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      Clear-Pixel
      last edited by

      That is correct …. laptop powered off ..... but one thing I did not think of at the time is unplugging the laptop from power brick ..... so the 1.40 watts or part of it is WOL.

      Power brick for switch nor did the cable modem power transformer display a power draw when unplugged from device.... so 1.40 watts from the laptop power brick could very well be the WOL.

      One thing for certain it displayed total network power usage consistently in the 28.2 to 29.4 Watt range. The Kill A Watt PP4400 claims 0.2% Accuracy.

      HP EliteBook 2530p Laptop - Core2 Duo SL9600 @ 2.13Ghz - 4 GB Ram -128GB SSD
      Atheros Mini PCI-E as Access Point (AR5BXB63H/AR5007EG/AR2425)
      Single Ethernet Port - VLAN
      Cisco SG300 10-port Gigabit Managed Switch
      Cisco DPC3008 Cable Modem  30/4 Mbps
      Pfsense 2.1-RELEASE (amd64)
      –------------------------------------------------------------
      Total Network Power Consumption - 29 Watts

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Does the laptop have a battery in it? The few laptops I have looked at in  any detail have charged in a periodic fashion, charging for 30secs - off for 2 mins.

        Anyway, less than 30W total is pretty good going, you have me beat!

        In a previous job I had a number of power meters that I used for various tests. All of them cost a lot. The Kill-a-watt just seems too cheap!  :)

        Steve

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          KrPacMan
          last edited by

          You can save alot of electricity by using power measuring tools, i have a "Smart Plug" with Wifi that shows the current power draw in my iPhone, with price per day and month. Very handy for measuring optimizing the computers running at home. Only my UPS uses around 70W when in "idle" for example. In total the server room uses 490W at the moment.

          Panda GateDefender Performa 8100 (Portwell NR-5500) with Pfsense 2.1 :: blog

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            Clear-Pixel
            last edited by

            Yes, battery acting as UPS…

            HP EliteBook 2530p Laptop - Core2 Duo SL9600 @ 2.13Ghz - 4 GB Ram -128GB SSD
            Atheros Mini PCI-E as Access Point (AR5BXB63H/AR5007EG/AR2425)
            Single Ethernet Port - VLAN
            Cisco SG300 10-port Gigabit Managed Switch
            Cisco DPC3008 Cable Modem  30/4 Mbps
            Pfsense 2.1-RELEASE (amd64)
            –------------------------------------------------------------
            Total Network Power Consumption - 29 Watts

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Ah well in that case an instantaneous reading may not be that accurate. It would be interesting to record the Wh over, say, 24hrs and average it.

              Steve

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                Clear-Pixel
                last edited by

                @stephenw10:

                Ah well in that case an instantaneous reading may not be that accurate. It would be interesting to record the Wh over, say, 24hrs and average it.

                Steve

                Monitoring for 15 minutes thats long enough… ;)

                HP EliteBook 2530p Laptop - Core2 Duo SL9600 @ 2.13Ghz - 4 GB Ram -128GB SSD
                Atheros Mini PCI-E as Access Point (AR5BXB63H/AR5007EG/AR2425)
                Single Ethernet Port - VLAN
                Cisco SG300 10-port Gigabit Managed Switch
                Cisco DPC3008 Cable Modem  30/4 Mbps
                Pfsense 2.1-RELEASE (amd64)
                –------------------------------------------------------------
                Total Network Power Consumption - 29 Watts

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                  Downloadski
                  last edited by

                  I measured 6 watts for a cisco SG200-08 switch

                  My first server with a pfsense is with a Asus Pundit-R (p4 2.4 GHz, 1 GB ram, 2 x intel PCI pro1000 network cards and 8 GB SSD) at around 60 watts

                  Seems a bit high, as i run a freebsd based nas with a Xeon 1265Lv2, 32 GB ram and 20 * a 7200 rpm hdds which uses 180 watts.

                  I have  spare mainbord with 8 GB memory and could try a xeon 1220Lv2 and a very efficient power supply. Perhaps that consumes less, but is a 400 euro investment.

