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Successful Install on Watchguard Firebox X700!

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    cologuy
    last edited by Jul 22, 2013, 9:30 PM

    I got another 4gb CF card and copied a 2.0.3 1GB image on it and it boots fine.

    I have read about the serial port baud rate issue but I'm not clear on when to
    change it. I go through the setup and skip the vlan setup and assign re0 to the WAN and re1 to
    the LAN (no option not to) and then the system boots to "Bootup complete" and hangs.

    There is no chance that I see to assign IP's or access the webconfig command prompt to make
    these changes:

    console="comconsole"
    comconsole_speed="115200"

    Where is that supposed to happen?

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Jul 22, 2013, 11:31 PM

      The LAN interface will be on 192.168.1.1 with dhcp enabled by default. You should be able to access the box on that way to complete the setup wizard. In 2.0.3 you have the option of setting only WAN if you want to do it that way. Just press enter when it asks for the LAN interface.

      Steve

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        cologuy
        last edited by Jul 23, 2013, 7:37 PM

        Thanks, I was on a different sub-net so I never saw it on my network.

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          mleducxittel
          last edited by Aug 27, 2013, 10:00 AM

          This is a really interesting POST.  However, following the WatchGuard Hardware Guide, I'm concerned about the performances.  Did you know if somebody have proceed with some benchtests?

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Aug 27, 2013, 11:23 AM

            I guess people haven't really tested it's maximum possible throughput because the NICs are limited to 100Mbps. See this post though: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7458.msg164371.html#msg164371

            Watchguard claim ~275Mbps firewall throughput. The throughput in pfSense is likely to lower since it's FreeBSD rather than Linux. That's not always the case though. That figure refers to the maximum summed throughput on all interfaces so it's complex to setup and not relevant for most cases. You could group some interfaces using LAGG if you have a suitable switch but that still won't help unless your test stream is multiple connections.

            What are you looking for in terms of performance? What are you using the box for?

            Steve

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              webspeed
              last edited by Aug 30, 2013, 9:49 AM Aug 30, 2013, 9:34 AM

              Hello,

              I want to install pfsense on a Firebox x700 but I don't have a serial cable and I can't therefore reach the console to go through the initial configuration.

              Could someone be so kind to share an image of their working embedded 4g pfsense with LCD driver / WGXepc and post a download link?

              Thanks

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Aug 30, 2013, 12:40 PM

                I could probably manage that sometime this weekend, I'll have to check the status of my X-Core box. However you should really have a serial console cable. Sometimes it's the only way of accessing the box, if you've accidentally locked yourself out for example. They are very cheap and easily available (in most places).

                Steve

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                  webspeed
                  last edited by Aug 30, 2013, 9:24 PM

                  @stephenw10:

                  I could probably manage that sometime this weekend, I'll have to check the status of my X-Core box. However you should really have a serial console cable. Sometimes it's the only way of accessing the box, if you've accidentally locked yourself out for example. They are very cheap and easily available (in most places).

                  Steve

                  Thanks Steve, the image would give me the instant gratification we all crave :) even though I guess buying a serial cable is inevitable…

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                    drdyno
                    last edited by Aug 31, 2013, 1:02 PM

                    Steve,

                    Have you ever tried to use the 256mb CF card that came in the firebox to install pfsense or you just get bigger cf cards?

                    I hate going out to buy one if i dont have to.

                    I managed to pick up a x550e this week for $50

                    Jeff

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Aug 31, 2013, 2:04 PM

                      The smallest pfSense Nano image is 512MB. The price of 2GB CF cards is pretty low but I agree I hate spending money unnecessarily.  ;)

                      Steve

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                        webspeed
                        last edited by Aug 31, 2013, 9:38 PM

                        @drdyno:

                        Steve, have you ever tried to use the 256mb CF card that came in the firebox to install pfsense or you just get bigger cf cards? I hate going out to buy one if i dont have to. I managed to pick up a x550e this week for $50. Jeff

