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      razzfazz
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      I don't have too much experience with USB devices on FreeBSD, but doesn't the fact that the ugen driver attached to your device imply that the axe driver either did not load or did not match it? Or do USB devices get a ugen entry even if a more specific driver matched?

      What do dmesg and the system log show in response to plugging in the device?

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        mcampbell
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        @razzfazz:

        I don't have too much experience with USB devices on FreeBSD, but doesn't the fact that the ugen driver attached to your device imply that the axe driver either did not load or did not match it? Or do USB devices get a ugen entry even if a more specific driver matched?

        It's my understanding that ugen4.2 is assigned to the device regardless as a USB hardware address, like da0s1 would be to a partition address.  ugen4 indicates what physical port it's plugged in (I've plugged into different ports and I get different ugenX numbers), and the .2 represents the device on that port (I'm presuming it's done that way to be able to identify daisy-chained devices).

        @razzfazz:

        What do dmesg and the system log show in response to plugging in the device?

        dmesg brings up the incredibly helpful one liner:```
        ugen4.2: <asix elec.="" corp.=""> at usbus4</asix>

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          razzfazz
          last edited by

          Still looks like axe never matched your device. There doesn't seem to be a module on my box; do we know for sure that this driver is compiled into the standard pfSense kernel?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            It is but it doesn't support that specific chip. I suggested looking in the FreeBSD forum for the product id. If an updated driver, in FreeBSD 9.* for example, does support it then it may be possible to backport it.

            Steve

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              The best thing is just go straight to the source:
              http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs?revision=255238&view=markup

              /* ASIX Electronics products */
               	product ASIX AX88172	0x1720	10/100 Ethernet
               	product ASIX AX88178	0x1780	AX88178
               	product ASIX AX88772	0x7720	AX88772
               	product ASIX AX88772A	0x772a	AX88772A USB 2.0 10/100 Ethernet
               	product ASIX AX88772B	0x772b	AX88772B USB 2.0 10/100 Ethernet
               	product ASIX AX88772B_1	0x7e2b	AX88772B USB 2.0 10/100 Ethernet
              

              No support for the AX88179 as of 2 weeks ago.  :(

              Perhaps that's not suprising. Net BSD only just got support for it.
              http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2013/09/14/msg047584.html
              OpenBSD not long before that.
              http://www.mail-archive.com/source-changes@openbsd.org/msg41366.html

              Significant work required to make that adapter work with pfSense. Sorry.

              Steve

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                mcampbell
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                @stephenw10:

                It is but it doesn't support that specific chip. I suggested looking in the FreeBSD forum for the product id.

                Ah, my bad, I somehow missed the word "FreeBSD", and thought you meant somewhere on this forum.

                @stephenw10:

                No support for the AX88179 as of 2 weeks ago.  :(

                Perhaps that's not suprising. Net BSD only just got support for it.
                http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2013/09/14/msg047584.html
                OpenBSD not long before that.
                http://www.mail-archive.com/source-changes@openbsd.org/msg41366.html

                Significant work required to make that adapter work with pfSense. Sorry.

                Steve

                Well, poo.  I guess I'll have to get another adapter, and make certain it has one of the chips in that list.

                Is FreeBSD usually the last of the *BSDs to support something?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Not necessarily but the similarities between the BSDs means that once one has it the other usually get it shortly afterwards. It really depends who is maintaining the driver for each distro and what hardware they have available to them or whether someone is sponsoring the work.

                  Steve

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                    mcampbell
                    last edited by

                    Just as an update (if anyone's interested), I went and got one of these at Fry's (after researching it to confirm it had one of the above listed chipsets), and it seems to be working well.  I still haven't finished the full configuration of all my devices on this new network, but it shows up in usbconfig (as an x772a chipset), it shows up in the Interfaces section, complete with a mac address, and the DHCP server is now set to serve up IPs on it.  I think that counts as a success. ;)

                    Unfortunately, at least according to usbconfig, it shows up as a lowly FULL speed (12Mbit) USB device.  But I think I'll manage with that for now, as my traffic to/from that network will largely be SSH.  As I get all my devices situated on it, I'll try some throughput tests to see what kind of bandwidth & reliability I get from it; not that I'm expecting a lot of either one, but just as a frame of reference for anyone interested.

                    I decided to keep my Rosewill USB 3 to Gigabit adapter.  I figure some time down the road, this chipset (& USB 3.0, for that matter) will be supported by FreeBSD, and eventually trickle down to pfSense.

