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      thermo
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      I was looking at these today and thought that they arent that cheap for what you get - add ram and pricey msata ssd, and only one nic would mean an additional smart switch. Size is good though, and I'm thinking of getting a few for our space constrained ships.

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        NOYB
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        Hoping to have one of these by end of week.  Intel Next Unit of Computing Kit DC3217IYE

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebr0AT2e_SU
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBFLCqeAQo4

        http://www.intel.com/
        Next Unit of Computing Kit
        http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/search.html?keyword=Next+Unit+of+Computing+Kit

        Some direct links from the above search results page:

        Introducing Intel's Next Unit of Computing Kit DC3217IYE 
        http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/desktops/dc3217iye-product-brief.html?wapkw=next+unit+of+computing+kit

        Next Unit of Computing Kit DC3217IYE — What's in the box  [10 K]
        http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dc3217iye/sb/CS-033807.htm?wapkw=next+unit+of+computing+kit

        Support for the Next Unit of Computing Kit DC3217IYE  [35 K]
        http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/dsktpboards/dk-dc3217iye?wapkw=next+unit+of+computing+kit

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          NOYB
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          It's up and running on USB Flash drive.

          LAN: em0
          WAN: em0_vlan98

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            miker1000000
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            Has anyone added a USB Gb NIC? Would love to use this as a solution instead of the system I just got:
            SUPERMICRO SYS-5017C-LF 1U w/ i3 2100 and 4Gb ram

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              NOYB
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              @miker1000000:

              Has anyone added a USB Gb NIC? Would love to use this as a solution instead of the system I just got:
              SUPERMICRO SYS-5017C-LF 1U w/ i3 2100 and 4Gb ram

              I have not.  Only installed pfSense on it to verify that it would work, then installed Windows 8 and went back to the old notebook pfSense router.  Would you really need a second NIC?  I prefer putting the WAN on a VLAN.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                I have searched for this a few times but come up blank on each occasion. The HDMI 1.4 spec includes HEC (HDMI Ethernet Channel) which is intended to connect internet enabled TVs and BD players etc. There seems to be no reason why it couldn't be used as an ethernet adapter if it is included. I have just searched again specifically for the NUC and found nothing. Thoughts?

                Steve

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                  Magsy
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                  Almost certain these devices don't have the ethernet channel present in the HDMI.

                  I got one and it is awesome, 256gb M4 and 16gb DDR 1600. I have a genuine 9w idle and under severe load no more than 18-20w. 30w max load under a GPU+CPU stress test. Turn off all the speedstep and power saving and still have a 13w idle. The most impressive thing is that it is low power almost always, unlike full size boards that idle pretty well but ramp up quickly this thing is barely ever above 15w, regardless of the OS support for power saving, idling VM's etc.

                  Onboard nic is good but patchy driver support, I've tried ESXi5.1 (custom e1000e driver), Server 2012/Hyper-V (hacked Win8 driver) but pfsense out of box.

                  There is room for a PCIE nic, either http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/1500/?utm_source=Pangora&utm_medium=CPC  or http://www.mini-tft.de/xtc-neu/product_info.php/info/p145114_Speed-Dragon-MNW02A–-Half-Size-Mini-PCI-Express-G.html

                  Of course, if you require the SSD in there then fitting the Intel NIC is going to be hard because you are only left with a half size slot. I may put a PCIE extender in there on a ribbon to break out onto the Intel (there is internal room). The half size could should fit with just a little modding. Just need to fashion some kind of breakout cable which is no big deal!

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                    matguy
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                    @Magsy:

                    Almost certain these devices don't have the ethernet channel present in the HDMI.

                    I got one and it is awesome, 256gb M4 and 16gb DDR 1600. I have a genuine 9w idle and under severe load no more than 18-20w. 30w max load under a GPU+CPU stress test. Turn off all the speedstep and power saving and still have a 13w idle. The most impressive thing is that it is low power almost always, unlike full size boards that idle pretty well but ramp up quickly this thing is barely ever above 15w, regardless of the OS support for power saving, idling VM's etc.

                    Onboard nic is good but patchy driver support, I've tried ESXi5.1 (custom e1000e driver), Server 2012/Hyper-V (hacked Win8 driver) but pfsense out of box.

                    There is room for a PCIE nic, either http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/1500/?utm_source=Pangora&utm_medium=CPC  or http://www.mini-tft.de/xtc-neu/product_info.php/info/p145114_Speed-Dragon-MNW02A–-Half-Size-Mini-PCI-Express-G.html

                    Of course, if you require the SSD in there then fitting the Intel NIC is going to be hard because you are only left with a half size slot. I may put a PCIE extender in there on a ribbon to break out onto the Intel (there is internal room). The half size could should fit with just a little modding. Just need to fashion some kind of breakout cable which is no big deal!

