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    • T
      tguldener
      last edited by

      Bad news - also in the Alpha Release of FreeBSD10 is the 8111G Support missing  :'(

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        xtra-james1
        last edited by

        well … then I will use the unit as a Linux server if we can't get working this network adapters in 2013 ... really awesome.

        I don't understand why this network adapter is so different compared to the RTL8111E.

        Не знаю, но да

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          tguldener
          last edited by

          It looks like that it will work in the next FreeBSD 10 Version:

          Index: sys/dev/re/if_re.c

          –- sys/dev/re/if_re.c (revision 255582)
          +++ sys/dev/re/if_re.c (working copy)
          @@ -234,6 +234,10 @@
          { RL_HWREV_8168E_VL, RL_8169, "8168E/8111E-VL", RL_JUMBO_MTU_6K},
          { RL_HWREV_8168F, RL_8169, "8168F/8111F", RL_JUMBO_MTU_9K},
          { RL_HWREV_8411, RL_8169, "8411", RL_JUMBO_MTU_9K},

          • { RL_HWREV_8168_0, RL_8169, "8168G/8111G", RL_JUMBO_MTU_9K},
          • { RL_HWREV_8168_1, RL_8169, "8168G/8111G", RL_JUMBO_MTU_9K},
          • { RL_HWREV_8168_2, RL_8169, "8168G/8111G", RL_JUMBO_MTU_9K},
          • { RL_HWREV_8168_4, RL_8169, "8411", RL_JUMBO_MTU_9K},
            { 0, 0, NULL, 0 }
            };

          @@ -1457,6 +1461,10 @@
          case RL_HWREV_8168E_VL:
          case RL_HWREV_8168F:
          case RL_HWREV_8411:

          • case RL_HWREV_8168G_0:
          • case RL_HWREV_8168G_1:
          • case RL_HWREV_8168G_2:
          • case RL_HWREV_8168G_4:
            sc->rl_flags |= RL_FLAG_PHYWAKE | RL_FLAG_PAR |
                RL_FLAG_DESCV2 | RL_FLAG_MACSTAT | RL_FLAG_CMDSTOP |
                RL_FLAG_AUTOPAD | RL_FLAG_JUMBOV2 |
            Index: sys/pci/if_rlreg.h
            ===================================================================
            --- sys/pci/if_rlreg.h (revision 255582)
            +++ sys/pci/if_rlreg.h (working copy)
            @@ -191,6 +191,10 @@
            #define RL_HWREV_8402 0x44000000
            #define RL_HWREV_8168F 0x48000000
            #define RL_HWREV_8411 0x48800000
            +#define RL_HWREV_8168G_0 0x4c000000
            +#define RL_HWREV_8168G_1 0x4c100000
            +#define RL_HWREV_8168G_2 0x50900000
            +#define RL_HWREV_8168G_4 0x5c800000
            #define RL_HWREV_8139 0x60000000
            #define RL_HWREV_8139A 0x70000000
            #define RL_HWREV_8139AG 0x70800000
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            xtra-james1
            last edited by

            great, at least with FreeBSD 10.

            they won't merge it to the FreeBSD 8 I suppose?

            What about a Debian installation with a pfSense installation running in VirtualBox? Beside the performance it may work good enough until we get a better solution..  :D

            Не знаю, но да

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              tguldener
              last edited by

              @kushtrim:

              they won't merge it to the FreeBSD 8 I suppose?

              I ask for FreeBSD 8 Support, but I don't think that someone is willing to work again on FreeBSD8. The corrent Version is 9 and the next Version is 10. So soon is FreeBSD 8 not anymore supportet. PFSense is still on FreeBSD 8.3 and the FreeBSD 8.4 is already listet as legacy release. So I hope, that PFSense will push the change to FreeBSD 9 or 10. On FreeBSD 9 or 10 it's possible to get the new drivers directly into the kernel.

