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    How can I achieve this with my current setup?

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      orientalsniper
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      Model is TP-Link TD-8840T. ISP is somewhere at Central America, so i doubt that would help.

      Also, if I assign a VLAN to every public IP, do every sites see the public IP for each computer?

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        kejianshi
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        http://www.tp-link.com/Resources/document/TD-8840T_V4_User_Guide.pdf

        Section  4.4.1.6  Bridge

        I bet you have to bridge to your ISP's network, but first you would have to bridge the modem to your pfsense WAN.

        Then do something like this for each IP assigned.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrBr0N0WrTY

        I'd want pfsense doing all the heavy lifting, not that modem.  Just use the modem as modem only.

        Thats assuming your ISP isn't doing something goofy.

        When you get a /27 handed over, you really should make sure they tell you EXACTLY what method will be used to allocate that.
        You need to know at least your IP range, you gateway etc.  You will burn up a couple of IPs for the pfsense and the gateway and have 30 left to hand out.

        (P.S.  I see no reason why it can't be done, but how fast can each separate IP get if all 30 of them are being delivered over 1 DSL line?)

        rhetorical question…

        Downstream: Up to 24Mbps    total
        Upstream: Up to 3.5Mbps      total

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          orientalsniper
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          Sadly no, downstream: 8mbps and upstream: 1mbps. Which is why it's important to me the traffic shaping part.

          I only have about 20 clients requiring public ips so I can spare 5 ips max.

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            kejianshi
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            If you bridge it to pfsense WAN so that ONLY pfsense touches the Modem and no other computers then assign your IPs like the video shows and use VLANs and a Nice big VLAN switch, you can do it.  I had something very similar when I had to install one for a friend.  He had a /30 I think with Verizon FIOS.  He lived in an apartment so they wouldn't bring fiber to his door.  Instead they brought fiber to the building in a electrical room and then routed DSL from the fiber modem to each room.  It would actually have been ALOT better for you had they given you a modem only, and not the combo device.

            Then I had to do basically whats in that video.  Worked fine on FIOS wanna-be DSL.

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              orientalsniper
              last edited by

              Sorry, I'm out right now and can't watch the video clearly in mobile. I'll watch once I get back home.

              I have an unmanaged gigabit switch, can I use that instead of buying a VLAN switch?

              Also by combo device, do you mean a simple router instead of ADSL2+ modem router?

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                kejianshi
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                No - you will either need 30 LAN ports or a 30 port VLAN switch to deliver 30 separate public IPs to 30 Devices.  This is one of those times where I would use a VLAN switch.  Its more cost effective than 30 NIC cards…  Someone else might have a better answer than that for you.

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Hmm, this is outside my usual experience but you can traffic shape on a per IP basis rather than per interface. I would think you could achieve this without needing to use VLANs to separate each client. Also you can disable NAT entirely and have your /27 routed to the clients. How that is done is entirely dependent on how your ISP is providing it though. In that situation you still have the ability to control traffic with firewall rules.

                  Steve

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                    orientalsniper
                    last edited by

                    So even with NAT disabled, traffic shaping should still be able to function?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yes. The traffic is still routed through the box so shaping can be applied. As can firewall rules.
                      There's a good example of this in the existing pfSense book if you have it, Section 8.2.

                      Steve

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                        orientalsniper
                        last edited by

                        Here's what I just did:

                        Disabled NAT, plug a laptop to the LAN interface (192.168.2.1), the laptop got assigned 192.168.2.103. Did the virtual ip and 1:1 NAT like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrBr0N0WrTY

                        I can access WebGui from laptop to 192.168.2.1. I can ping any IP from Pfsense, but laptop cannot connect to any external sites yet.

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                          kejianshi
                          last edited by

                          Can you ping your gateway?  Do you have DNS servers assigned in pfsense? 
                          stephenw10 will know more than me about traffic shaping.  I don't use it. 
                          I have set it up a few times to test and its straight forward.
                          Bandwidth flows like water here for my needs.

                          However, I think you will want to make sure you can ping the gateway and get DNS assigned if you have not.
                          A good place to start is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 but you can research DNS options later.

                          system > general setings

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                            orientalsniper
                            last edited by

                            I can ping xxx.xxx.xxx.98 (pfSense Wan) and 192.168.2.1 (pfSense Lan)
                            But cannot ping xxx.xxx.xxx.97 (ISP gateway)

                            DNS is set to Google's in Pfsense, also set it to the laptop.

                            pfSense can ping any external IP.

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                              kejianshi
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                              haha - Well you can ping your internal network.  Thats a plus.  Could be worse I guess.
                              Can you post screen shots of the setting you have entered?

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                                orientalsniper
                                last edited by

                                I think I got confused.

                                stephenw10 said I could do it without VLAN, but I did what the guy in the video did, which I think you told me it requires a managed switch.

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                                  kejianshi
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                                  Well - Perhaps me and stephen10 have differing ideas of what you define as a "client"

                                  I'm defining a client as a bunch of separate IP cameras and local computers in your immediate vacinity.
                                  In which case I'm thinking, perhaps wrongly so, that I'll need a vlan switch to get public IPs to all those devices.

                                  Perhaps he is thinking of client as clients….  As in people you are supplying IPs to for $$$
                                  Or he could know something I don't.  A better way.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    You should be able to do this either way. I have to confess I have only done this experimentally so I'm a little unsure on the detail.
                                    Using virtual IPs and 1:1 NAT will probably be easier to setup. You have to leave NAT enabled for that to work though, that's probably why you can't ping the gateway (or aren't seeing the ping responses from the gateway).

                                    Steve

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                                      kejianshi
                                      last edited by

                                      I think this is a "Too many cooks in the kitchen thing" like you said before stephen10.
                                      I'll shut up a while so directions for 2 differing recipes don't get mixed into one.

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                                        orientalsniper
                                        last edited by

                                        I just enabled NAT back, but laptop can't ping any external sites.

                                        Here's album:

                                        http://imgur.com/a/PJCsF

                                        External IP(/27) and Virtual IP are the same.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok.
                                          In the first page you said you wanted the public IPs actually assigned to the internal machines but here you are trying to 1:1 NAT to private IPs. You should be able to either but decide which way you need to go. 1:1 NAT is going to be easier to setup, a bit tedious but with only 20 clients do-able. However some software insists on having a public IP and won't run behind 1:1 NAT.

                                          Steve

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                                            orientalsniper
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                                            Ok, sorry!

                                            With NAT, internet connection works, but the laptop is using xxx.xxx.xxx.98 as public IP (pfSense WAN IP).

                                            Well, I can go either way, as long the outbound connection uses a different IP for every computer. My current setup with my clients are using a public IP for each, but different ISP (different IP's), so I guess maybe we should try this way?

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