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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by

      Mine only came with 1x250GB drive though ;)

      Now in the UK I think they are getting these things for like 100 quid after rebate.  I got mine on sale for under $300, then even counting up the extra ram and 2TB drive I added to it plus a couple of old ones I re-purposed.  So a bit over $400 total.  Which for a ESXi box it was cheap, I would never in a million years spend that amount of money on a box for pfsense only.  It can be done way cheaper!

      But maybe he is in the UK and getting it for 100 quid??  Has to add a second low profile nic, maybe he has one.  Then I guess its a really cheap option for a router box.  But not really optimal design for it.

      What are you spending?  And we can see if we can suggest better suited hardware for that price range.

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      • lalex86L
        lalex86
        last edited by

        Ok i know it is not a optimal configuration for pfSense but:

        • it is for a small company where an internet stop for two days isn't a problem
        • it can get it with 1x250HDD, 2TB RAM, 2 NIC (1 integrated+1one added) for 225 € (euro) that is the price of the smallest appliance i can get from applianceshop.eu
        • maybe now or in the future i'll virtualize the installation and have extra value.

        Every case i'd like to know:

        • if there are hardware incompatibility installing pfSense without virtualization
        • if you have different suggestions for cheaper solution with same espansion possibilities.

        Thanks
        Alessandro

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          @lalex86:

          2TB RAM

          I think I can conclusively say that no matter what situation you have your pfSense box in you don't need that much ram!  :D

          But seriously, which specific expansion possibilities are you referring to?

          Steve

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          • lalex86L
            lalex86
            last edited by

            Sorry i mean 2GB  ;D.
            In essence how can i get this CPU, RAM and HD for 225 €?
            With this configuration i can add Squid Proxing, VPN for clients or site2site, antivirus or other without problems.

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            • M
              matguy
              last edited by

              I think what we're getting at is:

              There are reported issues with getting this hardware to run pfSense, ones that may have been resolved, but no certain reports.

              This hardware isn't exactly suited for pfSense, mostly from a cost standpoint, which, while you can get a good deal on it, it doesn't change that the hardware is more suited to other uses.

              This hardware, from a performance and reliability standpoint with pfSense, isn't much better than a desktop, which you can get them for similar or less cost; ones that are confirmed to work well and don't have some of the limitations that this hardware does have (low profile PCI-Express, mainly.)

              It doesn't seem that you're worried about power usage, so just about any desktop would work for you.

              Certainly, you can do what you want, but not much of any of us are saying it's a preferred solution.  If it works out well for you, though, I'm sure we'd like to hear about it, we kind of like to be proven wrong in situations like this (I think most of us here are more in it for the knowledge sharing than ego.)

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Something that nobody seems to be mentioning here is that the CPU in these is nothing special. It's not very fast. Fine for a file server but it's not going to push much vpn traffic for example.
                Even the cheapest current desktop machine will be far more powerful.

                Steve

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                  matguy
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10:

                  Something that nobody seems to be mentioning here is that the CPU in these is nothing special. It's not very fast. Fine for a file server but it's not going to push much vpn traffic for example.
                  Even the cheapest current desktop machine will be far more powerful.

                  Steve

                  Even the cheapest desktop machine from the last 5 years should be far more powerful.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    "but it's not going to push much vpn traffic for example."

                    Agreed I wouldn't use it as for lots of concurrent vpn users - but for me that is no more than 1 ;)  And it handles that just fine.  It sure has more umph then the old P3 800mhz I use to run it on.. hehehe

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                    • lalex86L
                      lalex86
                      last edited by

                      Ok i agree with you about some limitations. Can you suggest, for a similiar cost, a different (more pfsense suitable) solution? A small form factor desktop  for esample or other. From the point of view of power usage  the microserver seems to have lower demand to a desktop. I considered different solution like various recommended appliance ATOM-based with HDD but they cost 400-500+ euro…they don't have a good price-performance ratio compared to microserver?

                      I'd appreciate models or links to different solutions.

                      Thanks again Alessandro

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        There doesn't appear to be much by way of of the shelf systems in this power/price range. Are you willing to build it yourself?
                        If so consider using a low end Sandybridge such as in this build: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,44269.0.html

                        If you don't mind having a less well known brand you can get such a system complete for very little. You would have to add a NIC to this for example: http://www.ebuyer.com/395304-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1070

                        Steve

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                        • lalex86L
                          lalex86
                          last edited by

                          FYI

                          Bought and configured:

                          • MICROSERVER G7 AMD N40L 2GB 1X250GB LFF SATA NODVD
                          • HP NC112T PCI EXPRESS GIGABIT SERVER ADAPTER
                          • pfSENSE 2.0.1

                          all hardware components are recognized without problems and it runs smoothly.

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