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                tguldener
                last edited by

                So, the discussion is back on PFSense developers ;-)

                Hi Thomas,

                I recommend getting ahold of the pfsense guys with this question.

                Scott

                On Sep 15, 2013, at 2:35 AM, wrote:

                Is it also possible to get a working kernel in FreeBSD 8.3 for PFSense support?

                g.
                Thomas

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                  miloman
                  last edited by

                  I also have a ds47. Nice little device.

                  I installed debian/kvm on it. I have a running virtual pfsense on it. Throughput around 110mbit.

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                    tguldener
                    last edited by

                    @miloman:

                    I also have a ds47. Nice little device.

                    I installed debian/kvm on it. I have a running virtual pfsense on it. Throughput around 110mbit.

                    i'd like to have a working version without virtual pfsense  ;)

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      You could attempt to cherry pick the code that added 'G' support and insert it into the 8.3 driver. I imagine it's not a straight forward copy and paste job though. The surrounding code may have changed substantially between 8.3 and 10.

                      Steve

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                        tguldener
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10:

                        You could attempt to cherry pick the code that added 'G' support and insert it into the 8.3 driver. I imagine it's not a straight forward copy and paste job though. The surrounding code may have changed substantially between 8.3 and 10.

                        Steve

                        Right Steve, but it's not impossible to get the "G" support also in 8.3. The problem is, in PFSense is no FreeBSD sources and i'm not a developer. I have the files from Realtek to build the driver for "G" support in FreeBSD but I don't now, how I can build it for PFsense.

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                          kejianshi
                          last edited by

                          I'm liking the VM idea more and more - Or maybe use as a small workstation.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            You need to build it in a standard FreeBSD 8.3 install and then move it across to pfSense. The instructions all talk about building a completely new kernel but I would first attempt to build the driver as a kernel module and load it as that's much easier. I have done that succefully with the msk(4) driver and I know it's been done with em(4) too.
                            It has been done for re(4) aswell to support slightly newer 8111: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,58150.0.html
                            I don't know how new the driver has to be to support G.

                            Steve

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                            • NeverSimpleN
                              NeverSimple
                              last edited by

                              I also own a Shuttle DS47 that I wanted to use to replace my existing pfSense hardware in my home network. As others have found out, the NIC's on the device are Realtek 8111G, which aren't supported on FreeBSD 8.3, 8.4 or 9.2, so also not on pfSense 2.0x or 2.1.

                              As mentioned in an earlier post, there is source code to build a FreeBSD kernel module on the Realtek Website, which I used to do exactly that.

                              The module was build on a FreeBSD 8.3p11 installation (pfSense 2.1) and tested on FreeBSD 8.3 and with pfSense 2.1-RELEASE.
                              The attached module should be placed in /boot/kernel/ and the file /boot/loader.conf should be modified to include the line 'if_re_load="YES"' (in a pfSense full install; nano could be different, don't know)

                              Because I had a bit of trouble getting an editor to work properly when booted into single user mode (WARNING: shell not fully functional?), I include a copy of the 'loader.conf' file so it can just be copied to it's location. Of course, this is a standard 'loader.conf' from a fresh 2.1-RELEASE install.

                              If more detail is needed, ask.

                              I did some very simple testing with the NIC's on FreeBSD 8.3 and they seem to work fine. Copying files on my network gets me around 70MB/s transfer speed, which seems reasonable for something like a DS47. (I get 100MB/s between Windows8 and FreeNAS9). I had it 'wget'ting a lot of files from the internet and it used my full bandwidth for hours, without problems.

                              On the other hand, I'm having a hard time getting pfSense 2.1-RELEASE to work with it. I'm using PPPOE over a VLAN on the WAN side to connect to my ISP. I'm doing that right now with a pfSense box (2.03), so it can work. I now get very erratic behaviour; while it sometimes connects for a very short time it usually does nothing. I haven't spent a lot of time debugging this, it could still be PICNIC… I had expected to just copy my config from the 2.03 box and be done with it, but things are never simple...
                              so my final verdict on the pfSense install is still to come...

