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    Apinger only working on wan 8/6/13 64bit snapshot

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      eri--
      last edited by

      Can you share your configuration and /var/etc/apinger.conf?

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        grandrivers
        last edited by

        i had to roll back to 8/1/13 snap to fight with isp and  39% packet loss but anything that would help just let me know

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          athurdent
          last edited by

          I think what might be confusing, that apinger shows up in Services now. My test gateway has two gateway objects, each with monitoring disabled as I do not need this. apinger is down in Services. I'd say, that apinger probably does not have to run on that system.

          cat  /var/etc/apinger.conf

# pfSense apinger configuration file. Automatically Generated!

## User and group the pinger should run as
user "root"
group "wheel"

## Mailer to use (default: "/usr/lib/sendmail -t")
#mailer "/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"

## Location of the pid-file (default: "/var/run/apinger.pid")
pid_file "/var/run/apinger.pid"

## Format of timestamp (%s macro) (default: "%b %d %H:%M:%S")
#timestamp_format "%Y%m%d%H%M%S"

status {
        ## File where the status information should be written to
        file "/var/run/apinger.status"
        ## Interval between file updates
        ## when 0 or not set, file is written only when SIGUSR1 is received
        interval 5s
}

########################################
# RRDTool status gathering configuration
# Interval between RRD updates
rrd interval 60s;

## These parameters can be overridden in a specific alarm configuration
alarm default {
        command on "/usr/local/sbin/pfSctl -c 'service reload dyndns %T' -c 'service reload ipsecdns' -c 'service reload openvpn %T' -c 'filter reload' "
        command off "/usr/local/sbin/pfSctl -c 'service reload dyndns %T' -c 'service reload ipsecdns' -c 'service reload openvpn %T' -c 'filter reload' "
        combine 10s
}

## "Down" alarm definition.
## This alarm will be fired when target doesn't respond for 30 seconds.
alarm down "down" {
        time 10s
}

## "Delay" alarm definition.
## This alarm will be fired when responses are delayed more than 200ms
## it will be canceled, when the delay drops below 100ms
alarm delay "delay" {
        delay_low 200ms
        delay_high 500ms
}

## "Loss" alarm definition.
## This alarm will be fired when packet loss goes over 20%
## it will be canceled, when the loss drops below 10%
alarm loss "loss" {
        percent_low 10
        percent_high 20
}

target default {
        ## How often the probe should be sent
        interval 1s

        ## How many replies should be used to compute average delay
        ## for controlling "delay" alarms
        avg_delay_samples 10

        ## How many probes should be used to compute average loss
        avg_loss_samples 50

        ## The delay (in samples) after which loss is computed
        ## without this delays larger than interval would be treated as loss
        avg_loss_delay_samples 20

        ## Names of the alarms that may be generated for the target
        alarms "down","delay","loss"

        ## Location of the RRD
        #rrd file "/var/db/rrd/apinger-%t.rrd"
}
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            grandrivers
            last edited by

            on 8/1/13 snap

            pfSense apinger configuration file. Automatically Generated!

            User and group the pinger should run as

            user "root"
            group "wheel"

            Mailer to use (default: "/usr/lib/sendmail -t")

            #mailer "/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"

            Location of the pid-file (default: "/var/run/apinger.pid")

            pid_file "/var/run/apinger.pid"

            Format of timestamp (%s macro) (default: "%b %d %H:%M:%S")

            #timestamp_format "%Y%m%d%H%M%S"

            status {

            File where the status information should be written to

            file "/var/run/apinger.status"

            Interval between file updates

            when 0 or not set, file is written only when SIGUSR1 is received

            interval 5s
            }

            ########################################

            RRDTool status gathering configuration

            Interval between RRD updates

            rrd interval 60s;

            These parameters can be overridden in a specific alarm configuration

            alarm default {
            command on "/usr/local/sbin/pfSctl -c 'service reload dyndns %T' -c 'service reload ipsecdns' -c 'service reload openvpn %T' -c 'filter reload' "
            command off "/usr/local/sbin/pfSctl -c 'service reload dyndns %T' -c 'service reload ipsecdns' -c 'service reload openvpn %T' -c 'filter reload' "
            combine 10s
            }

            "Down" alarm definition.

            This alarm will be fired when target doesn't respond for 30 seconds.

            alarm down "down" {
            time 10s
            }

            "Delay" alarm definition.

