Mini-ITX fanless recommendations?
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Yup.. just wanted to see if Atoms were getting powerful enough. I guess my impressions were right.. they are just not up to par in performance to have multiple packages running all at once.
I stand corrected.. i3 is the most suited CPU for heavy packages. -
Ok, I think I have decided on the components for building out my pfSense system. The one item I am kinda indecisive on is the CPU's listed below.
Can anyone argue for one of these particular CPU's over the others?
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-H77N-WIFI LGA 1155 Intel - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128567
CPU: i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077
i3-2130 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115092
i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775
(comparison http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006676&IsNodeId=1&Description=i3%20cpu%20ivy
%20bridge&bop=And&CompareItemList=-1|19-115-078^19-115-078-04%23%2C19-115-092^19-115-092-TS%2C19-115-077^19-115-077-03%23%2C19-116-775^19-116-775-TS&percm=19-116-775%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24)Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345
(I'm hoping the heat sink on these sticks will fit in the case ok)
Case: M350 Universal Mini-ITX enclosure - http://www.mini-box.com/M350-universal-mini-itx-enclosure
SSD: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" Asynchronous MLC SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226247
Power Supply: picoPSU-160-XT + 192W Adapter Power Kit - http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-160-XT-192W-Adapter-Power-KitA concern I had with the power supply is that the motherboard mentions the following in it's manual:
"To meet expansion requirements, it is recommended that a power supply that can withstand high
power consumption be used (300W or greater)."However, the largest picoPSU I see available is 160W (w/ 200W peak).
Thanks.
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Yup.. just wanted to see if Atoms were getting powerful enough. I guess my impressions were right.. they are just not up to par in performance to have multiple packages running all at once.
I stand corrected.. i3 is the most suited CPU for heavy packages.They are fine as long as you don't try to use a ton of packages AND have a ton of bandwidth. If you're looking for fanless it's about as good as you can get unless you find some appliance where the CPU heatsink is attached to the case.
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You do not need an i3 for 20/3Mbps WAN connection. Consider saving some money and using a lower end Sandy/Ivy bridge CPU instead. Perhaps this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116889
Or, to reduce heat and noise, this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116407The on board wifi on that motherboard will not work with pfSense. There is actually a review on the site of using that board with pfSense that states that.
Steve
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I had 2 bad experiences with Gigabyte motherboards. I recommend you look into Asus.
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Thanks so much for the suggestions stephenw10. I'll take a look at those CPU's.
asterix, I too was slightly skeptical of the Gigabyte board and have to admit have had nothing but success with the ASUS boards. I just couldn't find an ASUS board with two onboard NIC's. Looks like I'd have to install a NIC into any of the ITX ASUS boards.
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Yup.. just wanted to see if Atoms were getting powerful enough. I guess my impressions were right.. they are just not up to par in performance to have multiple packages running all at once.
I stand corrected.. i3 is the most suited CPU for heavy packages.They are fine as long as you don't try to use a ton of packages AND have a ton of bandwidth. If you're looking for fanless it's about as good as you can get unless you find some appliance where the CPU heatsink is attached to the case.
FYI, I just fired up Snort on my box at home with VRT Balanced and all ET rules and there was negligible change to throughput, latency, and CPU usage while maxing out my FiOS (42/35).
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I tested my i5 (pfsense on a ESXi 5.1 but no other VMs turned on) with full 50/6 bandwidth taken by P2P file downloads for over 4 hours. I had all packages running… like Snort fully loaded with all rules, Dans with clamd virus scanning, Squid, pfBlocker.. etc and saw constant 20% usage throughout the 4 hours. Also to keep in mind is the number of connections... mine were way up than normal so my box had to keep up with each connection.
I highly doubt an Atom would be able to sustain that.
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The Pentium G630T (Sandy Bridge), nearly caps out at 100 Mbps DL with Snort loaded up. Almost all processes on pfSense (pf, Snort, etc.) are single thread only, so you can very easily cap it out with heavy packages. When I run my box to the max on my 100/10 Mbps fiber, Snort runs at close to 100% on one core.
If the i5 was a quad core and 20% total load, then that's nearly capping out one core.
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Yup.. its a quad core.
