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    Update pfsense 2.0.1 stable to 2.1 problem with routes

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      maykel535
      last edited by

      the ip where I want to end, is 192.168.1.20, this in the linux server, 10.100.100.4, I mean right?

      Sorry for my english.

      Thanks for all.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Trying to route in and out of the same interface.

        The firewall rule you would need is:
        source: LANnet destination: 192.168.1.20 allow gateway: system default

        10.100.100.4 is not in the 10.0.0.1/16 subnet

        Steve

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          maykel535
          last edited by

          10.0.0.1/16 network that I commented that it was fictional, it was not real, was to simulate my local network to not put my ips internal rank for SAFETY!

          IP REAL:

          LAN PFSENSE: 10.100.100.3
          IP LINUX VPNC: 10.100.100.4
          IP where I'm going, which is connected to the vpn 10.100.100.4: 192.168.1.20

          http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/9b7f.png/

          clearer the water …

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            maykel535
            last edited by

            Is more, from pfsense if I get to the IP 192.168.1.20

            [2.1-RELEASE][root@pfsense-mo2o-ketchum.mo2o.com]/root(1): ping 192.168.1.20
            PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20): 56 data bytes
            64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_seq=2 ttl=127 time=50.328 ms
            64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_seq=3 ttl=127 time=46.436 ms
            64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_seq=4 ttl=127 time=43.714 ms
            64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_seq=5 ttl=127 time=46.687 ms

            Is more:

            netstat -ar    return:

            192.168.1.20/32    10.100.100.4      UGS        0        6    em0

            From ip host lan pfsense, for example, 10.100.100.200, try to traceroute:

            root@pre:~# traceroute 192.168.1.20
            traceroute to 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
            1  isp (ip public isp)  1.534 ms  1.592 ms  1.611 ms
            2  isp (ip public isp)  2.107 ms  2.199 ms  2.234 ms
            3  192.168.66.121 (192.168.66.121)  2.747 ms  2.847 ms  2.868 ms^C

            Pfsense not route working…

            This routed me to the internet instead of enrutarme to 10.100.100.4 to reach 192.168.1.20, I have explained well. I think I can explain and better.

            What is the problem?? I dont understand anything...

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              maykel535
              last edited by

              Is more,

              I shutdown pfsense 2.1, and I turned on pfsense 2.0.1 I had a backup before performing the upgrade. And look …

              root@pre:~# ping 192.168.1.20
              PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
              From 10.100.100.3: icmp_seq=1 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 10.100.100.4)
              64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=1 ttl=127 time=28.7 ms
              From 10.100.100.3: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 10.100.100.4)
              64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=2 ttl=127 time=28.3 ms
              From 10.100.100.3: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 10.100.100.4)
              64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=3 ttl=127 time=29.8 ms
              ^C
              --- 192.168.1.20 ping statistics ---
              3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms
              rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 28.399/28.989/29.840/0.616 ms
              root@pre:~# traceroute 192.168.1.20
              traceroute to 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
              1  10.100.100.3 (10.100.100.3)  0.577 ms  0.600 ms  0.631 ms
              2  10.100.100.4 (10.100.100.4)  0.766 ms  0.826 ms  0.897 ms
              3  192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20)  31.176 ms  31.609 ms  31.779 ms

              came perfectly to 192.168.1.20

              BUG PFSENSE 2.1 ROUTES???

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                maykel535
                last edited by

                http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/30/ynvc.png/

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                • pttP
                  ptt Rebel Alliance
                  last edited by

                  @maykel535

                  Not related to your issue, but is better if you attach the screenshots directly to your post reply, instead of imageshack ;)

                  attach.PNG
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                    maykel535
                    last edited by

                    Worth, and you have to see what these commenting me photo to the problem that I have … There is a piece of bug in pfsense, I assure you.

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                      maykel535
                      last edited by

                      For the moment and to take my headaches, I have set up the backup pfsense routes 2.0.3 stable and work well. Until we solve this BUG, we will continue with this version.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        @maykel535:

                        root@pre:~# traceroute 192.168.1.20
                        traceroute to 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
                        1  isp (ip public isp)  1.534 ms  1.592 ms  1.611 ms
                        2  isp (ip public isp)  2.107 ms  2.199 ms  2.234 ms
                        3  192.168.66.121 (192.168.66.121)  2.747 ms  2.847 ms  2.868 ms^C

                        Where is the machine in this traceroute, 192.168.66.121? That is also in the 192.168.0.0/16 subnet. It's not surprising pfSense is getting confused if it can access that subnet via both gateways.

                        Why does ping work but traceroute doesn't.  :-\ Edit: Misread that.

