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      drashna
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      I downloaded the FreeDOS image from here: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Flashing_the_BIOS
      I had actually redownloaded the image to make sure it wasn't a bad downloaded and still. I used physdisk to write the image to the CF card (the 256MB one that came with it).
      And seeing the boot screen, I can definitely confirm it's an Award BIOS, and matches the specs that BIOSID outputs.

      And it's not that it wouldn't backup the BIOS. That worked fine. It's trying to flash that backup that fails (invalid checksum), so yeah, I think the CF card may be bad.

      And I don't know if the Watchguard OS boots fine, actually. First thing I did was image FreeDOS to the card. However, the recovery mode (holding the UP button during boot) seems to work fine though.

      So it looks like I've really got two options here to proceed: Dig up another very small CF card, and hope it flashes, or build a keyboard header, which I'd rather avoid, as I suck at hardware modding. You wouldn't happen to have the pin layout for the keyboard connector, would you?

      And thank you very much for your time.

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      • chpalmerC
        chpalmer
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        Is it certain that the x6500e have an Award Bios on them?

        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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          drashna
          last edited by

          Yes. Absolutely certain.

          I've attached a few images to show exactly what's going on.
          Sorry, the "Awa" part is cut out of the AwardBIOS text, but you can clearly make the leap, as well as see the logo, where it isn't cut off by the "Input Select" box from my monitor.

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          • chpalmerC
            chpalmer
            last edited by

            Look at the 2003 copyright date!

            Looks a little newer than 1995…

            Triggering snowflakes one by one..
            Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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              drashna
              last edited by

              Yes, and the BIOS version date is 2005…. And? According to the guide for flashing the BIOS for console redirection, that's what is expected, and wanted.

              And better point is why is AWDFLASH complaining about a non-award BIOS when it clearly is an Award BIOS...

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              • chpalmerC
                chpalmer
                last edited by

                @drashna:

                Yes, and the BIOS version date is 2005…. And? According to the guide for flashing the BIOS for console redirection, that's what is expected, and wanted.

                And better point is why is AWDFLASH complaining about a non-award BIOS when it clearly is an Award BIOS...

                Yep- and Im pointing out possible incompatibilities.  Hopefully you will be able to try a new CF card and see if thats the issue.

                As far as I know you are the first to try Steve's bios on this model. Watchguard people have been telling people I know and work with that they have the bios locked down in newer models. It would be good to know if this is just hype from sales people or true.

                Allot of the watchguard modding here is still experimental.

                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                  drashna
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                  Well, as I said, the BIOS ID information appears to be the correct model. Not sure.  And I don't have a spare CF card that isn't 4GBs.

                  And either way, the PCIe 4x slot works for an older VGA card I have, and i've ordered a ps2 to header cable, so when that arrives, I'll see about accessing the BIOS. I'd rather have direct access, even if it's completely inconvient. Once I get it booting pfSense, I shouldn't need to hook up the vga card again.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    You are not the first to try this. I have an X5500e here and others have also flashed X-peak-e models. They have an identical motherboard to the x-core-e models.

                    The newer models, xtm5 xtm8 etc, do have a locked BIOS in as far as you can't change any settings by default. However its not encrypted and doesn't prevent loading an alternative OS. It can be unlocked.

                    Steve

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                      drashna
                      last edited by

                      That's what I thought.

                      I'm just weird-ed out by the fact that it won't flash, and the errors it is giving.
                      But that's part of why I don't like messing with hardware.  Something weird always seems to hit me. And I'm sure if I was doing this for somebody else… it would have worked just fine... That's how my luck goes.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Ha, well you may be unlucky and this is certainly not a common error but I'm sure it can be overcome.  :)

                        Steve

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                          drashna
                          last edited by

                          Thanks, and thank you for your time.  :)

                          And as I said, I've ordered a ps2/keyboard header, and hopefully that will solve/work around the issue.

                          Either way, I'll post the results when I get the keyboard header.

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                          • ghostshellG
                            ghostshell
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                            weird i had no issues with a full hdd mod on my x5500e as expected and non on my x6500e as well, i just transfered HDD from on to another when using 2.0.3 and then when testing the 2.1 RC's and then running 2.1 REL

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                              drashna
                              last edited by

                              Well, I got the header… but as I said, I suck when it comes to anything hardware related. I was rewiring the header, when halfway through, I realized that I'd messed up... and don't remember which pins were which or should go were. And I lack a voltage meter to test this out....

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Pretty sure it's standard, same as the x-core box:
                                http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,20242.0.html

                                Steve

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                                  drashna
                                  last edited by

                                  Oh,  that I don't have an issue with. It's just that I don't know which wires go to which pins. And the actual ps2 connector is covered in hard plastic, so taking it apart would be a PITA.

                                  I hate to keep on asking for such "basic" help, but …. my dislike of hardware, my luck luck with it, and my lack of experience with it all kind of feed each other.
                                  But you wouldn't happen to know which of wire is which by color? (red, green, brown and yellow).

                                  And again, thanks for all of your help. It has definitely been appreciated.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ah. No idea I'm afraid. Could be standard though I suppose.

                                    Steve

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                                      drashna
                                      last edited by

                                      I had to literally tear apart the connector housing for the PS2 port, but as it was $5, and basically only being used for this, I didn't see an issue.

                                      But I got it working! Got into the BIOS, configured the CF card, and booted.

                                      stephenw10, thank you for all your help! It is definitely appreciated!

                                      And specifically the ps2 header I got was this one:
                                      http://www.pccables.com/06010.html

                                      And in case anyone else needs it,
                                      pin 1: green,
                                      pin 2: brown,
                                      pin 4: red,
                                      pin 8: yellow,

                                      At least, for the cable I got, that's what worked.

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