            This alarm will be fired when responses are delayed more than 200ms

            it will be canceled, when the delay drops below 100ms

            alarm delay "delay" {
            delay_low 200ms
            delay_high 500ms
            }

            "Loss" alarm definition.

            This alarm will be fired when packet loss goes over 20%

            it will be canceled, when the loss drops below 10%

            alarm loss "loss" {
            percent_low 10
            percent_high 20
            }

            target default {

            How often the probe should be sent

            interval 1s

            How many replies should be used to compute average delay

            for controlling "delay" alarms

            avg_delay_samples 10

            How many probes should be used to compute average loss

            avg_loss_samples 50

            The delay (in samples) after which loss is computed

            without this delays larger than interval would be treated as loss

            avg_loss_delay_samples 20

            Names of the alarms that may be generated for the target

            alarms "down","delay","loss"

            Location of the RRD

            #rrd file "/var/db/rrd/apinger-%t.rrd"
            }
            alarm loss "CABLEMODEM_DHCPloss" {
            percent_low 3
            percent_high 15
            }
            alarm delay "CABLEMODEM_DHCPdelay" {
            delay_low 60ms
            delay_high 250ms
            }
            alarm down "CABLEMODEM_DHCPdown" {
            time 15s
            }
            target "4.53.194.9" {
            description "CABLEMODEM_DHCP"
            srcip "209.105.187.12"
            interval 3s
            alarms override "CABLEMODEM_DHCPloss","CABLEMODEM_DHCPdelay","CABLEMODEM_DHCPdown";
            rrd file "/var/db/rrd/CABLEMODEM_DHCP-quality.rrd"
            }

            alarm loss "DSL_DHCPloss" {
            percent_low 3
            percent_high 15
            }
            alarm delay "DSL_DHCPdelay" {
            delay_low 60ms
            delay_high 250ms
            }
            alarm down "DSL_DHCPdown" {
            time 15s
            }
            target "4.69.136.185" {
            description "DSL_DHCP"
            srcip "192.168.254.1"
            interval 3s
            alarms override "DSL_DHCPloss","DSL_DHCPdelay","DSL_DHCPdown";
            rrd file "/var/db/rrd/DSL_DHCP-quality.rrd"
            }

            alarm loss "OPT2GWv6loss" {
            percent_low 5
            percent_high 10
            }
            alarm delay "OPT2GWv6delay" {
            delay_low 60ms
            delay_high 250ms
            }
            alarm down "OPT2GWv6down" {
            time 100s
            }
            target "2620:0:ccd::2" {
            description "OPT2GWv6"
            srcip "2001:470:7b:15e::2"
            interval 20s
            alarms override "OPT2GWv6loss","OPT2GWv6delay","OPT2GWv6down";
            rrd file "/var/db/rrd/OPT2GWv6-quality.rrd"
            }

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              phil.davis
              last edited by

              On the gateway status widget, the WANGW first gives a crazy high latency value (screenshot attached), then a few seconds later it goes to "pending". OPT1 always shows 0ms. Ping from a LAN client routing through either interface gives normal values.
              2.1-RC1 (i386)
              built on Tue Aug 6 16:41:59 EDT 2013
              FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p9
              apinger.conf:

              
# pfSense apinger configuration file. Automatically Generated!

## User and group the pinger should run as
user "root"
group "wheel"

## Mailer to use (default: "/usr/lib/sendmail -t")
#mailer "/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"

## Location of the pid-file (default: "/var/run/apinger.pid")
pid_file "/var/run/apinger.pid"

## Format of timestamp (%s macro) (default: "%b %d %H:%M:%S")
#timestamp_format "%Y%m%d%H%M%S"

status {
	## File where the status information should be written to
	file "/var/run/apinger.status"
	## Interval between file updates
	## when 0 or not set, file is written only when SIGUSR1 is received
	interval 5s
}

########################################
# RRDTool status gathering configuration
# Interval between RRD updates
rrd interval 60s;

## These parameters can be overridden in a specific alarm configuration
alarm default {
	command on "/usr/local/sbin/pfSctl -c 'service reload dyndns %T' -c 'service reload ipsecdns' -c 'service reload openvpn %T' -c 'filter reload' "
	command off "/usr/local/sbin/pfSctl -c 'service reload dyndns %T' -c 'service reload ipsecdns' -c 'service reload openvpn %T' -c 'filter reload' "
	combine 10s
}

