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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Yeah that looks good. 3.13 is the version I have.
      Perhaps not a great plan to link there from the forum. Don't want to bring down any heat on the dev team.  :)

      Steve

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        I checked the XTM5 bios and it reports:

        AMIBIOS 080015  02/03/10(C)2006 
        

        So that looks like it's bios core version 8.00.15 which is the same as yours (see your first screenshot). The only difference is that yours is twice the size.
        I found a copy of amibcp 3.51, which is the most recent I could find, and it still couldn't open your rom file. All those amibcp programs are dated 2008 though so none are terribly new. There are v4 available but I'm lead to believe they are for much newer efi bioses.
        Edit: Yep V4.53 can't open any files I have here.

        Steve

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          Eams
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          I'm thinking the bios dump is somehow wrong.

          Had a bit of a dig around the Watchguard support site and I found this on the XTM 8

          Hardware Specifications
                                          XTM 8 Series
          Processor                  2 .66 GHz Quad Core
          Memory: Flash            1 GB
          Memory: RAM            2 GB

          Now that's either the BIOS flash memory or the compact flash card.

          Eamon

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            It's the CF that's 1GB. A 1GB BIOS would be huge!  ;)

            I agree the most likely thing seems to be that the image is corrupt. That could have happened during extraction, a flashrom problem, or during transfer or something else.

            Steve

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              Eams
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              Haha!! that's what I get for looking at the specs when I'm half awake!!

              Ok so how do I get the BIOS saved properly? I did flashrom -r file.bin then I downloaded it via the pfSense webgui.

              Is there a better way?

              Eamon

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Hmm. Ok. Sometimes your web browser can try to interpret files.
                When extracting the bios from the XTM5 I used a filename that was filename.rom and I transfered it via SCP using WinSCP.

                To check the file integrity you can generate an MD5 sum for it on the box and then on your windows machine or where ever you put it.

                [2.1-BETA1][root@pfsense.localdomain]/tmp(3): flashrom -r backup.rom
                flashrom v0.9.5.2-r1515 on FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p8 (i386), built with libpci 3.1.9, GCC 4.2.1 20070719  [FreeBSD], little endian
                flashrom is free software, get the source code at http://www.flashrom.org
                
                Calibrating delay loop... OK.
                Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R". Enabling flash write... OK.
                Found ST flash chip "M25P80" (1024 kB, SPI) at physical address 0xfff00000.
                Reading flash... done.
                [2.1-BETA1][root@pfsense.localdomain]/tmp(4): md5 backup.rom
                MD5 (backup.rom) = fcefa2906d7c3179264a8528ba0a7cea
                
                

                I use WinMD5 to check it after transfer.

                Steve

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                  Eams
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                  Ok so as it stands my XTM 8 is locked in a never ending bios reboot due to a "CMOS Checksum Bad" error :(

                  How this happened is as follows:

                  I had flashed the Lanner FW-8750 firmware to the board - flashrom0.9.2 gave an error and to get on irc.

                  I spoke with idwer/stefan and a couple of other flashrom devs who were kind enough to compile the lastest flashrom (0.9.6.2 - I think) for pfsense 2.0.3 (many thanks guys).

                  However before that had come through, I flashed back the back up Bios - got the same error - rebooted and the XTM 8 was back to how it was from the factory ie bios locked but working.

                  I then followed the Lanner reps advice and used AFUDOS to flash the Lanner bios, which reported it had flashed successfully! and thats how I got to the never ending bios reboot :(

                  So at the moment I'm waiting on a SPI programming board to arrive from the US so I can flash the bios via the SPI header.

                  Eamon

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                  AMIBIOS-flashed.jpg
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                  AMIBIOS-Error.jpg
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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Yikes, that's a message you never want to see.  :o

                    Although the xtm8 is based on the 8750 is not an 8750, there are hardware differences that may mean the standard BIOS cannot work. Though I can't think what they might be.

                    Failed CMOS checksum is a fairly standard error after updating the BIOS. I take it you've tried clearing the cmos or trying to load the default values. I'm sure the flashrom guys will have discussed that.

                    You can always try the 4 resistors like I did.  ;)

                    Steve

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                      Eams
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                      No it's not the message I wanted to see either!

                      The bios they sent was after I had supplied the serial number and board model/version so one would assume it would match!

                      Yeah I've cleared the cmos, it won't allow me to get into the bios which is the worst part :(

                      I'm avoiding the 4 resistors and going for a proper SPI programmer ;)

                      Eamon

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        More patient than me.  :)

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                          Eams
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                          Not really, I just hate soldering ;)

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                            Eams
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                            Looks like I'll have to go the soldering route :(

                            I've tried the BlackCat SPI programmer but it just won't recognise the rom even though it supports it :(

                            Eamon

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Is the ROM chip powered? How does it connect?

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                                Eams
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                                The rom chip is powered when the unit is in standby.

                                The SPI programmer connects directly to the SPI-ROM header on the motherboard. I've tried it every which way but no joy :(

                                Eamon

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Well that's quite disappointing. A long wait for no result.  :(
                                  Good luck with the soldering. :)

                                  Steve

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                                    angelkiller
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                                    My XTM 510 is flashed with unlocked BIOS, thanks @ stephenw10. It works like a charm with pfsense.
                                    Now i have two XTM 810 and will try to run pfsense on them. I want to get into the BIOS without luck.
                                    Can someone tell me the correct serial settings for that and has someone a unlocked BIOS running?

                                    greetz from Germany

                                    edit:
                                    Get into Bios with keyboard connected to the XTM 810 and del key ok.
                                    Now i try to make a cf with pfsense and run it and make a Bios backup file.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Excellent. If you could post your success flashing the bios in the xtm5 thread that would be great.

                                      I hope you have read through this whole thread. Eams discovered to his misfortune that the flashrom program is not compatible with the eprom in the xtm8. I think he also struggled using a dos flasher. I suggest you make sure you can read/write the chip via the SPI header before experimenting. ;)

                                      No one has manger to get pfSense running on an xtm8 yet. One of the problems is that the console port is com2 and the Nano pfSense images are hardcoded to use com1.

                                      Steve

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                                        angelkiller
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                                        Yes, nano bsd image do not boot.
                                        I do not have spi, but two XTM 8. If something goes wrong i have a second chance :-)

                                        I think to install pfsense to the cf with a vm on a esxi server.
                                        I report my experiences.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Please keep us updated with anything you find.  :)

                                          Steve

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                                            angelkiller
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                                            Update
                                            I was able to boot freedos and make a backup of my XTM810 bios.
                                            Test to flashback the bios was ok. But i can not load the bios in any editor i found. :-(
                                            Here is a link if someone need it.

                                            http://uploaded.net/file/kzeu66vy

                                            Can someone tell me a tool to look into the bios?

                                            Now i made the original XTM OS image on the cf and boot the box with logging in putty. Here is the output file.

                                            http://ul.to/jxmxmvul

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