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      heirkeyso
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      Sir,

      Should I install the squid and squidguard? Which better to use between the squidguard and dansguardian?

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        heirkeyso
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        Sir,

        Please see below if my understanding is correct about the squid, squidguard and dansguardian

        Squid

        • its a proxy server that help to cache a website for a certain network
        • help or improves internet browsing speed for the clients using the caching capability of squid

        Squidguard

        • its a add-on of squid
        • use for blocking a website base on url only
        • you can configure here for the exception on blocking a website or user who will you allow for the certain website

        Dansguardian

        • its a different or separate package from squid
        • it can block a website using content filtering meaning it will check the whole website if will access it or block it.

        These are my question
        -> Is the statement above correct? Do I miss something? Kindly correct me or add if there is wrong about it and missing.
        -> Is it a good practice(as a pfsense user) or is it a common practice to install the squid, squidguard and dansguardian?
        -> What is squid3? Is it the same with squid?

        Thank you in advance

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Dansguardian still requires a proxy to operate so it is also in addition to Squid. The advantage of Dansguardian (as far as I know!) is that you have things like keywords and phrase matching. This means that even a new website that is not on blacklists can be blocked.

          There are two Squid packages 2.x and 3.x. Squid3 offers more features but is considered less stable, well tested, than older Squid 2 series.

          I am not an expert in these things. I have run Dansguardian in the past but not with pfSense. There are a number of threads here on the forum and many, many other web pages discussing Dansguardian vs Squidguard. For example: http://www.theninjageek.co.za/blog/2013/07/02/pfsense-squid3-and-dansguardian-a-better-alternative-to-squidguard/

          Steve

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            kejianshi
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            If you use dansguardian, stick with squid and not squid3 unless it has a feature you absolutely need.

            The combo of dansguardian + squid3 was sort of painful for me.

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              heirkeyso
              last edited by

              Sir,

              Are you suggesting to install dansguardian and squid? And these two are the best combination for control the accessing the websites?

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                kejianshi
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                No - What I'm suggesting is that IF you install dansguardian, squid might be less trouble than squid3.  Thats all I'm saying.
                dansguardian does work OK to limit access to porn and things like that.  It doesn't help limit anything in HTTPS though.
                Also, really smart kids will figure out that they can search images and see the images without actually going to a porn site.

                NOTHING works 100%

                At best you can make it annoying to browse porn.  Very difficult to stop it completely.

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                  heirkeyso
                  last edited by

                  Sir,
                  Now i.understand what are you trying to say. Which.is better? Squidguard or dansguardian?

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                    kejianshi
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                    I don't know - I've never ran squidguard.  I'm sure lots of people have opinions on that issue.
                    You can ALSO control access to certain sites by using either OpenDNS or DynDNS.
                    Both of those will allow you to open an account and set up blocking preferences.

                    Then you can have pfsense get its DNS from OpenDNS or DynDNS and you can have everything on your network get its DNS fro pfsense DNS forwarder.  This work very well also either by its self or in combination with either dansguardian of squidguard.

                    Where are you located?  I'd pick DNS service closest to you if you do that.

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                      heirkeyso
                      last edited by

                      I'm from philippines

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                        kejianshi
                        last edited by

                        I REALLY miss that place  :-[ 
                        Gotta get there again soon.

                        Anyway - I'd use OpenDNS - They have 2 servers near(ish) to you.
                        DynDNS only has 1 sort of close.

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                          heirkeyso
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                          Sir,

                          I'm trying to configure the pfsense for web proxy cache and content filtering using squid 3 and dansguardian. Base on my web search one of the instruction is to configure in the firewall to redirect all the http request or port 80 to 8080. When I following there instruction I'm getting an error of SSL error and I cannot access the pfsense webconfiguration.

                          Below is the link what I follow for the configuration.
                          http://www.theninjageek.co.za/blog/2013/07/02/pfsense-squid3-and-dansguardian-a-better-alternative-to-squidguard/

                          Kindly assist me with this.

                          Thank you

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                            kejianshi
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                            You can direct all of port 80 in and that will work, but not port 443.  OK?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              If you put in a firewall rule that redirects all traffic on port 80 that may include traffic for the webgui. Either change the port the webgui listens on or add a rule above the squid rule to allow traffic to the webgui without redirection.

                              Steve

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                                heirkeyso
                                last edited by

                                I'm confuse. Is it necessary or mandatory to redirect the port? What us the purpose of doing it?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Redirecting port 80 is necessary in that configuration. It captures http requests from clients behind pfSense and sends them to Squid/Dansguardian.

                                  Steve

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                                    heirkeyso
                                    last edited by

                                    Sir,

                                    I was trying to follow the instruction on the link I gave in the last post. I'm getting a trouble accessing the pfsense webconfig. Now I'm really confuse and don't know what to do. Kindly assist me with this.

                                    Thank you in advance.

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                                      kejianshi
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                                      Try this.

                                      at the command line:

                                      pfctl -d

                                      Now - Access your pfsense web menu.  Correct the rule that locked you out.  When you are sure you have fixed the rule that caused the lock-out, then:

                                      pfctl -e

                                      You can always do this if you make a mistake and lock yourself out of the web interface.

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                                        onlinecentric1
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                                        Sir/Madam!
                                        I am new in pfsense.
                                        Please, advice me which activities are allowed in this forum.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Read the rules:

                                          http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,70.0.html

                                          Don't hijack someone else's thread to ask an unrelated question.  ::)

                                          Steve

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                                            shehan31
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                                            I had the same problem but still haven't received any thing to my question which is on the pfsense forum. Therefore I have work out my self and found some kind of a solution. I suggest you to switch off transparent mode and configure your browser for proxy. use the DNS as your PFsense local IP address and add a dns forwarders in your pfsense. use squid guard to mange url filtering. It will also filter https too. There is a small problem with this. the block pages may not display the error message that you have entered.

                                            @heirkeyso:

                                            Sir,

                                            The diagram what I present to you is not a good practice?

                                            I want to use the pfsense for the purpose to serve as a internet or the pfsense is the giving an internet connection to the user and in the same time I can block the website the are using like the social media(facebook, tweeter and etc)., instant messenger, torrent and etc. for the users and I want also to control whose user will I block or gave a full access for the website or url.

                                            Below are my concern:
                                            -> documentation or manual for setting up pfsense
                                            -> if I already finished set-up the box how can I block the https://www.facebook.com and https://www.twitter.com?
                                            -> setting up port forwarding. is it the same in configuring in link-sys router?
                                            -> Is the i7 processor with 8gb ram will enough for the around 60 users?

                                            Sorry for these questions. I'm just new to pfsense and I just want to know everything before I deploy to our office network.

                                            Thank you in advance for your response.

                                            Precious

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