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    [SOLVED] WAN of pfsense box2 from LAN of psense box1?

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      jikjik101
      last edited by

      @wallabybob:

      From the console of box2 does a```
      ping 10.10.10.1

      Yes

      @wallabybob:

      From a LAN client of box2 does a```
      ping 10.10.10.1

      Yes
      My client IP is 192.168.100.13 from the DHCP of LAN of Box2.

      But from the console of box1,

      ping 10.10.10.2
      

      100% packet loss.

      And still no internet connection from the LAN client of Box2 or from Box2 itself.
      From a LAN client of box2 does a```
      ping google.com

      
      From the console of box2 does a```
      ping google.com
      ```100% packet loss.
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        wallabybob
        last edited by

        @jikjik101:

        But from the console of box1,

        ping 10.10.10.2
        

        100% packet loss.

        This is hard to explain in the light of the reports of successful pings from the box2 console.

        Please report the output from the following commands on the box1 console:```

        ping -c 5 10.10.10.2; arp -an; netstat -rn -f inet; ifconfig -a

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          jikjik101
          last edited by

          $ ping -c 5 10.10.10.2; arp -an; netstat -rn -f inet; ifconfig -a
          PING 10.10.10.2 (10.10.10.2): 56 data bytes
          
          --- 10.10.10.2 ping statistics ---
          5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
          ? (10.10.10.2) at 00:0c:29:f5:5a:bb on le1 expires in 911 seconds [ethernet]
          ? (10.10.10.3) at 00:50:56:c0:00:04 on le1 expires in 1173 seconds [ethernet]
          ? (10.10.10.1) at 00:0c:29:93:27:ea on le1 permanent [ethernet]
          ? (10.10.10.5) at 00:0c:29:de:27:11 on le1 expires in 1002 seconds [ethernet]
          ? (192.168.20.1) at 00:13:49:98:39:44 on le0 expires in 906 seconds [ethernet]
          ? (192.168.20.33) at 00:0c:29:93:27:e0 on le0 permanent [ethernet]
          Routing tables
          
          Internet:
          Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
          default            192.168.20.1       UGS         0      211    le0
          8.8.8.8            192.168.20.1       UGHS        0      578    le0
          10.10.10.0/24      link#2             U           0     1301    le1
          10.10.10.1         link#2             UHS         0        0    lo0
          127.0.0.1          link#4             UH          0       97    lo0
          192.168.20.0/24    link#1             U           0        0    le0
          192.168.20.33      link#1             UHS         0        0    lo0
          202.84.96.1        00:0c:29:93:27:e0  UHS         0       29    le0
          202.84.96.2        00:0c:29:93:27:e0  UHS         0       23    le0
          le0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
          	options=8 <vlan_mtu>ether 00:0c:29:93:27:e0
          	inet6 fe80::20c:29ff:fe93:27e0%le0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
          	inet 192.168.20.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.20.255
          	nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect
          	status: active
          le1: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
          	options=8 <vlan_mtu>ether 00:0c:29:93:27:ea
          	inet 10.10.10.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255
          	inet6 fe80::20c:29ff:fe93:27ea%le1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 
          	nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect
          	status: active
          plip0: flags=8810 <pointopoint,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
          lo0: flags=8049 <up,loopback,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 16384
          	options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 
          	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
          	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 
          	nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>pflog0: flags=100 <promisc>metric 0 mtu 33200
          pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460
          	syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128
          enc0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1536</promisc></performnud,accept_rtadv></rxcsum,txcsum></up,loopback,running,multicast></pointopoint,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></vlan_mtu></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></vlan_mtu></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
          

          I am doing this inside a vm environment.

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            wallabybob
            last edited by

            Sorry I didn't think of this earlier. Do you have a firewall rule on WAN in box2 allowing icmp echo? Such a rule is necessary since the default is to block traffic initiated from the WAN side.

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              jikjik101
              last edited by

              No rules in WAN of box2.
              I thought it allows everything by default.

              I will put Allow All in WAN of box 2 and check if it works.

              My bad, I forgot this one:
              Rules are evaluated on a first-match basis (i.e. the action of the first rule to match a packet will be executed). This means that if you use block rules, you'll have to pay attention to the rule order. Everything that isn't explicitly passed is blocked by default.

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                jikjik101
                last edited by

                My suspicion is correct, DNS server.
                When I put the Google's DNS, bam, it works.

                Thanks alot wallybybob for your guidance.
                I will treat you with a beer someday.  ;D

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                  phil.davis
                  last edited by

                  I also do this all the time for testing. I have the DNS Forwarder and DHCP going on box 1 (the real internet connection).
                  On box 2 WAN I do one of:

                  • DHCP - then it gets an IP address and the DNS forwarder's address (box1 LAN IP) from box1 LAN; or
                  • specify a box1 LAN IP address for box2 WAN and give it gateway and DNS as box1 LAN IP.
                    box2 does NAT for clients on box2 LAN, then box1 does NAT again for box2 WAN, which it sees as a normal client on box1 LAN. The double-NAT works fine.

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                    wallabybob
                    last edited by

                    @phil.davis:

                    The double-NAT works fine.

                    If I recall correctly some people have reported problems with VoIP and double NAT. I have found that VoIP and double NAT has worked fine for me with recent enough versions of Twinkle and (possibly, I don't recall exactly) Ekiga.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      I have also read about double NAT being a problem but I've never experienced it myself. Two pfSense boxes both NATing has always worked in testing for me. I also ran a separate router in front of my pfSense box for a WAN connection when 1.2.3 could only use one PPPoE connection directly, no problems.

                      Something to be aware of though.

                      Steve

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                        jikjik101
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for that info. Although I have no plans of using the double NAT since I don't know what is double NAT or single NAT ???

                        As long as my system works, no problem.

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