                        Search eBay and you'll see Hitachi 4gb microdrives listed for $5 shipped, not a big investment :)

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Aug 31, 2013, 9:41 PM

                          Careful with those. Not all microdrives support ATA mode on the interface.
                          http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Microdrive_embedded_installations

                          Steve

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                            CuriousG
                            last edited by Sep 5, 2013, 5:02 AM

                            Today I had an issue with the webgui so I decided to reboot through the LCD, I did hear the speaker where it would indicate it was going to reboot but after about a minute I tried the procedure again and that didn't work.  So I just manually flipped the switch.  When I turned it back on, all I got on the LCD was a bunch of blocks on the top half the of the display.

                            Has anyone run into this issue where the CF fails to boot?  I've had this in production for about 3 months running pfSense 2.03 upgraded from 2.02.

                            I'm not sure if I saved the configuration so is there a way for me to extract the configuration before rewriting the CF?  This is using a 2GB Team CF rated 133X.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Sep 5, 2013, 9:38 AM

                              You can mount the card and read it on a FreeBSD system. The config.xml file is stored in the config slice which is the smallest of the three on the card.

                              The two X700 boxes I've had behaved differently. The one I have currently working shows the row of blocks exactly as you describe before booting correctly. The previous one showed various things during the boot stages but eventually stopped booting all together. I think it was a dead capacitor on the board but it also had transit damage. Before it died completely it would boot maybe every third try. You could tell it wasn't going to boot because the arm/disarm LED did something odd (I can't quite remember what).

                              Steve

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                                webspeed
                                last edited by Sep 11, 2013, 7:39 AM

                                I need some help with two pesky issues:

                                1. Getting hyper terminal to connect to Firebox x700 console. I bought a Cisco console cable (same that Watchguard provides) and I can't see any output either with Hyper Terminal or Putty, check the configuration, etc. to no avail.  I installed pfsense both on a CF card and on a PATA drive, and tested it on a laptop, it worked fine.  I also check that the Firebox x700 is in working order by installing the original 64mb CF card back in, booted fine.

                                2. Removing the heatsink, it's one of those bright orange copper things and I don't see how to remove it, I downloaded Watchguard's manual and it says "Remove CPU by disconnecting heatsink clip and lifting socket arm" but I don't see how to disconnect said clip, it's embedded in the center of the clip like a tight belt.

                                Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Sep 11, 2013, 8:01 AM

                                  Do you see any output from the console when you boot the Watchguard OS? The console speed is 115200 for the original OS and 9600 for pfSense. You will have to change the speed to avoid the serial port at some point.
                                  https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Serial_Port_Quirk
                                  If you don't see any output then you probably have the wrong cable.

                                  Steve

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                                    webspeed
                                    last edited by Sep 12, 2013, 12:09 AM

                                    @stephenw10:

                                    If you don't see any output then you probably have the wrong cable.
                                    Steve

                                    Can you point to an example of the right console cable? I bought a "RJ45 to DB9 Cisco Console Management Cable", same as provided by Watchguard, it should work.

                                    Regards

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by Sep 12, 2013, 8:07 AM

                                      Hmm, how have you connected this? The console port on the x-core is db9 not rj45.
                                      I would expect to use something like this:
                                      http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Modem-Cable-P450-006/dp/B000067SCH
                                      I haven't tried that cable personally.

                                      Steve

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                                        webspeed
                                        last edited by Sep 14, 2013, 6:03 AM

                                        Thanks for your answer and the link. The cable I bought has DB9 on one end (to the Firebox) and a RJ45 on the other (to ethernet on my laptop). Hyperterminal says it's "connected" but I never get any output

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                                          doktornotor Banned
                                          last edited by Sep 14, 2013, 7:26 AM

                                          @webspeed:

                                          Thanks for your answer and the link. The cable I bought has DB9 on one end (to the Firebox) and a RJ45 on the other (to ethernet on my laptop). Hyperterminal says it's "connected" but I never get any output

                                          Oh… lol. This cannot work. You need DB9 -> USB. Like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230584255185

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