## "Down" alarm definition.
## This alarm will be fired when target doesn't respond for 30 seconds.
alarm down "down" {
	time 10s
}

## "Delay" alarm definition.
## This alarm will be fired when responses are delayed more than 200ms
## it will be canceled, when the delay drops below 100ms
alarm delay "delay" {
	delay_low 200ms
	delay_high 500ms
}

## "Loss" alarm definition.
## This alarm will be fired when packet loss goes over 20%
## it will be canceled, when the loss drops below 10%
alarm loss "loss" {
	percent_low 10
	percent_high 20
}

target default {
	## How often the probe should be sent
	interval 1s

	## How many replies should be used to compute average delay
	## for controlling "delay" alarms
	avg_delay_samples 10

	## How many probes should be used to compute average loss
	avg_loss_samples 50

	## The delay (in samples) after which loss is computed
	## without this delays larger than interval would be treated as loss
	avg_loss_delay_samples 20

	## Names of the alarms that may be generated for the target
	alarms "down","delay","loss"

	## Location of the RRD
	#rrd file "/var/db/rrd/apinger-%t.rrd"
}
alarm loss "WANGWloss" {
	percent_low 40
	percent_high 50
}
alarm delay "WANGWdelay" {
	delay_low 4000ms
	delay_high 5000ms
}
alarm down "WANGWdown" {
	time 30s
}
target "8.8.4.4" {
	description "WANGW"
	srcip "10.49.82.1"
	interval 2s
	alarms override "WANGWloss","WANGWdelay","WANGWdown";
	rrd file "/var/db/rrd/WANGW-quality.rrd"
}

alarm loss "OPT1GWloss" {
	percent_low 40
	percent_high 50
}
alarm delay "OPT1GWdelay" {
	delay_low 4000ms
	delay_high 5000ms
}
alarm down "OPT1GWdown" {
	time 30s
}
target "8.8.8.8" {
	description "OPT1GW"
	srcip "10.49.81.1"
	interval 2s
	alarms override "OPT1GWloss","OPT1GWdelay","OPT1GWdown";
	rrd file "/var/db/rrd/OPT1GW-quality.rrd"
}

              Gateways.png_thumb
              Gateways.png

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                NOYB
                last edited by

                Working fine here.
                Try stop and restart apinger.

                Gateways.jpg
                Gateways.jpg_thumb

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                  phil.davis
                  last edited by

                  I stopped/restarted apinger on both systems that I had upgraded. The gateway status widget latencies are now showing fine. I had upgraded 3 systems to Aug 6 snapshot - the 2 with multi-gateways had these symptoms. The 1 with only 1 gateway did not have a problem. Not a big enough sample size to decide if multiple gateways being monitored is the real trigger for the "feature". Will report tomorrow if I see the latency numbers go silly again.

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                    doktornotor Banned
                    last edited by

                    @phil.davis:

                    I had upgraded 3 systems to Aug 6 snapshot - the 2 with multi-gateways had these symptoms. The 1 with only 1 gateway did not have a problem. Not a big enough sample size to decide if multiple gateways being monitored is the real trigger for the "feature". Will report tomorrow if I see the latency numbers go silly again.

                    Well, if IPv6 tunnel counts as multigateway, then count me in.

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      It seems to be that the longer the delay to the gateway, the more likely there is to be a problem compounded over time.

                      I set one of my gateways in a VM last night to 8.8.8.8 and within an hour it was into the thousands of ms in delays when in reality it was ~50ms.

                      There is also still an issue with changing monitor IPs requiring a manual restart of apinger.

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                        doktornotor Banned
                        last edited by

                        @jimp:

                        It seems to be that the longer the delay to the gateway, the more likely there is to be a problem compounded over time.
                        I set one of my gateways in a VM last night to 8.8.8.8 and within an hour it was into the thousands of ms in delays when in reality it was ~50ms.

                        Pretty much same here. If I really use the real GW, it does not happen. However monitoring the real GW is rather useless for me, I need to monitor real internet connectivity, not a device a couple of meters away from the firewall.

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                          traxanos
                          last edited by

                          we have the same problem. ping default gateway normal (1.3ms). when we ping the next hop gateway, we have a ping over 600ms). a pink from terminal show a ping of 1.4ms. after a restart of apinger the values correct again.

