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    Setting up a VLAN part 2

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    • ?
      A Former User
      last edited by

      @Metu69salemi:

      where you do have dns setup?

      it is the default setup.  the only thing i did was point to OpenDNS servers for lookups (and removed the first entry of 127.0.0.1).

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      • ?
        A Former User
        last edited by

        @stephenw10:

        I assume you are using DNS forwarding on pfSense for your DNS service. That's the default.
        You can have pfSense add any client that sends it's host name to the local DNS table.
        Go to Services: DNS Forwarder: and check 'Register DHCP leases in DNS forwarder'.

        This will only kick in when clients renew their DHCP lease so you may have to force that to test.

        Steve

        ok, just did this, i will delete DHCP leases and remote reboot machines and see if that fixes it.

        EDIT- now that i think of it…the device i was trying to access by hostname was statically assigned, this option looks like it is only DHCP related.  that device will never ask for a new address since it is static.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          You can add static dhcp IPs with an option on that same page. Or if you have statically assigned the IP on the client itself you can add it manually in the host overrides table at the bottom.

          If I need to have anything static I always use static DHCP rather then IPs coded at the client. It makes this sort of thing far easier. Also if I do have to change the IP ever it's all centrally stored.

          Steve

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          • ?
            A Former User
            last edited by

            @stephenw10:

            You can add static dhcp IPs with an option on that same page. Or if you have statically assigned the IP on the client itself you can add it manually in the host overrides table at the bottom.

            If I need to have anything static I always use static DHCP rather then IPs coded at the client. It makes this sort of thing far easier. Also if I do have to change the IP ever it's all centrally stored.

            Steve

            makes sense and i am going to look into that, thank you.

            ok, i did that, i added the entry for the static device.

            when i ping it, it resolves to a public internet address not the internal IP…..hmmmm

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              You may have to clear the local dns cache. Make sure your client is using the DNS forwarder.
              You can try using the Diagnostics: DNS Lookup: tool to check pfSense can resolve it correctly.

              Steve

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              • ?
                A Former User
                last edited by

                @stephenw10:

                You may have to clear the local dns cache. Make sure your client is using the DNS forwarder.
                You can try using the Diagnostics: DNS Lookup: tool to check pfSense can resolve it correctly.

                Steve

                DNS lookup in pfsense can see the correct name if i type in the ip and it shows the correct ip if i type in the name.

                but it uses 127.0.0.1, then 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220, finally 192.168.1.1

                i do want my machines to use openDNS server for external lookups, but obviously not for internal lookups, which is what i think it happening, but i could be wrong.

                local cache cleared and my ipconfig looks like this

                ip- 172.10.10.210
                sub- /24
                gate- 172.10.10.1

                dns- 172.10.10.1

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  127.0.0.1 is the local machine, which it is checking first. That seems correct. I don't know why it's looking at 192.168.1.1 though, that sounds wrong.
                  See my screenshots.

                  Steve

                  dnslookup.jpg
                  dnslookup.jpg_thumb
                  pinglocaldns.jpg
                  pinglocaldns.jpg_thumb

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    i know 127 is localhost, but i removed that from the DNS page.

                    my DNS forwarders are 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220, and 192.168.1.1 (for devices that sometimes grab 3 DNS IPs.

                    although, 192.168.1.1 might be wrong and i probably shouldn't keep it in there now that i no longer have a flat network.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      @tomdlgns:

                      my DNS forwarders are 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220, and 192.168.1.1 (for devices that sometimes grab 3 DNS IPs.

                      You mean in System: General Setup: DNS Servers: ?

                      That should only list external DNS servers that pfSense uses for DNS resolution.

                      Steve

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10:

                        @tomdlgns:

                        my DNS forwarders are 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220, and 192.168.1.1 (for devices that sometimes grab 3 DNS IPs.

                        You mean in System: General Setup: DNS Servers: ?

                        That should only list external DNS servers that pfSense uses for DNS resolution.