                              Two files attached in a gzipped tar: the kernel module (if_re.ko) & loader.conf. NOTE: Please remove the .txt extension.

                              Richard

                              8111G_module.tar.gz.txt
                              8111G_module.tar.gz.txt

                              pfSense 2.7 home router
                              Shutlle DS77U (passively cooled Intel Celeron CPU 3865U)
                              8GB RAM, OCZ 60GB SSD
                              NIC's: build in Intel i211 & i219LM

                              Business: several Netgate devices

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                              • T
                                tguldener
                                last edited by

                                Great work Richard

                                I will test it in the next days

                                g.
                                thomas

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Nice!  :)
                                  Can you give us a link to the source for that module? Is it 32 or 64bit?

                                  You should probably put the modules in /boot/modules and add the line to /boot/loader.conf.local but either will work. The file loader.conf.local gets copied across an update but the modules won't (in Nano at least) so you might want to keep a copy handy. Create loader.conf.local if it doesn't exist.

                                  Steve

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                                  • NeverSimpleN
                                    NeverSimple
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10:

                                    Nice!  :)
                                    Can you give us a link to the source for that module? Is it 32 or 64bit?

                                    Mhh, should have mentioned that…  :-\ . I compiled the driver with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-amd64 p11. The link to the source code is given in the first post of this thread, by the OP:

                                    http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=2&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false

                                    Description                      version  update time  size
                                    FreeBSD 7.x and 8.0        1.83      2013/5/16      64k

                                    Browsing through that source code, it looks like it is really old, no specific mention of the 8111G. The Realtek page header says it IS for the 8111G (among others). The included 'Readme.txt' only mentions the 8168G which seems to use the same driver as the 8111G. Maybe it's basically the same device, don't know.

                                    When using a FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASEp11 (or 9.2-RC4) with the standard re(4) driver, the kernel complains about an unknown hardware revision for re0/re1 (0x4c000000). When I scan the Realtek source code for that, it looks like i'm getting a hit so I decided to just build the module, because it is really simple. Trial and error...

                                    Regarding the 32/64bit issue i kinda hoped that the driver source code itself isn't specific for either one. It's compiling the module that makes the difference. The examples given by Realtek are about i386, i just substituted the pathnames with amd64. Experimenting a little is always fun  :)

                                    You should probably put the modules in /boot/modules and add the line to /boot/loader.conf.local but either will work. The file loader.conf.local gets copied across an update but the modules won't (in Nano at least) so you might want to keep a copy handy. Create loader.conf.local if it doesn't exist.

                                    Okay, we'll do that.

                                    The driver still seems to work fine with FreeBSD, I'll see if the weekend brings an opportunity to test it with pfSense again. If someone could point me to some good current info about setting up pfSense with PPPOE over a vlan on the WAN side, I'd be grateful. It seems easy enough, but even in 2.0x (where it works fine now) I found it difficult. Probably just me…

                                    Richard

                                    PS: is it just me or is the verification picture REALLY difficult to read? 2 posts and 10 tries just seems wrong.....

                                    pfSense 2.7 home router
                                    Shutlle DS77U (passively cooled Intel Celeron CPU 3865U)
                                    8GB RAM, OCZ 60GB SSD
                                    NIC's: build in Intel i211 & i219LM

                                    Business: several Netgate devices

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                                    • NeverSimpleN
                                      NeverSimple
                                      last edited by

                                      Update:

                                      Because I could not get 2.1-RELEASE-amd64 to work with the DS47 with the newly compiled Realtek 8111G driver, I decided to build the driver again with the i386 version of FreeBSD. After installing pfSense 2.1-RELEASE-i386 and using the compiled kernel module, pfSense crashed with a kernel panic every time I plugged in the WAN connection. If I left the WAN connection unplugged, pfSense would boot up normally and let me go through all the configuration options without problems. Plug in the WAN cable: boom, kernel panic..  >:(

                                      So I decided to try pfSense 2.03. This is what I'm using right now, on another box, and it works fine (and has for years, with previous versions, same hardware).

