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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      What CPUs are you running? Is the cpu sensor touching the bottom 9f the CPU? I can't actually remember if it has a spring loaded sensor or not.  :-\

      Steve

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        Steve Evans
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        Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.13GHz

        I don't have PowerD enabled though. That could well explain it. I should probably enable that as I'm sure the CPU will "wake up" to a higher power state quite quickly on demand.

        The temperature diode is part of the CPU die, not an external sensor.

        Steve

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Ah, in which case the diode values can vary between CPU models so the real temperature may be different.
          I seem to remember reading that they are actually an offset from the CPU maximum temperature so you have allow for that. No idea if mbmon is doing that. I don't think it is because I just read out the register in WGXepc. If you read the docs for the superio chip there is quite a bit about configuring it for the correct sensor type.

          Steve

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            power_matz
            last edited by

            Hi,

            I am using an Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz with PowerD enabled.

            Matthias

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              Steve Evans
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              That explains it then. I'm being power mad again! :D

              An interesting comparison for anybody trying to build a lower power router then. I went for the more powerful option as I wanted to be future proofed should my broadband speed increase again, and also as I didn't know if I'd want to be using squid etc when I started.

              Steve

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                bmatic586
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                @Steve:

                This has been working reliably for some time, so having just updated to 2.1 and re-applied this fix I though I might as well post a complete set of files.

                Rename the attachment to lose the .png suffix and decompress. You'll find the following files. Copy them to the directory shown. Ensure that the sh files and WGXepc are executable.

                | Filename | Target Directory |
                | fanctrl.sh | /usr/local/etc/rc.d |
                | fanctrld.sh | /usr/local/sbin |
                | functions.inc.php | /usr/local/www/includes |
                | system_information.widget.php | /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets |
                | WGXepc | /usr/local/bin |

                Start the fan control thus, or simply reboot:

                # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fanctrl.sh
                

                You should hear the fans slow considerably. The daemon will try to maintain the set temperature of 64 degC. After some experimentation I found this to work well.

                Credit is due here to stephenw10 for the WGXepc utility. Note that he's produced a couple of versions, and you need this one as it reports temperature.

                The php scripts will read the CPU temperature and display it on the dashboard as the attached image.

                Steve

                For us n00bs… :) can you tell us how to copy these files to the pfSense file system? how do you change the permissions?

                I guess I'm kind of looking for a step by step on how to do this. I just recently got a 1250e and it works great, but I'd like to quiet it down a bit and change the red LED.

                Thanks.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  One way of doing it is explained here:
                  https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc
                  I've just noticed though that my Google site still has version 0.8 which doesn't read the temperature. I'll get that updated. (Edit: done)

                  You can also use SCP to move files onto the pfSense box. I use WinSCP for that.

                  Steve

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                    bmatic586
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10:

                    One way of doing it is explained here:
                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc
                    I've just noticed though that my Google site still has version 0.8 which doesn't read the temperature. I'll get that updated. (Edit: done)

                    You can also use SCP to move files onto the pfSense box. I use WinSCP for that.

                    Steve

                    Got it. I think it's working…  I can see the temperature now being displayed in the status screen.

                    When I run WGXepc -f it shows me a value of bb... is that the lowest it'll go?
                    Thanks again for your help.

                    My temperature shows 45 deg. C.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      BB is the lowest speed you can run the fans where the speed sensors work. The fans can run much slower though.  The value is a two digit hexidecimal number so anything between 00 and FF. I wouldn't go below, say, 16 though.
                      If you're using the script it should be going lower than bb anyway.

                      Steve

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                        bmatic586
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                        @stephenw10:

                        BB is the lowest speed you can run the fans where the speed sensors work. The fans can run much slower though.  The value is a two digit hexidecimal number so anything between 00 and FF. I wouldn't go below, say, 16 though.
                        If you're using the script it should be going lower than bb anyway.

                        Steve

                        when I ran

                        /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fanctrl.sh
                        

                        it didn't really slow down, and when I checked the fan speed by running WGXepc -f, it just said bb, so I manually set it to 20. Temp is not going above 50 C, but it would be nice to have it automatically control the fan instead of me manually configuring it.

                        Any other thoughts as to why it's not working?

                        Thanks again for your help.

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                        • chpalmerC
                          chpalmer
                          last edited by

                          Where did you get your files?

                          https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,66129.msg366219.html#msg366219

                          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                            bmatic586
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                            @chpalmer:

                            Where did you get your files?

                            https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,66129.msg366219.html#msg366219

                            yes… that's where I downloaded them from and put them in the directories as outlined below.

