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Building a pfSense box

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    wallabybob
    last edited by Aug 9, 2012, 7:47 AM

    @janneb:

    Just a question. Does people not use proxy cache on these embedded / small disk systems?

    I don't. I can't speak for others.

    The original poster asked about "simple" pfSense box. I guess "simple" is a fairly inexact term.

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      dhatz
      last edited by Aug 9, 2012, 10:13 AM

      @janneb:

      Just a question. Does people not use proxy cache on these embedded / small disk systems?

      One should be using such a system only as non-caching proxy (e.g. in order to filter web traffic)

      Squid is a complex beast and instead of improving, it can actually degrade overall user experience, if not configured properly and on a suitable system.

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        jtvd78
        last edited by Aug 9, 2012, 9:26 PM

        Here's my current plan:

        Motherboard/CPU/GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121596  – $80
        Case/PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129080 -- $90
        SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148610 -- $55
        NIC: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106122 -- $32
        RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226019 -- $23

        How does it look?

        For the motherboard, I have an Intel board, with an Intel Atom D2700 CPU. The case is nothing special. It has a 150W PSU, which is more than plenty for this build. The SSD is a 32GB Crucial m4, which connects to the motherboard with a mSATA Connection. The Motherbaord has one of these connections. I will also max out the board with 4GB of RAM, cuz honestly, the RAM is just so cheap, so why not?
        I couldn't find any decently priced Dual port PCI NICs, so ill use the onboard NIC, and a single PCI NIC.

        Am I missing anything? What would you guys change?

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          thevoice
          last edited by Aug 9, 2012, 9:33 PM

          Looks really nice to me… good choice to use intel, both stable and compatible and nice idea for the mini-ITX.

          Is there place to put many NIC inside that?

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            jtvd78
            last edited by Aug 9, 2012, 9:36 PM

            @thevoice:

            Looks really nice to me… good choice to use intel, both stable and compatible and nice idea for the mini-ITX.

            Is there place to put many NIC inside that?

            If you look at the case from the back, you can see that there is a low profile expansion slot. Which is just enough for the NIC that I'm using.

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              thevoice
              last edited by Aug 9, 2012, 9:40 PM

              Perfect, if ever you need more LAN or WAN I think there are low profile network cards… This is the only limitation I can see!

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                tirsojrp
                last edited by Aug 10, 2012, 12:12 AM

                This post looks familiar… and your name too.

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                  jtvd78
                  last edited by Aug 10, 2012, 12:19 AM

                  @tirsojrp:

                  This post looks familiar… and your name too.

                  Hmmm…. I wonder why  :P

                  But really, Its good to get a second opinion. Especially from the communities of the two main distros that I am going to try out on my build. Maybe one forum would pick up on something that the other one missed.

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                    RocKKer
                    last edited by Aug 15, 2012, 10:03 PM

                    I built a box similar to what your describing, here's my post of the completed box.

                    See if you can use anything in that build….I really like the mini case, although has no provision for PCI card but with dual onboard Intel NICs I have no need for one.

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                      jtvd78
                      last edited by Aug 16, 2012, 8:22 PM

                      @RocKKer:

                      I built a box similar to what your describing, here's my post of the completed box.

                      See if you can use anything in that build….I really like the mini case, although has no provision for PCI card but with dual onboard Intel NICs I have no need for one.

                      I like how your motherboard has dual nics, but I like how my current motherboard has a CPU that is higher clocked and is hyper-threaded. Though, I am leaning towards my motherboard, would it be a better idea to use the one you used?

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                        RocKKer
                        last edited by Aug 16, 2012, 10:20 PM

                        According to this -
                        "21-50 Mbps - No less than 500 MHz CPU"

                        so from a pure throughput standpoint either cpu gives you plenty headroom, but if you add some services (and is sounds like you may) it could eat up whatever excess cpu you have.

                        Either box should be able to handle those different distros, it's the added services that will bog them down.

                        Sorry I don't have much info on hyper-threading, gut feeling tells me you want it but I couldn't quantify more than that with anything reasonable.

                        For my setup (a home router) a small footprint was desirable and that setup fit the bill.

                        BTW - I strongly urge you to include fans and heatsinks (didn't see those in your build list). Passive cooling these boxes is just not enough.

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                          jtvd78
                          last edited by Aug 16, 2012, 10:31 PM

                          I've been looking around, and I've found an alternative to my current board: The Intel DN2800MT Link. It supports mSata over its miniPcie, as well as having regular PCI Express x1. I'm also getting the M350 case, as you recommended. It seems very popular in the MiniITX market. I'm also getting a Riser kit for the case, so I can use full size cards. Link.

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                            RocKKer
                            last edited by Aug 16, 2012, 11:45 PM

                            Supports hyper-threading, cool.

                            I like the ability to add a full size PCIe. If Intel would add an additional onboard NIC, that would the perfect firewall/router mboard!

                            I think that will be a sweet build!

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                              jtvd78
                              last edited by Aug 16, 2012, 11:47 PM

                              @RocKKer:

                              Supports hyper-threading, cool.

                              I like the ability to add a full size PCIe. If Intel would add an additional onboard NIC, that would the perfect firewall/router mboard!

                              I think that will be a sweet build!

                              I'm debating on getting a HP NC360T, and modding it to fit into an x1 slot. They are really cheap on ebay.
                              http://forums.servethehome.com/showthread.php?471-Dual-NICs-on-PCIE-x1-slot-recommendation

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                                RocKKer
                                last edited by Aug 17, 2012, 4:16 AM

                                If that HP dual uses the Intel 82571 (like the forum link says) it should work good as a server NIC.

                                Looks like a good cheap dual NIC and mod, have to keep that in mind if I ever need a dual NIC solution!

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