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    Problem with two lan networks and access to ap

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      firefox
      last edited by

      I do not think it is blocked
      Because it worked great before upgrading

      Could it be because the gateway

      The new package appears under Services Status

      apinger – Gateway Monitoring Daemon

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        doktornotor Banned
        last edited by

        @kejianshi:

        Usually when I see someone troubleshooting a problem with SNORT running I just abandon the thread, however…

        Disable snort? Works? Disable both snort and squid? Works? And with that, I'm out of this thread, following the good advice above, essential for mental sanity.

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          kejianshi
          last edited by

          This thing is a full-on broadband router - Are you 100% sure your are NOT running any of its many functions that will break its ability to play well with pfsense?

          level one WBR-3406TX Wireless Broadband NAT Router

          Please do me a favor…  Draw me a diagram how this this is connected also.

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            firefox
            last edited by

            When I changed this router to ap
            I followed online Guide
            I canceled the dhcp
            I canceled the firewall
            I plugged to the lan port
            I gave him a fixed address outside the range of dhcp addresses of pfsense

            The only thing there is a network name ssid
            And password to the network

            And again it worked properly for six months
            Just two days ago after upgraded the pfsense
            I do not have access to the management interface

            I have not changed anything there

            again
            Thanks for the help

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              kejianshi
              last edited by

              OK - I'm going to go ahead and join you in not knowing whats wrong.

              Is this a stand alone machine?

              Could you boot this pfsense from livecd with no packages and no rules and try?

              This way can know if 2.1 works for you but maybe your settings or packages are just screwed up.

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                firefox
                last edited by

                @kejianshi:

                Is this a stand alone machine?

                I did not understand what it means stand alone machine ?

                I will describe what I have

                I took a computer without an operating system with nothing
                I added three network cards

                Downloaded from the website of pfsense
                Version 2.0.3 to burn to disc

                I turned on the computer and installed the system

                Beyond that I do not have much access to this computer
                One network card connected to the modem
                Second network card is connected to the switch
                Third network card connected to AP

                I do not have a disk with version 2.1
                I'll have to download and burn

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                  kejianshi
                  last edited by

                  I would try it with a livecd.  This way you don't have to go changing settings to experiment to find out if its just the settings or packages.
                  You can tinker and the changes will not be permanent.

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                    firefox
                    last edited by

                    OK
                    I downloaded the file, burn it
                    I turned on the system from the disk
                    I defined the interfaces according to what I wrote earlier

                    I currently browses through the operating system disk

                    Still no access

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      The IPv4/v6 thing is not relevant here. With it enabled by default in the beta and RC images it sometime caused odd connection problems when people had broken IPv6 implenmentations at their ISP or router/AP.

                      My money is on Snort. Do the Snort get correctly copied across the update? Check the logs, what is being blocked?

                      Steve

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                        firefox
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10:

                        My money is on Snort. Do the Snort get correctly copied across the update? Check the logs, what is being blocked?

                        I currently browses through the live cd
                        No package

                        Still no access

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Lost that bet then!  ::)

                          Check the firewall logs anything blocked? You've unchecked 'block private networks'?

                          Forget accessing the webgui of the AP. Try some basic pinging. Try to ping everything from everything else! Check the logs again.

                          Steve

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                            firefox
                            last edited by

                            There Pings
                            Both to ap
                            Well as computer connected wirelessly to ap

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Sorry I'm not sure quite what you mean there. What can ping what?  :-\

                              Steve

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                                firefox
                                last edited by

                                i can ping from a computer that Connected to the Wired network
                                to the AP
                                to a computer connected to the Wireless Network

                                And Reverse

                                i can ping from a computer that Connected to the Wireless Network
                                to a computer connected to the wired Network

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Ok.
                                  Can you ping from the pfSense box to the AP? to a wireless client?
                                  Can you ping from the AP to the pfSense box or a wired client?

                                  I have a router I use as an access point that behaves exactly as yours is doing and the reason is that it has no route to get packets back to clients on the other subnet. The AP/router usually uses it's WAN port for anything that isn't in its LAN subnet but in this scenario it has no WAN so it has no route. I have successfully worked around this by setting a subnet mask on the AP that contains all the local subnets, i.e. /16 However I have an AP this doesn't work for.
                                  That doesn't explain why it worked fine under 2.0.3 though.  :-\

                                  Steve

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                                    firefox
                                    last edited by

                                    from pfsense to AP - There is Ping
                                    from pfsense to wireless client - no ping
                                    from AP to pfsense - no ping
                                    from AP to wired client - no ping

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                                      phil.davis
                                      last edited by

                                      from pfsense to AP - There is Ping

                                      That would go out from 192.168.2.1 on pfSense directly to the AP. So pfSense OPT1 and the AP have compatible (hopefully the same) subnets.

                                      from AP to pfsense - no ping

                                      I guess that was from AP, ping 192.168.1.1 - the pfSense LAN IP. In that case the AP probably does not know how to route to that. If you tried to ping 192.168.2.1 then that is good, but you will need to have added a pass rule on OPT1 after booting the LiveCD version.

                                      I can't understand what has happened here - the symptoms look a lot like an AP subnet/mask/default gateway problem. But it is pfSense that has been upgraded - so what is the real cause of the problem???

                                      Can you post the actual AP:

                                      • IP address
                                      • network mask
                                      • default gateway for LAN (or tell us that there is no setting for that)

                                      and confirm that OPT1 is 192.168.2.1/24 and has a pass rule with source any (or OPT1 net).

                                      As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                                      If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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                                        firefox
                                        last edited by

                                        Few answers

                                        Interfaces configured so

                                        Wired network 192.168.0.1/24      –----> go to Switch          dhcp on pfsense 192.168.0.30 -- 100

                                        Wireless Network 192.168.2.1/24  ------> go to AP                dhcp on pfsense 192.168.2.30 -- 100

                                        AP Fixed address  192.168.2.101

                                        ping from pfsense 192.168.0.1 to AP 192.168.2.1 There is Ping

                                        ping from AP 192.168.2.1 to pfsense 192.168.0.1 no ping

                                        OPT1 = WIFI = 192.168.2.1/24

                                        Here are screen shots of the management interface of the AP

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                                          firefox
                                          last edited by

                                          MORE

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                                            doktornotor Banned
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                                            Afraid your WAN should be set to Disabled, not Dynamic IP Address.

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