Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Building new Firewall for 20~30K users @ 1Gbps

    Hardware
    7
    36
    5.4k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • K
      kejianshi
      last edited by

      asterix - I'm a bit unclear on how well the firewall process and a few other things work across multiple cores on pfsense?

      That got me wondering if 4x  2 core pfsense VMs would better utilize 8 cores than a single pfsense with 8 cores at its disposal?

      I don't know?  Never tried to scale pfsense very big, but I know some have.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • W
        wallabybob
        last edited by

        @kejianshi:

        asterix - I'm a bit unclear on how well the firewall process and a few other things work across multiple cores on pfsense?

        The packet filter is currently single threaded but apps can run in parallel with it.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • K
          kejianshi
          last edited by

          Yeah - Thats what I thought.  Whats the best scheme to get the most out of the processors/cores available if packet filtering is the primary load?

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • A
            asterix
            last edited by

            Forgot to add.. yes since its multiple cores.. the best way to deploy this would be on ESX and multiple VMs as clusters.. on separate hosts.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • K
              kejianshi
              last edited by

              Hmmm - I'd like to see how this turns out.  Sounds ambitious.  I'm pretty sure pfsense can tackle it.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • S
                stryfe
                last edited by

                I think you'll be ok with a dual xeon server..  The VM idea would be good too but that would involve a lot more cost.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • K
                  kejianshi
                  last edited by

                  Costs?  Describe please?

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • S
                    stryfe
                    last edited by

                    Cost of doing a single machine to handle the load versus the hardware to handle multiple instances plus the cost of VM software itself.  I'm sure that would work great but would it be cost effective?  You would just have to break down the cost and see what would be the best options.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • K
                      kejianshi
                      last edited by

                      I see - Couldn't do it with Vsphere for free?

                      http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=vsphere%20pfsense&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vmsources.com%2Fresources%2Fdoc_download%2F38-installing-pfsense-in-vsphere-esxi&ei=pS4lUuWUEcLc2QXS_oCwBQ&usg=AFQjCNExtgqa942vB1q4SW-IfJ-Ndx2UQg&cad=rja

                      Edit - (I initially said Hyper-V - Obviously I was being scatter brained)

                      Anyway - I know that 32 bit instances of pfsense 2.1 run well on ESXi.
                      I did have some issue with the 64bit version, but only when using more than 4 WAN IPs. 
                      It was perhaps a glitch in that particular snapshot and may already be resolved.  Not sure.
                      I haven't played as much with 2.1 as I'd like yet.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • S
                        stryfe
                        last edited by

                        I don't believe vSphere is free.  I know pfsense offers an install instance you can easily install into a VM environment. But the actual VM software itself I don't believe is free.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • K
                          kejianshi
                          last edited by

                          http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere-hypervisor/

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • S
                            stryfe
                            last edited by

                            Learn something new everyday lol!  If that's the case then all you'll have is hardware at that point and from there you can maybe setup pfsesnse in a load balance type setup.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • S
                              stryfe
                              last edited by

                              On another note I've found what I'm going to install on my new server I'm going to buy.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • K
                                kejianshi
                                last edited by

                                And that is?

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • M
                                  maverick_slo
                                  last edited by

                                  ESXi 5.X free hypervisor :)
                                  At least this is how I imagine what he ment :)

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • S
                                    stryfe
                                    last edited by

                                    Yep!!  I already use it at work for 2 or 3 test machines and since it's free and I have licenses for all the server OSes may as well take advantage of it. :)

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • K
                                      kejianshi
                                      last edited by

                                      Good deal.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • S
                                        stryfe
                                        last edited by

                                        This has got me wondering now how pfsense can be integrated into this with a load balancing type configuration.  That would be an ideal solution.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • K
                                          kejianshi
                                          last edited by

                                          There are tons of links here and there on the subject of pfsense / cluster / carp / load balance.  Etc Etc.

                                          I haven't tested any of them, but they should work in VM just fine if they work in physical machines.

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • S
                                            stryfe
                                            last edited by

                                            Ha I need to search more but you're right if they work in physical they should work in virtual and better actually.

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.