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                      nothing
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                      At some point you will realize that this usb2ethernet thing is sh!t and will buy small manageable switch :)

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                        mcampbell
                        last edited by

                        @nothing:

                        At some point you will realize that this usb2ethernet thing is sh!t and will buy small manageable switch :)

                        I have no delusions about this being a particularly good setup, but hopefully by the time the inherent problems are too visible, I will have gotten my business development far enough along that it will have outgrown my home ;)  In the meantime, it is a "good enough" solution–the connection thus far has been solid, no drop offs, and it provides me a way to segregate my network just fine.  Not too shabby for $12.

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                          bryan.paradis
                          last edited by

                          https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/sys/dev/usb/net/if_axge.c?source=cc

                          Might be a good chance that it is in the v10 release now.

                          
                          Wed Nov 20 02:16:47 2013 
                          
                          1121	/* ASIX Electronics products */
                          1122	product ASIX AX88172		0x1720	10/100 Ethernet
                          1123	product ASIX AX88178		0x1780	AX88178
                          1124	product ASIX AX88178A		0x178a	AX88178A USB 2.0 10/100/1000 Ethernet
                          1125	product ASIX AX88179		0x1790	AX88179 USB 3.0 10/100/1000 Ethernet
                          1126	product ASIX AX88772		0x7720	AX88772
                          1127	product ASIX AX88772A		0x772a	AX88772A USB 2.0 10/100 Ethernet
                          1128	product ASIX AX88772B		0x772b	AX88772B USB 2.0 10/100 Ethernet
                          1129	product ASIX AX88772B_1	0x7e2b	AX88772B USB 2.0 10/100 Ethernet
                          
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                            bryan.paradis
                            last edited by

                            I loaded up a FreeBSD 8.3 VM and attempted building this from the FreeBSD git. I haven't tested it no adapter on hand. Will try to buy one later today if I can find one else will have to wait till next week. Just a note it looks like this driver will be showing up in FreeBSD 10.1

                            i386 Untested - Use at your own risk

                            if_axge.ko

                            To install

                            cd /boot/modules
                            fetch http://fs08n3.sendspace.com/dl/671abb5cf606ffcd0e4268438f52a664/52e3a3b15d8244b8/a7az2c/if_axge.ko
                            kldload if_axge.ko
                            

                            Then to check that its loaded

                            kldstat
                            
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                              mcampbell
                              last edited by

                              Sweet, so what version does that translate to for pfSense?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                FreeBSD 8.3 is the base for 2.1 and now 2.1.1.

                                Steve

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                                  mcampbell
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10:

                                  FreeBSD 8.3 is the base for 2.1 and now 2.1.1.

                                  Steve

                                  Actually, I was referring to FreeBSD 10.  I realize we haven't even made the leap to FreeBSD 9 yet, so we may still be talking years away(?), I was just curious if there was an expectation as to what future pfsense version that might line up with?

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                                    mcampbell
                                    last edited by

                                    In the meantime, I will definitely try out the driver you posted, Bryan.  And I'll report back the results of my testing.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Ah sorry. 2.2 will be built on FreeBSD 10. Some very early pre-alpha builds have come out of the build servers so wer're hopefully not talking years. Not ready for public consumption yet though.

                                      Steve

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                                        mcampbell
                                        last edited by

                                        Interesting, I would have thought that a leap from FreeBSD 8.3 to 10/10.1 would have warranted a major (not just a minor) version change on the pfsense side as well.  But that gives me hope, since now I know I don't have to wait two full versions away, but just one!

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                                          bryan.paradis
                                          last edited by

                                          @mcampbell:

                                          Interesting, I would have thought that a leap from FreeBSD 8.3 to 10/10.1 would have warranted a major (not just a minor) version change on the pfsense side as well.  But that gives me hope, since now I know I don't have to wait two full versions away, but just one!

                                          backporting drivers is fairly common. Note that the driver wont be in freebsd release until 10.1 not 10.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            @mcampbell:

                                            I would have thought that a leap from FreeBSD 8.3 to 10/10.1 would have warranted a major (not just a minor) version change

                                            Yes I see what you mean. However I would argue that the changes that went into 2.1 were much more extensive from a pfSense point of view than even though the base system only incremented from FreeBSD 8.1 to 8.3. The 2.2 release will not have many new features as I understand it, the devs are concentrating purely on bringing the base system up to FreeBSD 10 so from that point of view pfSense will not have changed dramatically. It's being built as 2.2 currently but who knows the devs might decide it warrants a major change and go straight to 3.0. Just have to wait and see.  ;)

                                            Steve

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