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                            traxanos
                            last edited by

                            hi we have now used the gateway ip for monitoring and we have the problem on the backup firewall, too. the ms stacked up from time to time. it start with 1ms and after some hours the apinger is over 2000ms. after restart apinger, it start with 1ms and from time to time the value was higher.

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                              ggzengel
                              last edited by

                              My (calculated) ping times growing, too.
                              My rrd graphs from last 6 month are less than 1 pixel.

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                                DrCain
                                last edited by

                                Same problem here.

                                Is it possible to cut out the effected part of the rrd graph?

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                                  mastahfr
                                  last edited by

                                  I've a hard feeling my problem is related: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/3138
                                  Multi wan is going fubbar since I switched from RC0 to RC1 a couple of days ago.

                                  I also confirm that I got the increasing of ping in a linear curve path.

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                                    NOYB
                                    last edited by

                                    @DrCain:

                                    Is it possible to cut out the effected part of the rrd graph?

                                    You could export the RRD to XLM, edit the XML to re-set the values of the effected part of the graph.  Then import the XLM back to RRD.

                                    Export / Import RRD Database
                                    /usr/local/bin/rrdtool dump rrddatabase xmldumpfile
                                    /usr/local/bin/rrdtool restore -f xmldumpfile rrddatabase

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                                      phil.davis
                                      last edited by

                                      I had upgraded a multi-WAN site from 6 Aug 16:41:59 EDT 2013 to the latest snapshot yesterday (so I guess it would have been about a 12 Aug snapshot).
                                      The 6 Aug snapshot was the one when apinger was added to the Services Status list, and apinger started counting up big numbers in the latency field. I was hoping that the later snap would fix everything.
                                      The site was remote from me, and reported "no/intermittent internet". It did seem that OpenVPN links to it were coming and going. I couldn't get on to it long enough to see anything real. From the descriptions, it was probably constantly failing over from 1 gateway to the other and back, and/or thinking that both gateways were down…
                                      I got them to switch slices and reboot, so it is back on 6 Aug snapshot. When I logged in just now the latency figures on the OPT! gateway were showing silly high numbers. I have disabled gateway monitoring on both gateways, and things have stabilised. For the moment, there will be no auto-failover at this site.
                                      Unfortunately I can't give any better information, and for obvious reasons I don't want to roll forward at this site just now!
                                      How are the apinger changes going? Do others have multi-WAN test systems that can be used as guinea-pigs?

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        I have four gateways on three interfaces on a test VM and it was OK there, but they aren't "real" WANs.

                                        Can you give any more information about your exact gateway config there?

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                                          phil.davis
                                          last edited by

                                          WAN - DHCP, attached to a WiMax device that has its own private IP and NATs out to internet. (Gets an address 10.1.1.x from the WiMax DHCP server)
                                          OPT1 - static private IP to a TP-Link ADSL router, which again NATs out to the real internet.

                                          WANGW - Monitor IP 8.8.8.8 - latency thresholds 4000 to 5000ms - packet loss thresholds 40 to 50% - probe interval 2 sec - down 30 sec.

                                          OPT1GW - Monnitor IP 8.8.4.4 - latency thresholds 4000 to 5000ms - packet loss thresholds 40 to 50% - probe interval 2 sec - down 30 sec.

                                          These connections have reasonably high latency normally, and when saturating the links with downloads the latency would normally go high, hence the wacky high gateway monitoring parameters to prevent gateways from being declared down when they are in fact "working".

                                          Unfortunately I can't tell the exact symptoms, since it was a phone call and instructions about how to go back. The CF card multi-slice thing is very useful. As per previous post, I do know that links were coming and going, as I observed OpenVPN site-to-site links establishing for a minute or so, then dropping out.

                                          I am at another site with multi-WAN at the moment. If I can gain a little confidence that apinger in the latest build is working OK and seems to be controlling failover OK, then I can upgrade here this evening and will be around to monitor it the next few days. This site is on a 31 Jul snap, which was before the recent apinger changes. So I will easily be able to switch back slices if needed. (I am not at home with a real test box)

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            I pulled up another VM that has a better multi-WAN config and it was still OK there.

                                            Though when I was experiencing problems before the latest round of fixes, it was worse with high-latency gateways, so it's possible that the issue is compounded by the actual latency there. To reproduce it you may have to artificially induce the same level of latency.

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