                        Steve

                        ok, no problem, i will remove the 192 entry, if i do that, then only the openDNS servers remain, but those are in spot 1,2 right now so i dont think it will fix my issue, but i will still remove it.

                        thanks.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Ok. Well yes it has to first use the local DNS table so 127.0.0.1 should show first as in my screenshot.
                          Where exactly did you remove 127.0.0.1 from?

                          pfSense will always use the local DNS table first unless you have checked 'Do not use the DNS Forwarder as a DNS server for the firewall' in System: General Setup: DNS Servers:

                          Steve

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                          • ?
                            A Former User
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10:

                            Ok. Well yes it has to first use the local DNS table so 127.0.0.1 should show first as in my screenshot.
                            Where exactly did you remove 127.0.0.1 from?

                            pfSense will always use the local DNS table first unless you have checked 'Do not use the DNS Forwarder as a DNS server for the firewall' in System: General Setup: DNS Servers:

                            Steve

                            i didnt remove it, i thought i saw an option to uncheck the use of it.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Hmm, that looks fine. Exactly as I have mine set.

                              Yet when you use Diagnostics: DNS Lookup: it doesn't use 127.0.0.1?

                              Steve

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by

                                ok, i just added 127.0.0.1 as the first entry and bumped down the openDNS servers.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10:

                                  Hmm, that looks fine. Exactly as I have mine set.

                                  Yet when you use Diagnostics: DNS Lookup: it doesn't use 127.0.0.1?

                                  Steve

                                  yeah, i think i am going to take it out, if yours doesnt have 127.0.0.1 listed as the first one.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    this is what my settings are as of this post:

                                    C:>ping ds2411

                                    Pinging ds2411.home [192.168.1.254] with 32 bytes of data:
                                    Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
                                    Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
                                    Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
                                    Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

                                    Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
                                        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
                                    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
                                        Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

                                    C:>

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      i think it is a mac thing.  i was trying to ping from my MBP and it was coming back with ds2411 as a public IP address 67.25.xxx.xxx i only x it out because i am not by my MBP and i dont remember the rest of the address.

                                      good news- the option you told me to check a few posts backs when you brought up DHCP worked for windows computers, i tested two computers that were resolving ds2411 to 67.25…..and they now resolve to the correct internal 192.168.1.254 address.

                                      bad news- not working for my mbp.  i tried clearing the cache and releasing/renewing ip...nothing, maybe a reboot?  i havent had the mbp for a long time, not an expert with it/settings on it.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Hmm, well I have almost no mac experience so I'm probably no help.
                                        I would guess that it's using an external dns server some reason. Seems odd though.

                                        What external address is it resolving to? Your WAN address?

                                        Steve

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10:

                                          Hmm, well I have almost no mac experience so I'm probably no help.
                                          I would guess that it's using an external dns server some reason. Seems odd though.

                                          What external address is it resolving to? Your WAN address?

                                          Steve

                                          no, i have no clue, let me see if putting it in google tells me anything.

                                          edit- it looks like that IP address belongs to/is an address that openDNS uses/works with for failed lookups.

                                          it makes sense since i open up a cmd prompt and typed in ping afffaasdf

                                          it came back with the same 67.215 IP address that i get when i type ping ds2411 from the mac.

                                          no worries, this isnt related to pfsense or vlans or DNS since all my other machines are working w/o issues.

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User
                                            last edited by

                                            ok, now lets talk about getting two vlan switches to talk.

                                            right now this is what both switches look like.

                                            8 port-

                                            1- E E E U U U U U
                                            100- T U E E E E E E
                                            200- T E U E E E E E

                                            24 port-

                                            1- U U U U U U U U E E E E E E U U U U U U U U U U
                                            100- E E E E E E E E T U U U E E E E E E E E E E E E
                                            200- E E E E E E E E T E E E U U E E E E E E E E E E

                                            i know i have to link the respective vlan ports to each vlan switch, but do the packets stay labeled as i have them above? or do i need to switch a few things around when linking from switch to switch?

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