Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    X750e - won't boot from CF;

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Hardware
    14 Posts 3 Posters 2.8k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      You won't be seeing anything like the cards rated speed because DMA is disabled by default on the NanoBSD images. Usually it's not worth spending more on faster cards for that reason. If you re-enable DMA/UDMA you'll find pfSense won't boot and throws DMA errors. There is a hardware workaround for that if you can solder.  ;)

      Steve

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • D
        Dr_Drache
        last edited by

        well, that's good to know, what about IDE drives? :P
        yes I can solder,
        no I havn't had a chance with the unit as of yet.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          If you install the nano image to a hard drive you'll still only get PIO speeds. However you could re-enable DMA since all the hardware is there to support it. Full install is full speed by default.

          See this post for the hardware mod to enable UDMA CF support. I've not tried it.  ;)
          http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,56572.0.html

          Steve

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • D
            Dr_Drache
            last edited by

            I plan on trying it, but trying to decide if this is the way to go,

            or use this :
            http://www.kingspec.com/product_xx28.html

            which i have a few of… right now, due to being at work, I can only read the forums and wish, and think what I may have done wrong.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Sure, run the nano image off that. Should work great. Edit /boot/loader.conf to remove the line disabling DMA for full speed. That file may be overwritten by a firmware update. Not all (most of mine) X-Core-e boxes have the IDE socket populated, that may be an issue.

              Steve

              Edit: The correct way to enable DMA, which will survive an update is detailed here:
              http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Boot_Troubleshooting#NanoBSD_on_Newer_Hardware

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • D
                Dr_Drache
                last edited by

                mine is populated, but these devices happen to run with the 44-pin IDE configuration (laptop IDE) which requires use of the rear connector. (with dell/hp adapter of course)

                I know we are going back and forth here, so, install NAN0-image to the ssd DOM, as if it was a CF card, then boot from it;
                I have to ask, what do i "LOSE" from using a nano; over a full install? (not interested in snort, or massive cache)

                BTW, you're help and work on this platform got me into pfsense more than "oh nice, a router"; I'm a Systems Admin by hobby and profession,
                but honestly, always left the deep networking up to, the network guys.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • K
                  kejianshi
                  last edited by

                  Quick interjection…

                  Id bet you will kill this quickly with a full install - but not nano.

                  http://www.kingspec.com/product_xx28.html

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    I would definitely run nano on that but others have run DOMs with a full install without issue.
                    By running Nano you loose access to some packages, I forget exactlt which but I think Asterisk and LightSquid are the important ones. You can't cache in Squid, as you've said, Snort can be an issue when it updates. You loose any persistent logging as it's all held in RAM but you can use an external syslog server.

                    Steve

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • D
                      Dr_Drache
                      last edited by

                      @kejianshi:

                      Quick interjection…

                      Id bet you will kill this quickly with a full install - but not nano.

                      http://www.kingspec.com/product_xx28.html

                      perhaps, but on a offnote, I've been using kingspec SSD's for 3+ years? (mostly the DOM styles), and had 1 fail in use, and 2 DOA, I've had "mainstream" SSDs fail with a much higher %; names I won't drop here, because it's not relevant. is that a long time? no, it's not. I understand that. at the same time, their entire line was geared for industrial useage; do i use kingspec on a desktop? never have; never will if I can help it, the performace I desire, will not be there. (OMG raid-0 SSDs? nooooO! ;P)

                      stephenw10;
                      that seems fine for me, NANO it is; I use an external log server (even at home, call me obsessive) anyway; thank you for all the advice for this new-guy :P

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • K
                        kejianshi
                        last edited by

                        I think any SSD can go the distance if its not abused.  I think a full install + squid cache will abuse any small MLC SSD.
                        Nano shouldn't.  I'd boot nano off my crappy ATP earthdrive thumb drive even.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • D
                          Dr_Drache
                          last edited by

                          update guys;

                          I havn't touched this box in a while, will let you know how it goes as soon as i get the chance.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • First post
                            Last post
                          Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.