                        Steve

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                          maykel535
                          last edited by

                          Ip that is not ours, I teach a traceroute goes from pfsense 2.0.3:

                          [2.0.3-RELEASE] [admin@pfsense-mo2o-ketchum.mo2o.com] / root (1): traceroute 192.168.1.20
                          traceroute to 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
                            1 10.100.100.4 (10.100.100.4) 1,020 ms 0.615 ms 0.586 ms
                            2 * 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 28.836 ms 37.787 ms

                          All ok not see? While the traffic routes. Pfsense 2.1 The problem is that when I try to get from an internal host to the ip 192.168.1.20 instead of route to 10.100.100.4, I routed to our wan. What makes it completely wrong.

                          It's the same rule for pfsense 2.0.3 to 2.1 that is more I tried to delete it and recreate it. Hallucinate with pfsense 2.1 not understand anything. I assure you the route is straight.

                          Probe a facility from 0 to pfsense 2.1 stable instead of doing an upgrade, and import the configuration xml, yet not strip.

                          I do not know what else to do, so as a need for programmers routes, will continue with pfsense 2.0.1 until they fix the bug, although they say it's not a bug.

                          Sorry for my english.

                          Thanks for all, true.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            It seems very strange to me that you have a private subnet somewhere upstream of your public WAN IP.

                            You need to look at the pfSense routing table and see if it has somehow acquired a route to 192.168.. on the WAN. Perhaps via some new routing protocol introduced in 2.1.

                            Normally if you had specified a gateway in the firewall rule, and that rule is actually catching the traffic, then it can only use that gateway. However there is a background rule that will by-pass that for local networks the 'negate rule'. You can turn it off in System: Advanced: Firewall/NAT. That also existed in 2.0.3 but perhaps it didn't recognise it as local there.

                            In 2.0.3 do you need to have a firewall rule specifying a gateway?

                            Specifying a gateway on the same interface that the traffic arrives is the sort of thing that can fail to work. See NAT reflection for example.

                            Steve

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                              maykel535
                              last edited by

                              I spent alone with the IP 192.168.1.20, it happens with all routes. A little weird right? Indeed, for fanjar this topic I say I've tried to add the same routes to pfsense 2.1 BETA and I have worked flawlessly. Pfsense 2.1 if stable has a bug or if, or add something new to fuck routes because it does not work any of the 4 that I have on pfsense 2.1 stable. There is a bit weird that I work perfectly in pfsense routes 2.0.1 stable and 2.1 BETA!

                              Thanks for everything.

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                                tpramos
                                last edited by

                                Same problem her. In 2.0.3 routes work fine, in 2.1 do not!
                                Test upgrading in place and fresh install, both not work.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  The same sort of static routes to an internal gateway?

                                  Steve

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                                    tpramos
                                    last edited by

                                    Yep! two Pfsense with Wan in same network.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Can you specify the routes and under what conditions they don't work? For example maykel535 was able to use the route from the pfSense box itself but not from a client in the same subnet as the gateway.

                                      Steve

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                                        maykel535
                                        last edited by

                                        do not compliqueis more, I can not lose more time with this because in pfsense 2.1 BETA works. Something as simple as a route, I can not lose more time. There is a bug and I just want to help you solve … A shame since pfsense 2.1 stable comes with a amount of improvements as MultiWAN dynamic dns and a bunch of bug fixes.

                                        The real problem is that instead routes of enrutarte to the host that is, it takes you out to the wan and not because there is anything wrong, but simply routed bad this version of pfsense 2.1

                                        We will have to wait ...

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                                          __Fox__
                                          last edited by

                                          any officiale update or replay to this problem?
                                          Upgrading to 2.1 in multi WAN-LAN configuration is a hell!

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                                            tim.mcmanus
                                            last edited by

                                            I too had some routing issues from 2.03 -> 2.1.  I think 2.0.3 was more forgiving with routes than 2.1.  And interestingly enough, I too am running a multi-WAN.

                                            In my configuration I have two LANs and two WANs.  I want each LAN to go out a different WAN, so I created a rule with each gateway in it.

                                            When this is set up in 2.0.3, LAN to LAN2 communication will occur without a specific rule to route traffic between them.  However, I had to specifically create a rule in each LAN to route traffic between them or else it would not happen.  I assume this is due to creating a rule specifying which gateway each LAN needs to use.  It was pretty frustrating for a few week since the LAN serves resources up to LAN2 and vice versa.

                                            I've attached screen shots of my new rules.  But as I mentioned before, an upgrade from 2.0.3, which was working flawlessly, to 2.1 required me to troubleshoot and create new explicit rules to route traffic between my two LANs.

                                            So for folks experiencing issues, I would recommend that you sit down and think about rewriting your rules and validating them.  I had to do hours of testing to ensure that my new rules worked and didn't break anything else.

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