                    These guys may have some breakout cables that may help your goal.  http://www.hwtools.net/

                    They have crazy stuff.  While looking through their products I often stop and think: "Wait, what?  You can do that?  and why would you want to?"  Their prices look decent, but they ship from Taiwan, so shipping can often raise the price significantly (sometimes double.)

                    When I say crazy, I mean they have 2 different adapters to take mini Pci-Express out to an external board with a PCI-Express slot; one of which they make a nice plexiglass case for a video card and power supply; oh, and a nice power board so you can use a standard ATX power supply with it.  Or Express Card to external PCI-Express; they have 2 versions of that, one with the big plex case or one with a smaller aluminum case, but the aluminum case won't fit super large video cards.

                    Respectively:
                    http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/DB5L.html
                    http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4H.html
                    http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4H%20V3.2.html

                    It gets better from there, like SD card to micro SD card adapters… but in the opposite direction, to get a full size SD card to work in a Micro slot.

                    Enjoy!

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                      miker1000000
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                      @stephenw10:

                      I have searched for this a few times but come up blank on each occasion. The HDMI 1.4 spec includes HEC (HDMI Ethernet Channel) which is intended to connect internet enabled TVs and BD players etc. There seems to be no reason why it couldn't be used as an ethernet adapter if it is included. I have just searched again specifically for the NUC and found nothing. Thoughts?

                      Steve

                      This looks cool, Ethernet over hdmi is only 100/Mbps though. I will need to brush up on my VLAN to get it to work I think, or maybe a usb adapter that is compatible with PFsense. My 1U device hasnt shipped so I canceled the order.. more testing to come!

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                        enhearten
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                        there is dual intel nic avaliable in a full size mini pcie card here
                        http://www.globalamericaninc.com/commell-mpx-574d2.html
                        would give thiss unit a lot more expandability

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          That's an interesting product, it appears to be Intel 82574L based as well which is a bonus.

                          However if you check the manufacturers (Commell) page, here they say:

                          Note : MPX-574D2 is compatible with COMMELL boards ONLY and only compatible with boards shown below!

                          So possibly some compatibility issues, non standard use of the socket?

                          Steve

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                            tim.mcmanus
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                            What's nice about the Intel DC3217IYE is that it uses the QS77 chipset.  There is more than enough bandwidth on this chipset to run multiple devices without bogging it down.  It would make an awesome pfSense SOHO pfSense devices if they removed one of the HDMI ports and added another NIC.

                            It's low-power and high on features.  NewEgg has them listed for $299 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102002&Tpk=DC3217IYE), and if it had a second NIC, I'd be buying one right now (not that I need one, but I could easily "find" someone who needs one).

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                              NOYB
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                              @tim.mcmanus:

                              NewEgg has them listed for $299 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102002&Tpk=DC3217IYE)

                              • $10 off w/ promo code 72SALE1, ends 1/31 (today)
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                                stan-qaz
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                                What about adding an Ethernet port or two on the mini PCIe, there are two of them on the NUC.

                                http://www.bvm-store.com/ProductDetail.asp?fdProductId=547

                                http://www.bvm-store.com/ProductDetail.asp?fdProductId=548%29

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Like it says on that page, and the page I linked to three posts up, these cards are not compatible with all boards that have a minipci-e slot. It makes me wonder why not. There are some posts about using this card in a macmini where it works OK once you have the drivers in place, so it's not an exclusive to Commell pin-use for example.
                                  I think I'm saying that there are no guarantees this will work.  ;)

                                  Steve

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                                    thermo
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                                    There are other mini pcie ethernet options. Last time i looked jetway had a couple of intel models and there was one on ebay. Chipset cant remember.

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                                      Tsunami
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                                      Has anyone considered using one of these in conjunction with a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter like the one Apple sells:

                                      http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD463ZM/A/thunderbolt-to-gigabit-ethernet-adapter

                                      I understand that these adapters use a Broadcom BCM5701 which is supported via the bge driver in FreeBSD.

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                                        shox
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                                        Problem is that the nuc with thunderbolt dosn't has a seperate rj45 interface. I would also like to use a nuc as fw (vlan workaround is not an option for me)

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                                          n2qcn
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                                          15W Haswell-based NUC
                                          dual mPCIe/SATA slots
                                          HD 5000 graphics


                                          Source: vr-zone

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                                            Fevan
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                                            Hi major thread bump

                                            But did anyone in the end ever manage to build a successful Intel Nuc with pfsense ?

                                            I see lots of links and interest on this thread and was considering doing the same thing myself,  I like the idea of the dual nic cards which I had no idea existed even…

                                            It is such a shame the usb to ethernet dongles are said to be unstable and require high cpu usage....

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