                                      So installed FreeBSD 8.1 p13-amd64, build the module, installed pfSense 2.03, let it use the module: exactly the same behaviour as above. Kernel panic as soon as I plug in the WAN connection.

                                      So, right now, nothing really works. I don't know exactly what is causing this. The driver seems to be working fine with FreeBSD plain, both 8.1 and 8.3. I copied hundred's of gigabytes over my network for hours without problems.

                                      It could be that:

                                      1 - the VLAN option is causing problems with the driver. I cannot test pfSense for real without it, that's how my ISP works.
                                      2 - Something goes wrong when building the driver, although I would think it's really easy to do. But I'm no expert by any means.
                                      3 - Using the module isn't enough, the standard re(4) driver that is compiled into the standard pfSense kernel should be removed.
                                      4 - Something else…  ::)

                                      I would really be interested if other people could test this and/or build their own kernel modules.
                                      There is nothing more entertaining than spending your Sunday constantly breaking the family's internet connection. Mhhh...

                                      Richard.

                                      PS: I'll attach the module build with FreeBSD 8.3-p11-i386 and 8.1-p13-amd64. Again, remove the .txt extension.

                                      [FreeBSD Realtek Kernel module.tar.gz.txt](/public/imported_attachments/1/FreeBSD Realtek Kernel module.tar.gz.txt)

                                      pfSense 2.7 home router
                                      Shutlle DS77U (passively cooled Intel Celeron CPU 3865U)
                                      8GB RAM, OCZ 60GB SSD
                                      NIC's: build in Intel i211 & i219LM

                                      Business: several Netgate devices

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                                        Guldil
                                        last edited by

                                        oh man you are my hero ;-)

                                        I can't get an ip with my new fanless computer, this jetway got 2 Realtek RTL811EVL PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet LAN
                                        You can check my thread here : http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,66464.msg363431.html

                                        I just tried your driver with 2.1 i386 and at first boot i got an ip for my WAN ;-)

                                        Thanks a lot !

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                                        • NeverSimpleN
                                          NeverSimple
                                          last edited by

                                          Glad it was at least useful to someone…  :)

                                          I'm still having problems with pfSense using the Realtek 8111G NIC's. Little more work to do, I guess.

                                          I really wished Shuttle made these devices with Intel NIC's. They are so great for a pfSense home router. Wouldn't care if that increased the price somewhat.

                                          Just curious: I assume you used the FreeBSD 8.3P11-i386 module from the last post? Because I forgot to mention the equivalent pfSense version; I guess that's easy enough to find though.

                                          Just in case someone might want to know:

                                          pfSense 2.1  is based on FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p11
                                          pfSense 2.03 is based on FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p13

                                          Anyway, good luck with your router!

                                          Richard

                                          pfSense 2.7 home router
                                          Shutlle DS77U (passively cooled Intel Celeron CPU 3865U)
                                          8GB RAM, OCZ 60GB SSD
                                          NIC's: build in Intel i211 & i219LM

                                          Business: several Netgate devices

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                                            Guldil
                                            last edited by

                                            @NeverSimple:

                                            Just curious: I assume you used the FreeBSD 8.3P11-i386 module from the last post? Because I forgot to mention the equivalent pfSense version; I guess that's easy enough to find though.

                                            Yes i knew that pfsense 2.1 is based on 8.3 and pfsense 2.0 based on 8.1.

                                            And before i saw your message, i was testing some if_re.ko found on this forum.

                                            My question  : what will happen when a new version comes out ?
                                            And can the developper of pfsense use the offcial 1.83 module of realtek ?

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