81, FF ,FF, FF

                                          with the command

                                          set bootdrive=81

                                          This forces the USB drive to boot first which then lets you install the pfsense onto the mSATA drives.

                                          To boot from the mSata drive change the boot order back to 80 which is the mSata drive with

                                          set bootdrive=80

                                          This all works perfectly. This pissed me off all day but it works. I hate working with console cables and terminal screens!

                                          Good luck

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