                            Filename                                         Target Directory
                            fanctrl.sh                                         /usr/local/etc/rc.d
                            fanctrld.sh                                   /usr/local/sbin
                            functions.inc.php                         /usr/local/www/includes
                            system_information.widget.php   /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets
                            WGXepc                                         /usr/local/bin

                            I also did a chmod 0755 on fanctrl.sh, fanctrld.sh and WGXepc and then executed```
                            /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fanctrl.sh

                            
                            Also, when I executed the above code, the LED that normally red, didn't turn green like it was supposed to as described in this thread.
                            
                            Thanks guys.
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                              bmatic586
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                              @bmatic586:

                              @chpalmer:

                              Where did you get your files?

                              https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,66129.msg366219.html#msg366219

                              yes… that's where I downloaded them from and put them in the directories as outlined below.

                              Filename                                         Target Directory
                              fanctrl.sh                                         /usr/local/etc/rc.d
                              fanctrld.sh                                   /usr/local/sbin
                              functions.inc.php                         /usr/local/www/includes
                              system_information.widget.php   /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets
                              WGXepc                                         /usr/local/bin

                              I also did a chmod 0755 on fanctrl.sh, fanctrld.sh and WGXepc and then executed```
                              /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fanctrl.sh

                              
                              Also, when I executed the above code, the LED that normally red, didn't turn green like it was supposed to as described in this thread.
                              
                              Thanks guys.
                              

                              Just an update… I rebooted the FW today and it's working the way it should now.

                              Thanks for all the help.

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                              • chpalmerC
                                chpalmer
                                last edited by

                                @bmatic586:

                                Just an update… I rebooted the FW today and it's working the way it should now.

                                Thanks for all the help.

                                I was coming here to mention that I had to reboot when I installed, according to my notes.  Glad you got it working!  :)

                                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                  power_matz
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                                  @Steve:

                                  Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.13GHz

                                  I don't have PowerD enabled though. That could well explain it. I should probably enable that as I'm sure the CPU will "wake up" to a higher power state quite quickly on demand.

                                  The temperature diode is part of the CPU die, not an external sensor.

                                  Steve

                                  Hi Steve,

                                  have you enabled PowerD?
                                  I got an Intel Pentium M with 2.13 GHz and I enabled PowerD. But the display shows max speed of 1592 Mhz.
                                  Do you think this is incorrect and the speed is 2.13?

                                  Matthias

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Well that's obviously wrong somewhere.  ;)
                                    Did you switch both sets of jumpers? It looks like it's running a 400MHz FSB and should be 533MHz.
                                    Which model Pentium-M exactly did you fit?
                                    The 2.13GHz models are all 533MHz FSB and as such are not hard coded into the est(4) driver. I've not seen powerd work correctly with any 533MHz pentium-m. Usually it just doesn't start because there is no freq controlling driver loaded, there would be something in the logs to that effect.

                                    Steve

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                                      power_matz
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                                      Hi Steve,

                                      I set one jumper array: two DIP switches changed like the picture shows. Is there's another DIP array?

                                      The speed is changing, so PowerD is doing something…

                                      Matthias

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        There are two sets of DIP switches, one set of two and another set of 4(?). The larger set are between the CPU and the PSU. Both must be switched.
                                        Interesting that powerd is working, perhaps it has mistaken the CPU for one that it knows about. Be interesting to find out what happens when you set the second DIP switches.

                                        Steve

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                                          power_matz
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                                          Hi,

                                          after changing the other jumpers accordingly everything runs like expected.  ;D

                                          Damn, I've done this to my X750e some time ago. I couldn't remember….  :-[

                                          Thanks a lot!

                                          Matthias

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                                            Steve Evans
                                            last edited by

                                            @bmatic586:

                                            @stephenw10:

                                            BB is the lowest speed you can run the fans where the speed sensors work. The fans can run much slower though.  The value is a two digit hexidecimal number so anything between 00 and FF. I wouldn't go below, say, 16 though.
                                            If you're using the script it should be going lower than bb anyway.

                                            Steve

                                            when I ran

                                            /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fanctrl.sh
                                            

                                            it didn't really slow down, and when I checked the fan speed by running WGXepc -f, it just said bb, so I manually set it to 20. Temp is not going above 50 C, but it would be nice to have it automatically control the fan instead of me manually configuring it.

                                            Any other thoughts as to why it's not working?

                                            Thanks again for your help.

                                            The fanctrl.sh script should be passed an argument of either start or stop. Unfortunately I omitted the start in my original instructions. I can no longer edit that post. To save further confusion could a moderator please amend my post, reply #34, to state:

                                            /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fanctrl.sh start
                                            

                                            Thanks,

                                            Steve

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