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    • G
      gderf
      last edited by

      Most likely your ISP assigns IP addresses via DHCP and your attempt to assign an IP address statically will fail.

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        taktje
        last edited by

        i use a private ip  address for the  wan si de.
        router  192.168.11.1

        pfsense wan 192.168.11.xxx

        pfsense plan 192.168.1.1

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          NOYB
          last edited by

          If the WAN is connected to a typical ISP then that won't work.  For several reasons.  Here are the two biggies:

          1. The pfSense WAN must be configured accordingly to the equipment at the other end.  Such as DHCP or static address, DNS, gateway, etc.

          2. 192.168.x.x is private address space and is not routed over the internet.

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            biggsy
            last edited by

            taktje, it looks like you are using double NAT

            router  192.168.11.1

            pfsense wan 192.168.11.xxx

            pfsense plan 192.168.1.1

            Do you have a cable modem/router or a separate router between the cable modem and pfSense?

            If a separate router, what is it doing?  It would be better to connect pfSense directly to the cable modem.

            If it's a combined modem/router can you bridge it (turn off the routing) and use pfSense to do that?

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              taktje
              last edited by

              it's a seperate router.

              i know i am doing double nat.
              i am  testing pfsense at home for fun.

              why does everything works fine When  the  wanside get's An ip from dhcp?
              i don't see why setting a static ip/24 and gateway of 192.168.11.1 won't work

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                doktornotor Banned
                last edited by

                @taktje:

                why does everything works fine When  the  wanside get's An ip from dhcp?

                Because DHCP does not misconfigure things, unlike you?  :-*

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                  kejianshi
                  last edited by

                  Its a matter of policy - Much like assigning a static IP in the DHCP range isn't good for you on pfsense, so its the same for them.  :-X  (kiss free zone)

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                    taktje
                    last edited by

                    Because DHCP does not misconfigure things, unlike you?  :-*

                    Thx nice answer ;D
                    i only want some help and this  helps alot.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      And what are you setting for the mask and gateway?

                      I have yet to see a soho router that cares if your IP is static or dchp as long as your on the correct network.  And nothing is stepping on the IP your using, via a dhcp on another box.

                      if you router your behind is 192.168.11.1/24

                      Then you should have not issues setting pfsense lan as 192.168.11.2/24 with gateway of 192.168.11.1

                      What are you using for dns?  I find sometimes when users say they have no internet, what it means is that www.something.com does not resolve..  Can you ping 192.168.11.1 from wan of pfsense, from lan side of pfsense

                      edit: fixed typo of what gateway to use ;)

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        yeah My bad - corrected ;)

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                          taktje
                          last edited by

                          My setup is :

                          Cable modem

                          Router wan ip 82.73.xxx.xxx

                          Router lan: DHCP 192.168.11.100 - 192.168.11.255
                                          Netmask:    255.255.255.0 
                                          Gateway:      192.168.11.1

                          Pfsense :WAN            192.168.11.39/24 (static ip)
                                      Netmask      255.255.255.0
                                      Gateway      192.168.11.1

                          Pfsense: Lan              DHCP 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.255
                                      Netmask        255.255.255.0
                                      Gateway        192.168.1.1

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                            ptt Rebel Alliance
                            last edited by

                            And What about  your DNS Servers settings ?

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                              kejianshi
                              last edited by

                              Here is the thing.  Is this the USA?  If so, they like to hold you hostage with DHCP.
                              They will give a consumer an IP via DHCP and change it periodically.
                              They could just as easily give you a static IP but they know that if they do that you can run a server there.
                              So, they will pull out all the stops to make sure you never get a static assignment to work…

                              UNLESS you pay them extra for a "business" connection, which is pretty much the same connection you have now except they don't hamstring you with dynamic IPs and blocked port 25 "for your safety".

                              If you pay them more, they will allow what you are trying to do and stop screwing you on port 25.  Its extortion.

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                                kejianshi
                                last edited by

                                You know what?  It actually takes effort on the part of an ISP to make internet this broke.
                                A business connection is basically just an un-tampered-with, unmolested connection with simple bandwidth limits.

                                (End of ISP rant - My advice is go with the DHCP setup on WAN and get yourself a DynDNS account)

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                                  doktornotor Banned
                                  last edited by

                                  To move this somewhere: what's exactly "no internet"?

                                  traceroute 8.8.8.8
                                  traceroute www.google.com

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                                    kejianshi
                                    last edited by

                                    I had the exact same thing happen to me and none of my settings were wrong.  Doesn't take a genius to type in an IP address and a subnet.
                                    However, I knew what was going on.  Its the ISP - If you want a static IP they will make you buy one.

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                                      ptt Rebel Alliance
                                      last edited by

                                      @kejianshi:

                                      I had the exact same thing happen to me and none of my settings were wrong.  Doesn't take a genius to type in an IP address and a subnet.
                                      However, I knew what was going on.  Its the ISP - If you want a static IP they will make you buy one.

                                      Where, the ISP comes to Play in the OP Scenario ?

                                      Setup:

                                      Cable modem -> router -> Pfsense Wan -> Pfsense Lan -> PC

                                      My setup is :

                                      Cable modem

                                      Router wan ip 82.73.xxx.xxx

                                      Router lan: DHCP 192.168.11.100 - 192.168.11.255
                                                      Netmask:    255.255.255.0 
                                                      Gateway:      192.168.11.1

                                      Pfsense :WAN            192.168.11.39/24 (static ip)
                                                  Netmask      255.255.255.0
                                                  Gateway      192.168.11.1

                                      Pfsense: Lan              DHCP 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.255
                                                  Netmask        255.255.255.0
                                                  Gateway        192.168.1.1

                                      it's a seperate router.

                                      i know i am doing double nat.
                                      i am  testing pfsense at home for fun.

                                      why does everything works fine When  the  wanside get's An ip from dhcp?
                                      i don't see why setting a static ip/24 and gateway of 192.168.11.1 won't work

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                                        kejianshi
                                        last edited by

                                        Hmmm.  I was under the impression he was trying to static IP on the pfsense connected to the modem.
                                        That might have been wrong and if so, then yeah - My rant wouldn't apply.

                                        If he is double NATing, should be easy so long as OP assigns different IP to the WAN on pfsense2 than is on pfsense1, puts it outside the DHCP range on the LAN (assuming DHCP is running) and unchecks the block private IP block.

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                                          chpalmer
                                          last edited by

                                          taktje-

                                          Can you ping your cablemodem through the pfsense box?

                                          c:>ping 192.168.100.1

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                                            taktje
                                            last edited by

                                            Are you kidding me?

                                            There is nothing to ping at 192.168.100.1

                                            cable modem gives a wan ip to my router of 82.73.xxx.xxx

                                            I think it's a DNS issue.

                                            I set everything to "default settings" (again) and try again.

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