                  This pundit has no issues doing line rate donwload at 120 mbps which is nice, and it does not need to be a much faster machine for me i guess.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    60W for a P4 seems about right unfortunately. The Netburst CPUs were notoriously power hungry and I expect your desktop model has no power saving features. My own P4 box with 2.8GHz desktop CPU idled at ~55W but it has no video hardware. I replaced it with a P4-M which idles at around 40W. Still not great.  :( I'd replace it but it has 9 on board Intel NICs and runs rock solid.  :)

                    Steve

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                      pvoigt
                      last edited by

                      Interesting thread, can contribute some more data:

                      Cisco SG300-10:  6 W
                      Cisco SG300-28:  10 W
                      pfSense machine: 33 W (Atom D-525, CF, 1xWLAN, 4 GiB DDR3, no keyboard, no monitor)
                      Desktop management machine: 160 W (Asus P5E3-Deluxe, 8 GiB DDR3, 4xHDD, 2xDVD, 1xWLAN, 2xEthernet, 19" TFT, USB keyboard, not yet measured under heavy game load :))
                      Backup pfSense machine: 6 W (Alix.2D13, 1xWLAN, CF)

                      Peter

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                        Gabri.91
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                        Xeon E3-1230v2, 16GB RAM, 1 SSD and 4 Hard Drive, 350W 80+ GOLD: around 50W IDLE (probably I can arrive to 40W if I disable Supermicro IPMI and I slow down/remove some fan)
                        Watchguard x750e with Pentium-M, PowerD and DC-DC brick: about 25W
                        HP 1800-24G: about 15W, depending on how many ports are connected

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                          Downloadski
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10:

                          60W for a P4 seems about right unfortunately. The Netburst CPUs were notoriously power hungry and I expect your desktop model has no power saving features.

                          With some traffic i saw 90 watts. So i ordered a new mainbord/psu (msi c847ms-e33)
                          According to tests (its brother, the p33 was tested) it uses around 20 watts idle

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                            daniev
                            last edited by

                            Total as shown by my UPS, I don’t have the breakdown per unit: 27 – 31 Watts

                            • PfSense Intel DN2800MT Atom, 4GB PC10600 200 Pin SODIMM , 64 GB mSata

                            • Linksys PAP2-T VOIP ATA

                            • Netgear GS116E 16 Port switch with 6 ports active

                            • Netgear GS108PEv2 8 Port POE switch with the following devices drawing power:
                                          Polycom 335 IP VOIP Phones x 2
                                          Axis M3007 Network Camera
                                          enGenius EAP350 WAP

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                              Downloadski
                              last edited by

                              @Downloadski:

                              @stephenw10:

                              60W for a P4 seems about right unfortunately. The Netburst CPUs were notoriously power hungry and I expect your desktop model has no power saving features.

                              With some traffic i saw 90 watts. So i ordered a new mainbord/psu (msi c847ms-e33)
                              According to tests (its brother, the p33 was tested) it uses around 20 watts idle

                              Got it running on pfsense 2.1, as 2.03 would not boot up on it.

                              Msi c847ms-e33 mainbord, 16 GB memory(2x8) seasonic x400 fanless platinum psu in a silverstone sugo09 case (180mm and 120 mm fan running) 64 gb ssd and a pci-e 2 port GE card (hp branded intel)

                              Running it consumes 27.8 watt

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                                Clear-Pixel
                                last edited by

                                Nice power usage numbers Downloadski  :) …. what device did you use to measure power usage?

                                HP EliteBook 2530p Laptop - Core2 Duo SL9600 @ 2.13Ghz - 4 GB Ram -128GB SSD
                                Atheros Mini PCI-E as Access Point (AR5BXB63H/AR5007EG/AR2425)
                                Single Ethernet Port - VLAN
                                Cisco SG300 10-port Gigabit Managed Switch
                                Cisco DPC3008 Cable Modem  30/4 Mbps
                                Pfsense 2.1-RELEASE (amd64)
                                –------------------------------------------------------------
                                Total Network Power Consumption - 29 Watts

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                                  Downloadski
                                  last edited by

                                  a plug in the wall outlet type of device (live in Netherlands Europe)
                                  I have it since years and not a  idea how precise it is. This PC uses half to a third from the test pc i used to check pfsense out.

                                  It might be a unit made by Cresta.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    To quote the Cresta RCE1106 manual:

                                    Accuracy:

                                    • Voltage: +/-3% of value measured
                                    • Current: +/-3% of the value measured +/-0.03A
                                    • Power: +/-5% of the valve measured +/-10VA
                                    • kWh: +/-5% of the value measured+/-0.1kWh

                                    That seems about what I'd expect from a plug top style meter costing <£50. I imagine my own meter is similar. I have a hard time believing the figure giving by Kill-a-Watt.  :-
                                    This seems to support that: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=137169

                                    I'm not going to stop using it though. Much better to have some reading for comparison that no data.  :)

                                    Steve

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