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    I3 system with at least 4-5 gigabit ports. 1U preferred

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      asterix
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      Leaning more towards this.. has quad gigabit lan ports. A bit on the expensive side for a barebones

      http://www.asus.com/Commericial_Servers_Workstations/RS300E7PS4/

      Wonder why it can house a Xeon and i3 but no i5 or i7. I could add my spare dual port Intel gigabit PCIe and use vmWare on this with dedicated ports for all 6 segments. I have an i3 and i5 as well plus extra set of RAM and hard drive. Not sure if its the mobo architecture that's preventing it from using an i5.

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        asterix
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        This would be just perfect… only if I knew from where to buy it.

        http://de.norco-group.com/product/1U-Network-Security-Barebone-With-2nd---3rd-Gen-Intel-Core-Processor-Family-FW-1109.html

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          shockwavecs
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          @tirsojrp:

          @shockwavecs:

          • This pfsense box with 2.0.2 has the realtek NICs working that are onboard http://www.amazon.com/pfSense-Firewall-Version-D2500CC-PicoPSU/dp/B00A09SK6W

          That box uses Intel NIC's

          Whoops, you are right. The intel NICs are the same on the motherboard that I recommended and on the Pico pfsense box on amazon. Either way they are compatible with pfSense 2.0.X

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            asterix
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            So this is the price quote I got for it the FW-1109. I think its way overpriced.

            FW-1109
            I5-2310 CPU
            4GB DDR3 Memory
            1TB 3.5” Hard Drive
            Cost: $879.00 + shipping.

            for barebone system without CPU/CPU cooler, RAM and HDD it's $555 + shipping.

            Thoughts?

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              tirsojrp
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              That's a normal price for such hardware.

              I am aware that the features like IPMI, Bypass and form factor justify the price, but still prefer to build my own stuff to keep prices down and be able to choose from hundred of parts in case of failure.

              Checking ebay could help you A LOT to build a similar system for ~600 or even less if you spend some time searching and bidding.

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                asterix
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                Can't find an LGA 1155 system with 6 ports anywhere online. This is just released config which is still not 100% in production. The agent is trying to sell me a sample for now as the production for it has not started. Things like front bezel, LCD.. rear expansion slot has not been totally finalized.

                I like to build my own system rather than paying a premium for pre-built ones. But getting a rack mountable front end 6 Intel gigabit cards with a LGA 1155 motherboard is not possible. There are Atom motherboards now available with front gigabit ports.. but that's not meeting my current needs.

                If I could find a similar 1U enclosure with front (back is fine as well) ports and a LGA 1155 motherboard that can house 5 Intel Gigabit ports and has options for future expansion.. I would build it myself.

                My current 2U system has a dual Intel gigabit PCIe card. Buying an Intel Quad gigabit card will run me down to $250 for a decent used one or about $485 for a new one. I can build a whole new system with that kind of money.

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                  tim.mcmanus
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                  You're having a tough time balancing form and price.  I bit the bullet and dealt with a less than ideal form factor to get the power and price I was looking for.

                  Motherboard
                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121623

                  CPU
                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

                  2 x PCIe NICs
                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106033

                  I could have gone with dual-Gbit PICe NICs but didn't need them.  You could put a 4 x Gbit PCIe NIC on that motherboard and never saturate the subsystem.

                  I threw 4GB of RAM into the box and a 7200RPM HD.  All said and done with the case and it came in around $400.  You could probably find a 2U enclosure for the board, but I went cheap on the enclosure and threw it on a shelf.

                  I wasn't constrained by space and focused more on price and performance.  If space and performance are your main goals, you're going to get hit on price.

                  I have two 60/8 WAN connections, five servers, and IPSec tunnel, and occasionally OpenVPN coming in.  The box barely gets warm.

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                    tirsojrp
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                    @asterix:

                    My current 2U system has a dual Intel gigabit PCIe card. Buying an Intel Quad gigabit card will run me down to $250 for a decent used one or about $485 for a new one. I can build a whole new system with that kind of money.

                    I see them all the time on ebay for ~130.

                    tim.mcmanus recommendation is valid, but that nic price is higher than the last dual one I got from ebay.

                    If you insist on going with a 1u case be aware that the case will need a riser, low profile cooler, i/o shield, etc; you will also be limited to a single expansion card forcing the use of a quad nic. Be ready to spend at least $200 more for a system with similar specs.

                    BTW. This case can be mounted reversed,link, picture

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                      shockwavecs
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                      ok then I suppose get the Asus RS300 with Quad NIC onboard and two expansion slots for a theoretical max of 12 gigabit NICs. You also get remote management from this server opposed to the RS100. I just built two of the 1U boxes mentioned above with Corei3/4GBECC/6xIntel Gbit for just under $550. It's not reverse mountable, though. the RS300 is definitely a better buy if you would not be comfortable with ebay quad NIC like I purchased at 100/each.

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                        asterix
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                        So which motherboard and 1U enclosure did you go for?

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                          shockwavecs
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                          @asterix:

                          So which motherboard and 1U enclosure did you go for?

                          If you mean me;

                          RS100 Barebones ~275
                          Corei3 2100 65watt ~120
                          Kingston 2x2GB  KVR13E9/2I ~50
                          eBay Quad 1000 ~100

                          Just built two of them for our new datacenter. No hot swap bays but they are in AHCI mode so you can actually swap a dead disk if you can inch out the server, remove the cover, and do your work. Just setup the proper amount of slack on your network cables and all is good.


                          Nice to see Intel PRO 1000 for all 6 NICs in Assign interfaces. Different MAC ranges so easy to identify, though.

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                            shockwavecs
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                            oh and 3 year warranty on everything is included…except the NIC ha. But I built two of them so it'll be fine. Maybbbbe an extra Quad from ebay wouldn't hurt. They look new anyways.

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                              asterix
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                              That's PCIe or PCIX NIC ? Also do you have a pic of the CPU mounted? Will the factory CPU fan fit in that 1U enclosure?

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                                shockwavecs
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                                it's PCI-e. The riser is certainly a weird color.

                                The ASUS RS100 barebones comes with a 1U CPU cooler.

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                                  asterix
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                                  You know of any reason why the motherboard will take only i3 and xeon processors and no i5 or i7 ?  Techincally they should be compatible.

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                                    jasonlitka
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                                    @asterix:

                                    You know of any reason why the motherboard will take only i3 and xeon processors and no i5 or i7 ?  Techincally they should be compatible.

                                    It's because the i3 CPUs support ECC RAM and the i5/i7 CPUs don't.

                                    I can break anything.

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                                      asterix
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                                      So what if I install non-ECC RAM on this specific system? Will it still work or even boot?

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                                        jasonlitka
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                                        @asterix:

                                        So what if I install non-ECC RAM on this specific system? Will it still work or even boot?

                                        No idea, I don't own one.

                                        I can break anything.

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                                          tirsojrp
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                                          Check page 5 of this doc: http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/46/78/467819_467819.pdf

                                          Even Intel don't have an straight answer about non-ecc or i5/i7 CPU.

                                          edit:
                                          Asus CPU support list

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                                            jasonlitka
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                                            @tirsojrp:

                                            Check page 5 of this doc: http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/46/78/467819_467819.pdf

                                            Even Intel don't have an straight answer about non-ecc or i5/i7 CPU.

                                            edit:
                                            Asus CPU support list

                                            Looks pretty clear to me. They say that the i5/i7 doesn't support ECC.

                                            I can break anything.

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