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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Ah yes, I did read JimP's post on that. I'd be surprised if they didn't make it in sooner or later though. The i210 is going to be very common (already is?) support for it is going to be required at some point.

      Steve

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        RAND0M1ZER
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        I wonder how much it will cost?

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          jasonlitka
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          @RAND0M1ZER:

          I wonder how much it will cost?

          If I had to guess, somewhere around $650, not including wireless, WWAN, the bypass option, RAM, or a boot disk.

          I can break anything.

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            Clear-Pixel
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            @Jason:

            @RAND0M1ZER:

            I wonder how much it will cost?

            If I had to guess, somewhere around $650, not including wireless, WWAN, the bypass option, RAM, or a boot disk.

            Guess there not planning on selling any …... LMAO

            HP EliteBook 2530p Laptop - Core2 Duo SL9600 @ 2.13Ghz - 4 GB Ram -128GB SSD
            Atheros Mini PCI-E as Access Point (AR5BXB63H/AR5007EG/AR2425)
            Single Ethernet Port - VLAN
            Cisco SG300 10-port Gigabit Managed Switch
            Cisco DPC3008 Cable Modem  30/4 Mbps
            Pfsense 2.1-RELEASE (amd64)
            –------------------------------------------------------------
            Total Network Power Consumption - 29 Watts

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              jasonlitka
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              @Clear-Pixel:

              @Jason:

              @RAND0M1ZER:

              I wonder how much it will cost?

              If I had to guess, somewhere around $650, not including wireless, WWAN, the bypass option, RAM, or a boot disk.

              Guess there not planning on selling any …... LMAO

              Soekris sells of ton of the net6501 systems.  The 1.6GHz single core + case is almost $500 and this is considerably more powerful.

              I can break anything.

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                ASGH
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                This board is cheaper than Soekris, it is around 270 USD.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Hmm, good price if it really sells for that.

                  Steve

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                    kejianshi
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                    How well with that thing perform with a full install and packages?  You know…  VPN, SNORT, bunch of rules.  GB network etc?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Same as any Atom powered board. Not good compared to a quad core i5 but much better than the current Alix. There are plenty of people who don't need loads of packages or 1Gbps throughput. Anyone with a 100-150Mbps WAN would do well with this I would think.

                      Steve

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                        kejianshi
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                        If it gets down to $150 I might call it a good deal.  Thats a pretty old CPU for me to be throwing big dollars at it.  Its basically the same thing thats in my acer aspire that I bought for $100 a year ago for my wife to travel with (vs an IPAD).  It was considered dated tech at that time.

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                        • valnarV
                          valnar
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                          @kejianshi:

                          If it gets down to $150 I might call it a good deal.  Thats a pretty old CPU for me to be throwing big dollars at it.  Its basically the same thing thats in my acer aspire that I bought for $100 a year ago for my wife to travel with (vs an IPAD).  It was considered dated tech at that time.

                          Actually, that Atom is pretty much perfect.  It's one of the best Atom chips Intel ever released.  Very good power-to-speed ratio since it's TDP is only 3.5W.  Look at all the other CPU's it beats.
                          http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+N2600+%40+1.60GHz

                          And this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_N2600#.22Cedarview.22_.2832_nm.29_2

                          I hope pfSense (FreeBSD) supports it.  Looks like a great choice for a firewall.

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                            kejianshi
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                            I've got a couple of Cedarview atom based boxes here and there that I like.  They make for solid boxes that you can abandon and ignore but those are not for personal use.  I'm here at home enough that having a fan in the box isn't the end of the world for me.  Those boxes also don't run any packages at all other than a base install and VPNs.  Not necessarily because they couldn't but because they have to work, so less is more.

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                              tirsojrp
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                              @valnar:

                              Actually, that Atom is pretty much perfect.  It's one of the best Atom chips Intel ever released.  Very good power-to-speed ratio since it's TDP is only 3.5W.  Look at all the other CPU's it beats.

                              Check this list
                              http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
                              Don't even use Search, just check the bottom of the list.

                              I like it, but if they want to sell it the price must be reasonable for such slow CPU.

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                                kejianshi
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                                I have weird opinions about what I use for myself.  Here at home I chose the AMD 4800+ box to be my router not because of specs necessarily, although it does run circles around the best/newest atom boards I've worked with.  I used my AMD because that board and PSU have been in use here for many many years and time has proven this particular box to be reliable.  I trust old hardware that I've been using for ages more than a new build that I've not tested with time and use, regardless of spec.  I do think this board would probably be good for people who needed reliability more than absolute throughput, but it is about $20 worth of silicon and plastic.  Hopefully they won't get pricey with it.

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                                  doktornotor Banned
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                                  @tirsojrp:

                                  such slow CPU.

                                  The CPU is more than sufficient for loads of people. Except those who just cannot resist to make their boxes crawl by implementing things such as snort.  :P

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                                    kejianshi
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                                    Agreed.

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                                      asterix
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                                      @doktornotor:

                                      @tirsojrp:

                                      such slow CPU.

                                      The CPU is more than sufficient for loads of people. Except those who just cannot resist to make their boxes crawl by implementing things such as snort.  :P

                                      Just some basics on IDS/IPS

                                      Firewalls aren't enough to keep some networks safe. Intrusion detection adds another layer of security.

                                      http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/security/security-features/32141-intrusion-detection-basics

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                                        tirsojrp
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                                        I have a Jetway JBC362 with the same CPU and I am aware that the CPU is enough for some tasks.

                                        In fact I might get 5 of them (NA341) if the reviews are positive and the price is right.

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                                          kejianshi
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                                          Yeah - Its a matter of more than spec.  One of my biggest gripes with all things Intel is they rape the public.  You could call it a function of capitalism but its still gouging.  They for sure make the best stuff, but its not sooooooooooo much better to justify their prices.  They are simply too proud of their stuff.  Price per performance definitely goes to AMD big time even with Intel's tech lead.  However, if you are made of money, Intel is the obvious choice.

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                                          • valnarV
                                            valnar
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                                            Even in single threaded mode, any Atom will perform an order of magnitude faster than a Geode LX800 processor.  While there is no Passmark score for the older Geode, reports of people on this forum and elsewhere show about 3x improvement in raw throughput..  For those of us where the ALIX board was just on the edge of being useless, that's a nice bump with some extra overhead.

                                            If they can get the (total) power consumption down to under 10 watts, that'll be worth it.  If it has the same 25-30 watt consumption of regular Atom boards, it'll be a non-starter as it might require active cooling.

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