Openvpn bsdcrypto acceleration
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I do NOT run snort, ever. Anywhere. Period. :P (For the Alix, absolutely a no go anyway.)
As for OpenVPN, pretty good for the stuff the HW is used. All I need is a couple of users connected via OVPN or IPsec using some DB servers on LAN, though. Haven't done any bandwidth benchmarks frankly, not needed for me.
For busy sites, well this one should rock: http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm - however "Production expected for early 2014" :( :'(
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Do you not like snort? I know it probably wouldn't work well on the cf card, but do you have a reason not to use it? So overall you are satisfied with the alix? I just need those for smaller networks supporting 10 or less users with cctv over openvpn at night.
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Do you not like snort? I know it probably wouldn't work well on the cf card, but do you have a reason not to use it?
The CF is not the main problem. The CPU/RAM definitely is. Otherwise, beyond being the ultimate source of all sorts of cryptic breakage, requiring 24/7 babysitting and endless tuning and disabling of the broken rules, I'm pretty sure its excellent software. ::)
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10-4. Do you use pfblocker?
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You should be able to get at least 50Mpbs of VPN from that Atom board, probably more. Without anything else running at least. See this post:
http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,27780
Steve
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Thanks. I wonder why mine is so slow. I have glxsb or whatever checked and the option for bsdcryptoengine is selected in the openvpn server settings.
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Glxsb won't help you on an Atom, it's a Geode specific hardware driver.
Are you actually seeing very bad vpn throughput or just bad results from open SSL speed?Steve
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no complaints, just the speed test for openssl. both of the ones i test are running a magnetic hd, would a cf card unit return a faster speed?
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It shouldn't make any difference to either real vpn throughput or open-ssl speed results.
Steve
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I don't see the geode recognized in the dmesg output: Do i need to have 64 bit? This is weird.
cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
padlock0: No ACE support.there is no entry for glsxb either as noted in this post:
"Boards utilizing the AMD Geode platform typically have the "AMD Geode LX Security Block" which supports certain encryption types. It will show up in dmesg as the glxsb device:" glxsb0: <amd geode="" lx="" security="" block="" (aes-128-cbc,="" rng)="">mem 0xefff4000-0xefff7fff irq 9 at device 1.2 on pci0
http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Are_cryptographic_accelerators_supported</amd></software> -
This is on your Atom box yes? Then that's expected, there's no hardware crypto.
Steve
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So essentially the dual core is slower for openvpn than an Alix 2d3 with a vpn1411 accelerator ?
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Well I would say no because of Databeestje's test report on the D510. He was seeing >50Mbps VPN traffic in one direction. The Alix can't manage that even with the Hifn accelerator.
You haven't posted a complete output from openssl speed yet. That might show something.
Coincidentally I have been playing around with an old firebox testing it's Safenet crypto card this evening. I've found some interesting things. Here's some output for comparrison:Without the Safenet 1141.
[2.0.3-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(1): openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 4443103 aes-128-cbc's in 2.89s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 1258138 aes-128-cbc's in 2.91s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 318359 aes-128-cbc's in 2.87s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 80907 aes-128-cbc's in 2.89s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 10450 aes-128-cbc's in 2.98s OpenSSL 0.9.8y 5 Feb 2013 built on: date not available options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx) compiler: cc available timing options: USE_TOD HZ=128 [sysconf value] timing function used: getrusage The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed. type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-cbc 24627.37k 27709.88k 28411.35k 28646.12k 28707.23kWith the card:
[2.0.3-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(13): openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 117285 aes-128-cbc's in 0.14s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 110095 aes-128-cbc's in 0.05s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 93032 aes-128-cbc's in 0.04s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 56316 aes-128-cbc's in 0.05s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 8643 aes-128-cbc's in 0.00s OpenSSL 0.9.8y 5 Feb 2013 built on: date not available options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx) compiler: cc available timing options: USE_TOD HZ=128 [sysconf value] timing function used: getrusage The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed. type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-cbc 13690.32k 156398.83k 538937.61k 1147202.67k 70803456.00kThe numbers make it look as though the card speeds things up massively but in reality my testing has showed that the box performs better, for OpenVPN at least, without the card in it. Moreover the card has to actually be removed from the box. No amount of selecting 'no hardware encryption' had any effect, which is how the OCF is supposed to work as I understand it. The wiki page exaplins this somewhat by saying that in reality VPN traffic is small blocks of data so the really big numbers are not any help.
Steve
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$ openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc
OpenSSL 0.9.8y 5 Feb 2013
built on: date not available
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
compiler: cc
available timing options: USE_TOD HZ=128 [sysconf value]
timing function used: getrusage
The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes
aes-128-cbc 20742.63k 22943.08k 23652.34k 23832.40k 23883.13kI get 7Mb on a 1gz, 1 gb of ram via neoware box. smokes my dual core…
$ openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc
OpenSSL 0.9.8y 5 Feb 2013
built on: date not available
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
compiler: cc
available timing options: USE_TOD HZ=128 [sysconf value]
timing function used: getrusage
The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes
aes-128-cbc 38135.72k 190433.15k 884307.27k 2274631.30k 4013679.73k$ openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -engine via
OpenSSL 0.9.8y 5 Feb 2013
built on: date not available
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
compiler: cc
available timing options: USE_TOD HZ=128 [sysconf value]
timing function used: getrusage
The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes
aes-128-cbc 46147.44k 189884.01k 676914.89k 3349549.48k 6945314.10kAny way to test actual throughput? iperf?
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It should do the Via probably has the Padlock encryption engine built in. But like I say above numbers aren't everything. ;)
Steve
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How are you testing throughput?
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A ridiculous long chain of machines! :D
An OpenVPN connection between two machines, the box I'm testing and one that's much more powerful to guarantee it's not slowing things down. I establish the VPN and then run iperf using the powerful end as the server and a laptop behind the test box as a client.
I saw ~25Mbps with various encryption types with the card but ~33Mbps once I removed it.Steve
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two machines on the same router, but different interfaces?
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Yes as it happens they are connected via separate interfaces on my home router. They could just as easily have been connected directly though.
Steve
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Thanks for the info. I'll try it out and see what results I get. What setup do you like for the best bang for your buck for SMB users. 10 or less users.
