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    Thanks for the utterly broken 2.1 update.

    Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      kejianshi
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      Primarily, right of the bat…  First thing that jumps into my mind is squid.  Lots big huge cache.  Also RRD data storage.  You could use disk for cache instead of some big ram disk and memory for fast squid cache also.

      Assuming your CPU doesn’t cry...

      But I would not load too much on it.

      (Down-side is that a full install is more prone to corruption if you have a nasty habit of throwing the power switch without shut-down often)

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        adegans
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        Each Soekris will do; firewalling, load balancing (2x 40mbit dsl), DHCP, DNS, NTP and captive portal (Radius) and perhaps VPN on one of the machines.

        I could give it a go… I didn't fix the downed Soekris yet - Doing some other stuff now to lower the frustration levels :).
        Could I use the Memstick install (pfSense-memstick-serial-2.1-RELEASE-i386.img.gz)? Or what do you suggest?

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          kejianshi
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          I'm the wrong person to ask for the best embedded install type…  But I'd assume memstick will throw away most of your drive capacity, but work.

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            adegans
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            But I kinda need serial capability, if the regular download has that then that would work too I think ;)

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              kejianshi
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              https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Console_Types

              I'm not in love with the prospect of trying to do an install without a monitor!

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                adegans
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                Right, so for my hardware im limited to the nanobsd images or the memstick version.
                I'll is the memstick version more full featured than embedded that you know of?

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                  kejianshi
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                  Well - I think the nano versions are for particular sized CF cards so I'd think memstick is more flexible that way.

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                    adegans
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                    I see, i'll poke around a bit more and try to find out what's what.

                    Thanks for your answers and advise.

                    I've noticed there are a lot of people having trouble with 2.1, I hope it gets resolved soon :)
                    I think I'm gonna dust off my old soekris (4801) to test out the differences between the various images.

                    If I don't forget I'll post my findings in a thread somewhere on the forums here.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      The memstick serial image is to write onto a usb stick. Then you boot from the USB stick, all the output is on the serial console, and install to the HD just like the CD. If you select the embedded kernel during the install you will then have a serial console by default when you then boot from the HD.

                      Alternatively you can remove the HD and install pfSense to it in another machine from the CD. Once you have it installed and running you can enable a serial console in the webgui so that you have console access when you transfer it back to the soekris box.

                      Steve

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                        kejianshi
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                        "Alternatively you can remove the HD and install pfSense to it in another machine from the CD. Once you have it installed and running you can enable a serial console in the webgui so that you have console access when you transfer it back to the soekris box."

                        So you end up with a full install and a working console?  Correct?  I like this plan for a 250GB WD HDD.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Yes, exactly. I'm not sure quite what you get by selecting the embedded kernel, it used to be no packages but that isn't the case now, everything seems available - more than nano even. I have used this process for HD install on a firebox X-core-e but it's more difficult in that box. The process is described for an older box, and older pfSense, here:
                          https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Soekris_4801_Hard_Drive_Installation

                          Some stuff in that document no longer applies; you can choose the standard install and select serial console later, you don't need to do any VLAN stuff because you only need one interface to get up and running.

                          When you tarnsfer back the HD and boot the box it will dump you at the assign interfaces dialogue because the NICs will (probably) be different in the Soekris box to the laptop.

                          Steve

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                            kejianshi
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                            When I did this before (Transplanting a HDD) It worked right away because I went from having an EM0 and EM1 to a totally different box that still had an EM0 and EM1. Just dumb luck.

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                              adegans
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                              I've used the memstick serial to a USB stick of 4GB - Booted the Soekris, installed per default using the full 250GB disk in the Soekris (instead of nanoBSDs 4GB partition).
                              Then selected "Embedded kernel" near the end and it seems to work so far. Trying to set up interfaces and stuff now. I just finished installing 5 minutes ago.

                              So far so good…

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Since you've not come back I hope it turned out OK. Sorry your upgrade experience wasn't the smooth transition everyone hopes for.  :)

                                Steve

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                                  adegans
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                                  I've tried to upgrade my other soekris which also failed… Guess I need to re-install it with the memstick thing too, tomorrow...
                                  Which seems to work.

                                  When I dd in a copy of the NanoBSD variant the config keeps getting erased after a reboot. Somethings not right with the 4G image I think. But I can't really confirm.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Hmm, strange. Unless you really need the space, and I suggest you don't, then I would recommend you use the 2GB image on 4GB cards. The actual size of most 4GB cards is often less than 4GB, sometimes substantially. It's possible the config slice is corrupt because it not getting completely written to the card. If 2.0.3 worked though that shouldn't be an issue.  :-\

                                    Steve

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                                      kejianshi
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                                      Sounds like his settings were being saved in RAM not Disk.  Not sure how that would happen though.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        It could not, or at least I've never seen or heard of it and can't think how it could!
                                        Completely missing config file, not just interface re-assign, is usually either corrupt storage somehow or mistakenly running live.

                                        Steve

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                                          kejianshi
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                                          Live would do it…

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                                            Efonnes
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                                            I just wanted to note that the embedded kernel is mainly intended for running on devices that can't run the regular kernel because of lack of VGA, etc.  It does not change anything about how pfSense writes to disk, where it writes to disk, or how often it writes to disk.  Some people have the mistaken notion that selecting the embedded kernel changes those aspects somehow, but it does not.  The partition layout and configuration of the internal scripts are what do that, which the kernel selection does not change.

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